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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 19:47:34 GMT -5
In A Vision of Shadows, there was a golden-yellow she-cat with green eyes named Sleekwhisker. She was the daughter of Dawnpelt and Crowfrost, and the littermate of Strikestone and Juniperclaw. Dawnpelt of course was the daughter of Tawnypelt, who was the daughter of Tigerclaw, who was the son of Pinestar, who was the son of Oakstar, who was the son of, who cares? Tigerclaw ALSO had a mother named Leopardfoot, who was the daughter of Swiftbreeze and Adderfang, who were also the parents of Patchpelt, Redtail, Spottedleaf, and Willowpelt. Tawnypelt had a mother too, named Goldenflower, who was the daughter of Speckletail and Smallear, and the littermate of Lionheart, and the older sister of Snowkit. Speckletail also had parents, but this post is about Sleekwhisker, so back to her. Sleekwhisker first appeared as an apprentice, where she started mocking the leaders, along with Needlepaw and Beepaw. She then does an abhorrent action, and joins Darktail, who is this pernicious cat, who made it his goal in life, to wreak havoc on the clans. He is NOT Sol's son by the way. Sleekwhisker, and pretty much everyone else in ShadowClan decide to join Darktail and his non-blood family who he calls The Kin. Eventually, after witnessing and experiencing many unpropitious events at the paws of Darktail and his Kin, everyone decides that they want out, except Sleekwhisker. In fact, she was so loyal to Darktail, that she helped kill her own grandfather, Rowanstar, which was just inconceivable, that she could do that to her own family member. If Sleekwhisker were to want to re-join ShadowClan, what do you think would happen? Do you think they'd forgive her for her rancorous acts, and give her a second chance, or do you think they would tell her to go to the Dark Forest?
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Post by sorethroat on Apr 15, 2020 19:54:30 GMT -5
I don’t think ShadowClan would take her back at all after engaging in kidnapping and also killing their former leader and probably her own mother. Or at least I would hope not.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 19:55:33 GMT -5
I don’t think ShadowClan would take her back at all after engaging in kidnapping and also killing their former leader and probably her own mother. Or at least I would hope not. Me too, and I wouldn't put it past her to being involved in Dawnpelt's death, she's an atrocious cat. Sleekwhisker, not Dawnpelt.
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Post by barley on Apr 15, 2020 19:57:28 GMT -5
I think they'd personally tell her to **** off, but I'd do the same tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 19:58:46 GMT -5
I think they'd personally tell her to **** off, but I'd do the same tbh. Me too, but unfortunately, judging from some past events, I can see her being redeemed, and welcomed back with open arms...eh, forelegs?
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 15, 2020 20:06:25 GMT -5
Sleekwhisker had already been taken in when ShadowClan merged with SkyClan, and look how well that turned out. I can't see them welcoming her back so quickly after that. At the very least, she'd be put under constant supervision until she earns their trust if she ever decided to return.
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Post by Lightflame on Apr 15, 2020 20:08:27 GMT -5
I really hope that in book five, Sleekwhisker rejoins ShadowClan looking for redemption, only to reveal it was all an act, kill Tigerstar, and run away.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 20:12:37 GMT -5
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵Oh yeah, when she and Yarrowleaf came back, I forgot about that. I could see that happening, now if it was pre-Tigerstar 2 ShadowClan, I could see them maybe letting her back in pretty quickly, but Tigerstar has shown, that he does NOT trust outsiders, because of what happened with Darktail. LightflameThat's actually a really interesting storyline.
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Post by Fernstep on Apr 15, 2020 20:13:08 GMT -5
Hi my name is Golden Sleek'whisker Dementia Raven's GF and I have long golden yellow fur (that’s how I got my name) with sun-colored streaks and silver tips that reaches my mid-back and dazzling green eyes like grass in sunlight and a lot of people tell me I look like Dawnstar (AN: if u don’t know who she is get da hell out of here!). I’m not related to Darktail but I wish I was because he’s a major ****ing hottie. I’m a vampire cat but my claws are straight and white. I have pale yellow fur. I’m also part of the Kin, and I live in a warrior clan called ShadowClan in England [citation needed] where I’m a young warrior (I'm seventeen moons). I’m a goth (in case you couldn’t tell) and I wear mostly black. I love Hot Topic and I buy all my clothes from there. For example today I was wearing a black corset with matching lace around it and a black leather miniskirt, pink fishnets and black combat boots. I was wearing black lipstick, white foundation, black eyeliner and red eye shadow. I was walking outside ShadowClan. It was snowing and raining so there was no sun, which I was very happy about. A lot of ThunderClan cats stared at me. I put up my middle finger at them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 20:16:44 GMT -5
Hi my name is Golden Sleek'whisker Dementia Raven's GF and I have long golden yellow fur (that’s how I got my name) with sun-colored streaks and silver tips that reaches my mid-back and dazzling green eyes like grass in sunlight and a lot of people tell me I look like Dawnstar (AN: if u don’t know who she is get da hell out of here!). I’m not related to Darktail but I wish I was because he’s a major ****ing hottie. I’m a vampire cat but my claws are straight and white. I have pale yellow fur. I’m also part of the Kin, and I live in a warrior clan called ShadowClan in England [citation needed] where I’m a young warrior (I'm seventeen moons). I’m a goth (in case you couldn’t tell) and I wear mostly black. I love Hot Topic and I buy all my clothes from there. For example today I was wearing a black corset with matching lace around it and a black leather miniskirt, pink fishnets and black combat boots. I was wearing black lipstick, white foundation, black eyeliner and red eye shadow. I was walking outside ShadowClan. It was snowing and raining so there was no sun, which I was very happy about. A lot of ThunderClan cats stared at me. I put up my middle finger at them. LOL "Hey Sleek'whisker," shouted a voice. I looked up. It was....Raven! "What's up Raven?" I asked. "Nothing," she said shyly. But then, I heard my clanmates call me, and I had to go away.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Apr 15, 2020 21:02:17 GMT -5
I think ShadowClan wouldn't welcome her back.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 0:33:29 GMT -5
I have another question to add. What do you think would be the case, if Sleekwhisker had kits, and those kits wanted to join ShadowClan, or any clan in general?
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 16, 2020 0:53:07 GMT -5
I have another question to add. What do you think would be the case, if Sleekwhisker had kits, and those kits wanted to join ShadowClan, or any clan in general? The kits would probably be allowed to join, though assuming the Clans knew of their heritage, I can see cats getting suspicious of them until they prove themselves to not be like their mother.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 0:58:01 GMT -5
I have another question to add. What do you think would be the case, if Sleekwhisker had kits, and those kits wanted to join ShadowClan, or any clan in general? The kits would probably be allowed to join, though assuming the Clans knew of their heritage, I can see cats getting suspicious of them until they prove themselves to not be like their mother. So, it'd be kind of like Bramblestar and Tawnypelt proving that they're not like Tigerstar? Do you think Tawnypelt would be more sympathetic towards them for that reason, or less, since well everything Sleekwhisker has done?
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 16, 2020 1:04:03 GMT -5
The kits would probably be allowed to join, though assuming the Clans knew of their heritage, I can see cats getting suspicious of them until they prove themselves to not be like their mother. So, it'd be kind of like Bramblestar and Tawnypelt proving that they're not like Tigerstar? Do you think Tawnypelt would be more sympathetic towards them for that reason, or less, since well everything Sleekwhisker has done? Tawnypelt of all cats should know what it's like to be judged for the actions of their parents, so realistically, I can't imagine her rejecting them, especially when they would be her last connection to Dawnpelt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 1:11:31 GMT -5
So, it'd be kind of like Bramblestar and Tawnypelt proving that they're not like Tigerstar? Do you think Tawnypelt would be more sympathetic towards them for that reason, or less, since well everything Sleekwhisker has done? Tawnypelt of all cats should know what it's like to be judged for the actions of their parents, so realistically, I can't imagine her rejecting them, especially when they would be her last connection to Dawnpelt. Yeah, I can't see her doing that either, and that's true, unless you count Tigerheart, since he's her brother
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Post by ❄️Frøstflåmë🔥 on Apr 16, 2020 1:51:35 GMT -5
I think they wouldn't let her back after what she did to her mother and her clan. (I only read up to VoS: Shattered Sky
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 1:52:39 GMT -5
I think they wouldn't let her back after what she did to her mother and her clan. (I only read up to VoS: Shattered Sky Agreed. Do you like AVOS so far?
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Post by ❄️Frøstflåmë🔥 on Apr 16, 2020 2:15:21 GMT -5
Agreed. Do you like AVOS so far? Neutral. There were a few sad parts, like when Darktail took Riverclan prisoners and when Needletail died. (everyone who hasn't read AVOS don't look at this)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 2:15:57 GMT -5
Agreed. Do you like AVOS so far? Neutral. There were a few sad parts, like when Darktail took Riverclan prisoners and when Needletail died. (everyone who hasn't read AVOS don't look at this) The RiverClan part was terrible
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Apr 16, 2020 10:56:01 GMT -5
Considering how incredibly vile she is, and probably the vilest VoS character, I doubt she'd be welcomed back after everything she's done. She's a dangerous backstabbing individual who has no value in friendships or family and only cares about gain for herself. She was willing to lie, kidnap, betray, and murder even her loved ones and did it all just because she thought it was fun. If a character is fine will helping destroy her own clan just for kicks...I don't think it's a good idea for them to be forgiven.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 11:34:38 GMT -5
Considering how incredibly vile she is, and probably the vilest VoS character, I doubt she'd be welcomed back after everything she's done. She's a dangerous backstabbing individual who has no value in friendships or family and only cares about gain for herself. She was willing to lie, kidnap, betray, and murder even her loved ones and did it all just because she thought it was fun. If a character is fine will helping destroy her own clan just for kicks...I don't think it's a good idea for them to be forgiven. Neither do I. Damn, when you point out all the bad things she's done, wow... I'm honestly surprised at how little she's talked out when it comes to villains, not in the fandoms, but in the books. Though, it's understandable that they'd want to forget that part of their lives, including her. Also, I doubt she'd be a very compelling villain on her own, or even with a group of other cats, with her as the leader, because she always seemed like more of a follower than a leader.
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 16, 2020 17:28:48 GMT -5
No, no, triple no. I seriously doubt ShC would forgive her and welcome her back considering all the terrible things she's done and all the cats she helped kill. Also, I hope she doesn't have kits, because she would make a terrible mother and I'd feel extremely bad for those kits.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 17:38:42 GMT -5
No, no, triple no. I seriously doubt ShC would forgive her and welcome her back considering all the terrible things she's done and all the cats she helped kill. Also, I hope she doesn't have kits, because she would make a terrible mother and I'd feel extremely bad for those kits. Oh, yeah, you're right, I didn't think about the type of mother she'd be. She'd probably drop her kits off on Raven or one of the less tough members of the group (considering they didn't disband) and then never look after them again. Or, she could play the role of Smoke, and raise her kits to hate the clans, honestly though, I wouldn't blame anyone if they hated those self-righteous clans, like they're always pressing their way of life on everyone, and looking down on those who are different they're not as bad as The Sisters though.
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Post by Olivemoon on Apr 16, 2020 17:50:17 GMT -5
So, it'd be kind of like Bramblestar and Tawnypelt proving that they're not like Tigerstar? Do you think Tawnypelt would be more sympathetic towards them for that reason, or less, since well everything Sleekwhisker has done? Tawnypelt of all cats should know what it's like to be judged for the actions of their parents, so realistically, I can't imagine her rejecting them, especially when they would be her last connection to Dawnpelt. I would not put it past the authors to have one of her kits look just like Dawnpelt and then if they do have her want to join the clans but have no idea that is where she comes from.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 17:51:35 GMT -5
Tawnypelt of all cats should know what it's like to be judged for the actions of their parents, so realistically, I can't imagine her rejecting them, especially when they would be her last connection to Dawnpelt. I would not put it past the authors to have one of her kits look just like Dawnpelt and then if they do have her want to join the clans but have no idea that is where she comes from. That'd be really cute! Omg, imagine if she also had another kit who looked JUST like Rowanstar or Flametail
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Post by Olivemoon on Apr 16, 2020 17:59:07 GMT -5
I would not put it past the authors to have one of her kits look just like Dawnpelt and then if they do have her want to join the clans but have no idea that is where she comes from. That'd be really cute! Omg, imagine if she also had another kit who looked JUST like Rowanstar or Flametail Okay hear me out. All of her kits look like the cats that she killed and so she abandons them not wanting anything to do with her past. Then the kittens go looking for somewhere to live and end up finding the clans.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 18:05:06 GMT -5
That'd be really cute! Omg, imagine if she also had another kit who looked JUST like Rowanstar or Flametail Okay hear me out. All of her kits look like the cats that she killed and so she abandons them not wanting anything to do with her past. Then the kittens go looking for somewhere to live and end up finding the clans. That sounds like a fantastic idea! I wouldn't want Sleekwhisker to get redeemed or anything, but what if the story was told in 4 POVS, hers, kit 1's, kit 2's, and Tawnypelt's? Anyway, Sleekwhisker gets hit with a CRAP ton of guilt, and she starts reevaluating her actions or something like that, but in the end, she DOESN'T redeem herself, because not every villain deserves a redemption arc.
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Post by epicstyle on Apr 16, 2020 18:14:24 GMT -5
Mistystar would probably accept her into Riverclan with how backwards her logic has been for the past two story arcs lmao.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 18:15:44 GMT -5
Mistystar would probably accept her into Riverclan with how backwards her logic has been for the past two story arcs lmao. Omg, that is so true lol...well, Sleekwhisker does seem to really like water, or at least her lord and savior Darktail did
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