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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 25, 2016 1:39:09 GMT -5
Admittedly, the idea I'm going to try to propose was the backup plan I was formulating in case the RP group in a game I play would fall through (which it did). However, the group owner never asked for my idea afterwards, so I'd rather use it here.Basically... Warrior cats on a tropical island. I'm aware the flora would be drastically different, and I've already scrapped together a list of potential herbs and poisonous plants based off flora that's been introduced to Hawaii from other parts of the world. [see here: kl1p.com/k8QK ] I researched it using the internet, and as we all know, it may be utter bull (but the herbs in the main series have become more unrealistic as well, so...). As much as I prefer traditional naming style, it would be torture to slog through all the flora and fauna of Seychelles, Hawaii, the Caribbean, etc. and cherry pick the ones on this island, then determine which ones to be prefixes, etc etc. So, realistic lyrical (no Angelsoul, Rubyeye) would be okay, WITH consideration to the clan lore and the tropical island environment. Anolescale, Bananapaw, or Crabclaw would be okay; but Snowshine, Moonpaw, or Bearfang would not be, basically. Speaking of lore, I have a nebulous idea of the island history. It had native humans living there, and the occasional shipwreck bringing marooned seagoers and whatever else was on board at the time. A few "early generation" cats came on the island this way, and created the first clan on the island. Their stranded human counterparts died, but native humans were on the opposite side from the cats so they didn't really conflict. Then, sometimes further down the line around the age of exploration, humans who "newly discovered" the island tried to settle on it, brought quite a few invasive plants, but they soon perished, either from the elements or fights with the people that were there first. Then, unfortunately, the last of the humans on that island died due to foreign illness. The "latter generation" cats that came on this ship stayed behind in a village area and created a clan to be able to better survive. There may also be a native ocelot population farther inland, which a more tribe-going lifestyle. The ocelot tribe would be dependent on if people would want to be part of that group. I had the thought that the earlier clan could have come up with the idea of attempting to replicate tea or other brewing types of medicine drinks based off their experiences with humans. They'd need a river nearby, and some odd rock geography that would allow for cat-made pools in weirdly grooved or depression covered stone. Perhaps the clan or tribe name would reflect this unique practice. Of course, this would hinge on unrealistic, but, hey, the books have literal magic. Cats leaving clawed leaves or berries or flowers in water for a while and using drinking plant water as medicine is more believable than, "ohmigosh all the dead cats ghosts are having war on earth and these cats have superpowers for no reason". I still need more ideas for the other two cat civilizations- the cats in the village and any unique traditions or cultures, and help fleshing out the ocelot population if others decide it's a good idea and want it. After the setting based help, the typical layout and whatnot assistance would be welcome as well, though that part I could scrap it alone. Of course, as it's a multi-clan roleplay, other active users that want high ranks would be welcome to join in and help with brainstorming this thing together. |
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 26, 2016 23:59:06 GMT -5
bumps...
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❆αυяσяα
remember that scene from up with the old man? Yeah. Sad.
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Post by ❆αυяσяα on Aug 27, 2016 8:28:43 GMT -5
this looks like a good idea!
a tropic warrior cats roleplay! genius! i am afraid that because of schoolwork so on so on i'm not certain (i might..) i would be able to have a clan, i would still LOVE to help
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 27, 2016 12:17:21 GMT -5
Just helping with creation is enough for me! As of now, I'm debating clan names, and whether or not to keep the idea of an ocelot tribe.
So far, I've come up with Poolclan or Streamclan for the older clan due to their unique method of making medicine water. I'm open to other suggestions as well...
For the newer clan in the village, I'm thinking something more based around nearby geography. The village would be on a hill or hillside, with some freshwater nearby (sorta needed to sustain civilization). I've been mulling over whether or not there could be sugarcane or kinds of notable plants by that river. If there were to be, would that be a big enough detail/feature to be a clan name...?
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 27, 2016 21:05:10 GMT -5
Here's a bump, if anyone else is interested!
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Post by ｒｏｓｅ on Aug 28, 2016 9:47:37 GMT -5
I can help you!
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 28, 2016 9:55:20 GMT -5
That would be much appreciated, Rose! ^^
I'm still not decided on clan names, as I've been debating if the island should be one built off coral or volcanic, eheh (I ended up choosing the latter)
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 28, 2016 14:18:13 GMT -5
OK, so far with what I have, the island is a volcanic type. Think Hawaii. The majority of the landmass is from a volcano that has become dormant, while there is another, small volcano that is fairly active. They would have hawaiian-type eruptions, with slow lava rivers flowing from volcanic vents on the sides of the volcano. I'd imagine the area where lava flows could be called Deadrock, as it's black like rot (volcanic rock) and would be devoid of life in the case of the smaller, active volcano's vents and ridges. The small volcano could be known perhaps as the Smokerock, since plumes of ash could come from its crater (if it were to have one) or in smaller amounts from its vents.
The island has sandy coasts (except in the case of lava flows that go down ridges that reach down to the ocean). These coasts have tidepools of interesting and colorful marine life, including sea stars, urchin, gastropods, shrimp, algae, bivalves, and perhaps even certain fish and corals in deeper pools. There could perhaps be some coral reefage offshore, but if pieces broke off and washed ashore, they would be white as the colorful bacteria in the coral would be dead.
There would be one rockier beach, with oddly shaped boulders covering a sandier coast. No cat or man knows how it got there. Despite the fact it's practically tropical stonehenge, a clan of cats consider the weird crags and the inland near it their home. This clan is made up of castaway cats that came upon the island from shipwrecks. A few stumbled upon this coast and used the depressions and wide pits in the rock to store water. These cats now use these holes to make "medicine water", a skill that they claim a former pampered kittypet used to cure other mouser shipcats with plants that were once thought as poison. Apparently that kittypet became the first leader of the clan, and his daughter became the first medicine cat after the leader passed his knowledge onto her.
Due to the importance of the rocky coast to this clan, they call themselves Cragclan after them.
Then, further inland is a verdant paradise. There are a few salt-tolerant plants on or near the coast. Further in are grassier patches, and past that forests begin. On hillier areas the forest may break into grass or meadow. There are rivers that flow through the island, and by them there are humid areas full of thickets. In places where volcanic ash lands away from Deadrock, thick forests thrive off the ashes. These thick forests become even more lively with nearby rivers. There are two small lakes that the cats give importance to, the bigger of which is closer to Cragclan and holds special importance as the source of water used for their unique medicine.
The smaller lake is closer to the thick forest, and is the meeting place for island cats. Cragclan comes to the lake every moon to share news with a tribe of golden cats that share the island with them. These golden cats are Leopard Cats— no, not the panther-kind. These Leopard Cats are the wild cat that, when bred to domesticated cats, will make Bengal breed kits. These wild felines apparently arrived by ship some time ago, but too far back in time for any cat to remember more than that in their stories.
That's how far I got. Help with a good tribe name would be vital while I come up with more regarding the other clan
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 28, 2016 15:06:45 GMT -5
Bump...?
It the idea doesn't appeal to anyone, it would at least be a help for me to know why, in specifics.
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 28, 2016 16:32:57 GMT -5
Bump. High ranks are open, BTW.
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 28, 2016 21:03:26 GMT -5
Bump. High ranks are open, BTW. [beatboxes] hey, hey i need help or at the very least someone to ask for opinions about what im planning and also high rank people help |
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Post by Paw Prince ♛ on Aug 28, 2016 22:05:23 GMT -5
Hello! Hope you don't mind if I offer some (hopefully constructive) input. 
A clan (or clans, in this case) set on a volcanic island sounds like a really intriguing idea to me! I especially like how one of the volcanoes is still active, adding some potential for plot-related ~drama~ through natural disasters, false alarms, and so on. Kudos for making such a detailed herb list as well! :'O
Some thoughts/questions regarding what you've come up with so far (because I can't think of any tribe name suggestions atm rip sorry): - How often does Smokerock erupt? Does CragClan have someone constantly stationed to watch for eruptions and/or periodically check on the volcano's status? Do they have certain protocols established for evacuating/responding to an eruption, or does the location of Smokerock in relation to their campsite and/or nature of the eruptions (Hawaiian-esque slow lava rivers) mean that the lava flow never actually reaches where they live?
- Do CragClan cats see the Leopard Cats as being a species that is inferior to, equal to, or superior to themselves? How do the Leopard Cats see domestic cats in relation to themselves?
- Given that you mention that humans breed Leopard Cats with domestic cats to produce Bengal offspring, have there been any hybrid kittens born on the island? :0 If so, how common are these unions?
- Were the languages of the cats and the Leopard Cats always mutually intelligible, or have CragClan and the tribe gradually developed a common tongue/picked up one or both of each other's original languages over time? What if the tribe spoke using antiquated English (thou/thee/thine, etc.) or some other distinguishable accent/vocal quirk/speaking style? X'D
- Which of the relationships between CragClan, the tribe, and the village-based clan are hostile, neutral, or friendly?
- How exactly is the "medicine water" made? Is it just herbal juices and such added to water that's at a normal temperature, or are the herbs actually steeped in boiling water? If it's the latter, maybe there could be some natural hot springs on the island. :'o Or is it something other than those two options? (Sorry if this seems unnecessarily nit-picky over such a small thing. I've seen lots of herbal remedies involving teas while researching medicinal herbs for my own RPs, so I definitely think it's a cool idea and am curious about the specifics. nwn)
The other idea I had is that maybe the waters surrounding the island are particularly turbulent and/or have whirlpools, which contributes to the number of shipwrecks that occur on its shores. Earlier on, the area was relatively little-known, so ships weren't as cautious as they should've been when they passed by, but as more and more ships passing through the area were never heard from again, a warning on the mainland spread that these were dangerous waters that ships should do their best to avoid, causing shipwrecks (and accordingly, the arrival/presence of humans) to be much more infrequent nowadays. I don't know whether it fits with what you had in mind, but I figured I might as well write it down before I forgot about it. ^0^
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 29, 2016 11:52:01 GMT -5
Hello! Hope you don't mind if I offer some (hopefully constructive) input.
A clan (or clans, in this case) set on a volcanic island sounds like a really intriguing idea to me! I especially like how one of the volcanoes is still active, adding some potential for plot-related ~drama~ through natural disasters, false alarms, and so on. Kudos for making such a detailed herb list as well! :'O
Some thoughts/questions regarding what you've come up with so far (because I can't think of any tribe name suggestions atm rip sorry): - How often does Smokerock erupt? Does CragClan have someone constantly stationed to watch for eruptions and/or periodically check on the volcano's status? Do they have certain protocols established for evacuating/responding to an eruption, or does the location of Smokerock in relation to their campsite and/or nature of the eruptions (Hawaiian-esque slow lava rivers) mean that the lava flow never actually reaches where they live?
- Do CragClan cats see the Leopard Cats as being a species that is inferior to, equal to, or superior to themselves? How do the Leopard Cats see domestic cats in relation to themselves?
- Given that you mention that humans breed Leopard Cats with domestic cats to produce Bengal offspring, have there been any hybrid kittens born on the island? :0 If so, how common are these unions?
- Were the languages of the cats and the Leopard Cats always mutually intelligible, or have CragClan and the tribe gradually developed a common tongue/picked up one or both of each other's original languages over time? What if the tribe spoke using antiquated English (thou/thee/thine, etc.) or some other distinguishable accent/vocal quirk/speaking style? X'D
- Which of the relationships between CragClan, the tribe, and the village-based clan are hostile, neutral, or friendly?
- How exactly is the "medicine water" made? Is it just herbal juices and such added to water that's at a normal temperature, or are the herbs actually steeped in boiling water? If it's the latter, maybe there could be some natural hot springs on the island. :'o Or is it something other than those two options? (Sorry if this seems unnecessarily nit-picky over such a small thing. I've seen lots of herbal remedies involving teas while researching medicinal herbs for my own RPs, so I definitely think it's a cool idea and am curious about the specifics. nwn)
The other idea I had is that maybe the waters surrounding the island are particularly turbulent and/or have whirlpools, which contributes to the number of shipwrecks that occur on its shores. Earlier on, the area was relatively little-known, so ships weren't as cautious as they should've been when they passed by, but as more and more ships passing through the area were never heard from again, a warning on the mainland spread that these were dangerous waters that ships should do their best to avoid, causing shipwrecks (and accordingly, the arrival/presence of humans) to be much more infrequent nowadays. I don't know whether it fits with what you had in mind, but I figured I might as well write it down before I forgot about it. ^0^
Thanks for the input! Also thanks about the herb list- I spent a few summer nights on it, researching hawaiian introduced and native flora to get a feel for what's possible to be there, then another night formatting to list and double checking herbs. ^^ As to answer your vital questions- 1. Cragclan's location is far enough from Smokerock that they don't have to worry about eruptions. They do, however, know that Smokerock dangerous, since they can see the ash plumes and put together that smoke=fire, and they're part-right about that. The village based clan is closest to the Deadrock area, and they're the ones that know that the Smokerock makes lava since they once scouted around Deadrock out of curiosity. If anything, the village clan is in more immediate danger if an eruption would create lava flows that go past Deadrock. The tribe is cautious enough to stay off Deadrock (and therefore away from Smokerock) due to the same reasons that Cragclan stays away, and also due to old superstitious about the place. The tribe would be in potential danger in the case of eruptions that spread farther than Deadrock, but they have more of a land buffer than the village. A wildfire started by foliage ignited by lava would probably be the more likely to do the tribe in, seeing as they have lots of trees to fuel the flames, and fires can spread faster than lava rivers flow. The Smokerock erupts fairly often for volcano standards, with the major eruption events that keep the Deadrock clear of life being around annually at the very least. 2. & 5.- Cragclan, for the most part, sees the Leopard Cats as equals but different. There's a healthy level of respect from them, seeing as most of their clan was made of cats that were hunters (the mousers on ships) and fighters (strays that came on board unwelcome), and the tribe has a lot of hunters and fighters. There's a sort of respect between the groups of fellow survivors. The different customs and traditions do put off some clan cats, and as much respect as there is, a lot of cats do view them as a different kind of cat. And there's also the occasional cat that is overly leery of the tribe and sees them as lesser, though that isn't the majority. Cragclan views the village clan as equals, though they have a hard time trying to consider them allies when the village clan has animosity towards the tribe. The tribe is on good terms with Cragclan, and views them as equal. They were at first cautious of the clan, but warmed up to them over time as Cragclan proved to be mostly god towards them. On the other hand, the tribe views the village clan as equal, though they don't exactly welcome them with open arms and hugs and kisses all around. There's respect with a bit of caution, seeing as there's never been another surviving group of cats on the island prior to Cragclan, and now you have this band of snappy and frankly conceited fellows. The village clan is more isolated, with higher priority on self preservation since they're new to this surviving game and have prey on their mind more than sharing stories with different cats. They see Cragclan as equals, though they can't understand why they would associate with the Leopard Cat tribe. They view the tribe as lesser and treat them with a mix of annoyance, caution, hostility and animosity- there'd be more prey to go around without them, they're convoluted and difficult to understand, they're overly defensive (a bit of hypocrisy), and they're weird. I'd imagine the village clan would be more specieist and exclusive. 3.- Though Cragclan tends to avoid mention of it due to their shaky relationship with the village clan, there was once a litter of Bengal cats born to one of the Cragclan queens in the past. They would be more open to it if a Leopard Cat was a warrior, but there aren't any as of late, and most clan cats tend to pick cats of their clans as mates due to loyalty to the clan and all. Doesn't mean there aren't forbidden romances, though. The village clan would probably strictly forbid it, if they even thought a litter from that union was possible. I could see a queen kitting Bengals getting exiled for the act, or an especially harsh or cruel leader (Tatteredstar, Tigerstar) throwing the kits out for snakes or shorebirds and punishing the queen. It would make for a lot of drama. Overall, Bengal litters are rare, due to customs and attitudes. 4. I'd imagine the tribe's language was antiquated, but not impossible to pick up on, by the time Cragclan was founded. They would be able to communicate with clan cats, though there would be difficulties- accents, different words and terms, whole phrases in another language. They would definitely have a different sound to the way they spoke compared to clan cats, so there would be an accent (perhaps asian, though I'm not sure what country to pin it on) (I wouldn't require RPers to type it out though). Cragclan has probably picked up a few phrases and terms from the tribe, though they would probably be used most commonly in clan-tribe interactions rather than everyday casual use. A younger cat that's been with the tribe for some time or at least frequently been to the meetings may even pick up a few hints of the accent. The tribe also managed to update their language and knowledge of people from clan influence. They would probably put to use some insults from the clan that normally are inapplicable to tropical life (fox-heart, fox dung), for example, or perhaps share tongues during casual occasions. (Of course, their culture and structure is still distinctly not-clan, which is enough for the village clan to see them as outsiders) 6.- I actually was going for the former, as I didn't think of hot springs at first. I mean, it makes a whole lot more sense, and perhaps there could be hot springs by the rocky coast, or even on it, seeing as there is active volcanic activity. That would... Actually make a lot more sense! Thanks for giving me the idea! cx Of course, just leaving things out has its place (mountain apple vinegar, the hibiscus thing), and the holes in the crag boulders would still be good for holding freshwater or honey, or drying leaves since they'd be in direct sun on hot rock. Also, I was thinking it would be coral reefs that wrecked the ships, but whirlpools are also good! Perhaps a mix of both? Also, answering these questions gave me more ideas/things to note. I know that the canon clans are each associated with a certain attitude, and I'd imagine Cragclan being more friendly, to the point they're in between a rock and a hard place when it comes to their relations with the village clan and the tribe. They want more allies, but the village clan antagonises the tribe, and they're already on good terms with the tribe and don't want to ruin it, BUT they don't want to make enemies with the village clan either. The village clan would be associated with a standoffish, aggressive nature, seeing as, well, their attitude towards the tribe, and even a distrust and bad view towards Cragclan that becomes ever more present the longer they associate with the tribe. The tribe would be the one that may appear as defensive and honorable. Not only because the village clan is aggressive, but also because of their ties to Cragclan. I could see them holding honor highly, and they could very well be indebted to Cragclan- perhaps they gave aid to the tribe during hardship or disease outbreaks? And due to the tribe's emphasis on honor, they are ready to give back to Cragclan in return. Also with the honor, I'd imagine they try not to stoop to the village clan's level. I mean, a war between the two (drama/plot) that may split loyalties in Cragclan is possible, but not immediately imminent as the RP opens. How's that sound? (If it seems scattered, I blame classes. Also if it's formatted oddly I blame mobile pro boards) |
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 29, 2016 18:13:53 GMT -5
Bump?
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Post by Paw Prince ♛ on Aug 29, 2016 20:24:17 GMT -5
1. Cragclan's location is far enough from Smokerock that they don't have to worry about eruptions. They do, however, know that Smokerock dangerous, since they can see the ash plumes and put together that smoke=fire, and they're part-right about that. The village based clan is closest to the Deadrock area, and they're the ones that know that the Smokerock makes lava since they once scouted around Deadrock out of curiosity. If anything, the village clan is in more immediate danger if an eruption would create lava flows that go past Deadrock. The tribe is cautious enough to stay off Deadrock (and therefore away from Smokerock) due to the same reasons that Cragclan stays away, and also due to old superstitious about the place. The tribe would be in potential danger in the case of eruptions that spread farther than Deadrock, but they have more of a land buffer than the village. A wildfire started by foliage ignited by lava would probably be the more likely to do the tribe in, seeing as they have lots of trees to fuel the flames, and fires can spread faster than lava rivers flow. The Smokerock erupts fairly often for volcano standards, with the major eruption events that keep the Deadrock clear of life being around annually at the very least. First of all, thanks for taking the time to answer all my questions, and so thoroughly, too! I probably would've been scared away by my long-windedness had I been in your shoes, haha.
Question 1: Oh, I didn't even think about how stray lava might lead to forest fires! Those would be /really/ devastating, yeah. I think it's cool that it's the village cats (as opposed to the more well-established, seasoned Cragclan) who are more knowledgeable about volcanoes; it kind of gives them an edge over the others and makes up for their relative inexperience & newness to the island. Maybe the village cats' curiosity and/or investigation of the unknown extends beyond this one instance & is in fact a significant part of their overall clan character, or maybe it's been gradually replaced by their current isolationism for some reason.
Question 2: Yeah, accents can definitely be tedious to write out (not to mention when you've got to read them!). To be honest, the main reason I asked was because I thought it'd be entertaining to roleplay a character who talks in Shakespearean English. c'x
It sounds reasonable that Cragclan would inevitably acquire some terms/phrases through their interactions with the tribe. The idea that young cats can even pick up some of the accent is a neat detail, too! I imagine that village cats might look down on any kind of code-switching and/or might want to keep their language "pure" or "untainted" from the Leopard Cats' influence should the village cats ever happen to hear Cragclan using jargon otherwise unique to the tribe, but then again, I might be overestimating the village cats' degree of speciesism. :'O
Question 6: Yay, I'm glad I could be helpful! :') I agree that the depressions and pits in the rock would still be very useful to the cats because they can be used for so many purposes. With those /and/ the hot springs, the clan's medicine cats will be well-equipped indeed!
Either or both coral reefs or whirlpools sound(s) good to me! Maybe the coral reefs are to one side of the island and the whirlpools are on the other, or the whirlpools are further out and the coral reefs are closer to shore (since corals require shallow, sunlit water to flourish). I don't imagine the cats will ever swim out far enough to sea to see any whirlpools for themselves, though it would be cool if they could get at least a glimpse of some nearby coral reefs from the beach, just because coral reefs are so cool-looking. nwn
Ooh, the idea that it's the tribe that is indebted to Cragclan (instead of the other way around) is interesting! Maybe this cycle of giving-and-taking would constitute a significant part of their relationship with one another, and they're always willing to help each other out because they have a history of unfailingly repaying one another for their help, whereas the village clan might be much more wary to extend or accept help because they don't have as much concrete proof of Cragclan's trustworthiness & likeliness to "pay them back" in full, or they're suspicious of whether/why Cragclan would ever truly offer to help them without expecting something substantial in return.
Also, the idea of Cragclan providing aid in a time of disease made me wonder - How sophisticated (if at all) is the tribe's medical knowledge? If the tribe also uses medicinal herbs, were they the ones to teach Cragclan the herbs' usages, or was it the other way around?
Just in general - I know I might seem to gush a lot, but I really do like the proposed dynamics between the three groups, as well as each one's individual attitude/character! I can see why the village cats' survival-centric attitude has led them to see the tribe as competitors and contributed to their speciesism, but at the same time their snobbiness is also very amusing to me (in a good way, of course), like when you said "...if they even thought a litter from that union was possible". X'D
I also like that the groups' relationships with one another have complex underpinnings that underlie them rather than these relationships simply being baseless and superficial, as in "I don't like these cats because I said so".
Again, there's a lot to keep the plot interesting, from natural disasters to forbidden love (both cross-clan and cross-species) to cross-clan politics, so I doubt the roleplay will ever suffer from an utter lack of drama! Maybe the tribe is willing to leave the decision of whether Cragclan should ally with the village clan up to them/is willing to wait patiently for Cragclan to decide, but the village clan is putting increasing pressure on Cragclan to hurry up and choose one side & one side only. In any case, poor Cragclan, haha.
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 29, 2016 21:41:47 GMT -5
1. Cragclan's location is far enough from Smokerock that they don't have to worry about eruptions. They do, however, know that Smokerock dangerous, since they can see the ash plumes and put together that smoke=fire, and they're part-right about that. The village based clan is closest to the Deadrock area, and they're the ones that know that the Smokerock makes lava since they once scouted around Deadrock out of curiosity. If anything, the village clan is in more immediate danger if an eruption would create lava flows that go past Deadrock. The tribe is cautious enough to stay off Deadrock (and therefore away from Smokerock) due to the same reasons that Cragclan stays away, and also due to old superstitious about the place. The tribe would be in potential danger in the case of eruptions that spread farther than Deadrock, but they have more of a land buffer than the village. A wildfire started by foliage ignited by lava would probably be the more likely to do the tribe in, seeing as they have lots of trees to fuel the flames, and fires can spread faster than lava rivers flow. The Smokerock erupts fairly often for volcano standards, with the major eruption events that keep the Deadrock clear of life being around annually at the very least. First of all, thanks for taking the time to answer all my questions, and so thoroughly, too! I probably would've been scared away by my long-windedness had I been in your shoes, haha.
Question 1: Oh, I didn't even think about how stray lava might lead to forest fires! Those would be /really/ devastating, yeah. I think it's cool that it's the village cats (as opposed to the more well-established, seasoned Cragclan) who are more knowledgeable about volcanoes; it kind of gives them an edge over the others and makes up for their relative inexperience & newness to the island. Maybe the village cats' curiosity and/or investigation of the unknown extends beyond this one instance & is in fact a significant part of their overall clan character, or maybe it's been gradually replaced by their current isolationism for some reason.
Question 2: Yeah, accents can definitely be tedious to write out (not to mention when you've got to read them!). To be honest, the main reason I asked was because I thought it'd be entertaining to roleplay a character who talks in Shakespearean English. c'x
It sounds reasonable that Cragclan would inevitably acquire some terms/phrases through their interactions with the tribe. The idea that young cats can even pick up some of the accent is a neat detail, too! I imagine that village cats might look down on any kind of code-switching and/or might want to keep their language "pure" or "untainted" from the Leopard Cats' influence should the village cats ever happen to hear Cragclan using jargon otherwise unique to the tribe, but then again, I might be overestimating the village cats' degree of speciesism. :'O
Question 6: Yay, I'm glad I could be helpful! :') I agree that the depressions and pits in the rock would still be very useful to the cats because they can be used for so many purposes. With those /and/ the hot springs, the clan's medicine cats will be well-equipped indeed!
Either or both coral reefs or whirlpools sound(s) good to me! Maybe the coral reefs are to one side of the island and the whirlpools are on the other, or the whirlpools are further out and the coral reefs are closer to shore (since corals require shallow, sunlit water to flourish). I don't imagine the cats will ever swim out far enough to sea to see any whirlpools for themselves, though it would be cool if they could get at least a glimpse of some nearby coral reefs from the beach, just because coral reefs are so cool-looking. nwn
Ooh, the idea that it's the tribe that is indebted to Cragclan (instead of the other way around) is interesting! Maybe this cycle of giving-and-taking would constitute a significant part of their relationship with one another, and they're always willing to help each other out because they have a history of unfailingly repaying one another for their help, whereas the village clan might be much more wary to extend or accept help because they don't have as much concrete proof of Cragclan's trustworthiness & likeliness to "pay them back" in full, or they're suspicious of whether/why Cragclan would ever truly offer to help them without expecting something substantial in return.
Also, the idea of Cragclan providing aid in a time of disease made me wonder - How sophisticated (if at all) is the tribe's medical knowledge? If the tribe also uses medicinal herbs, were they the ones to teach Cragclan the herbs' usages, or was it the other way around?
Just in general - I know I might seem to gush a lot, but I really do like the proposed dynamics between the three groups, as well as each one's individual attitude/character! I can see why the village cats' survival-centric attitude has led them to see the tribe as competitors and contributed to their speciesism, but at the same time their snobbiness is also very amusing to me (in a good way, of course), like when you said "...if they even thought a litter from that union was possible". I like that the groups' relationships with one another have complex underpinnings that underlie them rather than these relationships simply being baseless and superficial, as in "I don't like these cats because I said so".
Again, there's a lot to keep the plot interesting, from natural disasters to forbidden love (both cross-clan and cross-species) to cross-clan politics, so I doubt the roleplay will ever suffer from an utter lack of drama! Maybe the tribe is willing to leave the decision of whether Cragclan should ally with the village clan up to them/is willing to wait patiently for Cragclan to decide, but the village clan is putting increasing pressure on Cragclan to hurry up and choose one side & one side only. In any case, poor Cragclan, haha.
I've rambled on enough for now, so I think I'll end this post here. ^0^ Hehe, though I have difficulty churning out long RP posts, I guess I don't mind reading ramblings or dishing out a big in-depth mass of my own! ^^; I guess I'll address my thoughts in order with you bringing up your own, as to streamline things a bit~ In regards to the village clan (Hillclan? I imagined human settlements being on higher ground, by rivers perhaps, so it could be Streamclan too... Still can't decide) and being curious- I'd imagine the first cats of their clan were rather intrigued by the new wildlife, and did their best to try and find out more of the place by going where no cat wanders in pursuit of knowledge. Of course, this may have simply been an act of assessing what resources were available for the taking and the curiosity didn't fit clan character, which would admittedly be a good fit to their survival, me-first nature. Since they needed to know what dangers and risks and rewards there were in the new environment, they probably had exploration parties that wandered the island and reported their findings to the leader so they could assess their game-plan. A few of them spotted lava during a volcanic eruption, a few found snakes, others found weird flashy lizards... I'd imagine that due to that, they posses more encyclopedic type of knowledge of the island-- these plants grow here and when Foxfoot bit it, his mouth bled, so it's dangerous and shouldn't be eaten; the Smokerock makes rivers of fire that run down the Deadrock, we should keep a watch on that since it's been getting closer to the edge a few moons ago; there's a bunch of weird cats that won't let us into the deep forest where the good prey is, how dare they, what pests-- that kind of thing. They have tabs on a lot of stuff, and they use that knowledge to their advantage to try and get a footing on the island, and (they hope) out-compete the other suspicious, meddlesome cats. Also, village clan speciesism is actually fairly bad. I mean, if they soften up and get goody-goody with these outsiders, then they're leaving themselves open for betrayal or backstabbing. The leader probably considers Cragclan to be rather lucky that they're considered a possible ally, and i could imagine the village clan leader being cold, harsh, and antagonistic to the Cragclan leader if the clan chose to side with the tribe. I'm serious about the whole Bengals being exiled or even executed-- to them, it's disgusting. Think Homeworld and fusion if you watch Steven Universe. To the coral reef/whirlpools, I do like the idea of coral reefs on one shore, whirlpools on another. Mostly because that would allow a ship to get close enough that a cat could swim for their life to shore and survive the ordeal. If there were two layers of crashing, devastating things, the ships would sink farther away, and it would be much more unlikely that a cat could survive, if any would at all. (Also, if you enjoy cats looking at coral-- certain corals do grow in tide pools!) As for the medical knowledge- I'd imagine the tribe has some herb lore, which was then passed on to Cragclan cats when the tribe leader took mercy on ill clan cats and helped ease their recovery with herbs. I'd imagine that knowledge circulated through Cragclan that the plants weren't all poison, and then some brilliant cat found out how to steep them, and lo and behold, "medicine water". The tribe did know a good collection of safe herbs that Cragclan worked off of, but with the new medicine method, they have come up with new recipes, and unlike the tribe they tend to think of doses of medicine. The tribe is, frankly, more or less grabbing a random pawful of dry leaves and saying eat them, without too much thought into if it's too much, or if giving another dose if this one was too little would cause side effects. (Cragclan probably is helping them get better with that, though.) Speaking of herb knowledge, I could imagine the village clan being the ones that discovered most the poison plants on the list while scouting and experimenting. Bless the poor kitty souls that ate castor beans and rosary peas out of curiosity. Also, you hit it spot on with the village clan's relations when it comes to accepting help! They are rather distrusting of the other cats and their motives, and added with their snobby attitude, they are really pretentious and bigoted. That, combined with distrust, may even make for more pigheaded and outspoken cats that refuse help from the others adamantly. I'd imagine a group of dissenting cats pouting by the elder's den complaining about their leader extending an offer of alliance to Cragclan-- "Why bother with those tribe-loving mongrels? They'll probably try to undermine us you know, our leader should be smarter than that!" My reply-ramblings aside... I have a proposal for you. If I were to get the RP up and moving, would you like a leadership position? I'll admit I'm not much of a leader-type of person, more inclined to medcat duty, which i'd take up if i found enough potential leaders... BUt I'll do it if I gotta! I know I'd need all the help I could get, seeing as it's multiclan with unique lore and setting, and you seem more than suited for the job. ^^ |
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Post by Paw Prince ♛ on Aug 31, 2016 16:04:47 GMT -5
I can emphasize; long RP posts usually take me hours to write – though I'm a very slow typer regardless, haha. Hmm, maybe you should go with Hillclan, because then the name could be ~ironically~ symbolic of how the village clan looks down on others not only geographically but also ideologically, à la John Winthrop's "City upon a Hill". c'x In addition, I feel that a hill could more feasibly be a landmark that is 100% exclusive to the village clan, whereas streams might be distributed throughout more of the island's territory. I like the idea that the village cats are knowledgeable, but they still channel that knowledge primarily into aiding their ultimate objective, survival, rather than simply being curious for curiosity's sake. Yeah, I understood that the village cats' speciesism was pretty bad from your first post, and I definitely wasn't trying to downplay it. Calling it "amusing" (not to mention the X'D emoticon... OTL) was most likely not the best choice of words. Just to clarify, the village cats' extremism seems rather absurd to me, in the same way that I'm utterly incredulous and don't understand why anyone would ever feel such irrational intense hatred for certain groups of people in real life. But I'll get off my soapbox now... nwn;I didn't even think about how the cats would have to swim to shore if their ship sank off-coast! :'O I was operating under the assumption that the currents somehow always carried the wreckage to land, but yeah, what you said makes complete sense. Tide pools sound great for coral-viewing, plus they'd make the rise of prefixes like Urchin- and Barnacle- and Anemone-potentially possible without forcing the cats to dive unrealistically deep to discover these organisms! n__n Thanks for the offer! However, I'm actually starting my senior year of high school in less than a week, which means I'll have plenty of AP classes to study for and college essays/applications to fill out, so I can't be certain how much time I'll be able to spend on the forums over the next few months. I'm happy to help out as much as I can during this planning stage, but I don't know whether I'll be active enough to be the actual leader of a clan in the future, sorry. D': |
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Aug 31, 2016 19:13:38 GMT -5
I can emphasize; long RP posts usually take me hours to write – though I'm a very slow typer regardless, haha. Hmm, maybe you should go with Hillclan, because then the name could be ~ironically~ symbolic of how the village clan looks down on others not only geographically but also ideologically, à la John Winthrop's "City upon a Hill". c'x In addition, I feel that a hill could more feasibly be a landmark that is 100% exclusive to the village clan, whereas streams might be distributed throughout more of the island's territory. I like the idea that the village cats are knowledgeable, but they still channel that knowledge primarily into aiding their ultimate objective, survival, rather than simply being curious for curiosity's sake. Yeah, I understood that the village cats' speciesism was pretty bad from your first post, and I definitely wasn't trying to downplay it. Calling it "amusing" (not to mention the X'D emoticon... OTL) was most likely not the best choice of words. Just to clarify, the village cats' extremism seems rather absurd to me, in the same way that I'm utterly incredulous and don't understand why anyone would ever feel such irrational intense hatred for certain groups of people in real life. But I'll get off my soapbox now... nwn;I didn't even think about how the cats would have to swim to shore if their ship sank off-coast! :'O I was operating under the assumption that the currents somehow always carried the wreckage to land, but yeah, what you said makes complete sense. Tide pools sound great for coral-viewing, plus they'd make the rise of prefixes like Urchin- and Barnacle- and Anemone-potentially possible without forcing the cats to dive unrealistically deep to discover these organisms! n__n Thanks for the offer! However, I'm actually starting my senior year of high school in less than a week, which means I'll have plenty of AP classes to study for and college essays/applications to fill out, so I can't be certain how much time I'll be able to spend on the forums over the next few months. I'm happy to help out as much as I can during this planning stage, but I don't know whether I'll be active enough to be the actual leader of a clan in the future, sorry. D': Hillclan it is!~ To be honest, I don't understand bigotry myself, I mean, we're all people, why can't you cool your jets and get along instead of making up excuses for why you want to hate whole groups of people for no reason, or only based on experience with a single individual? I was also excited as soon as I thought of tidepools... Coral-, Anemone-, Shrimp-, Eel-, Urchin-, and even certain fish names could be used too... It's exciting thinking about all that wildlife~ Also, I can empathize with the whole AP senior year thing- I'm a junior, and I have AP Bio, honors pre-calc, psychology, and chemistry along with other classes and no study halls... o^o;; |
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Post by ＵＢ₀₁: 𝚂𝚢𝚖𝚋𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚝． on Sept 2, 2016 16:40:47 GMT -5
Bump?
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