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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 15:33:45 GMT -5
Are there any characters that you dislike, but you have no idea/can't remember why?
Like, with Half Moon, I can't stand her, but I don't know why, I don't remember her ever doing anything that bad.
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 16, 2020 15:56:51 GMT -5
I don't like Dappletail but I really don't know why. She never did anything bad, I think, and was a friendly cat. So yeah, if I have a reason for disliking her I don't remember it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 16:14:10 GMT -5
I don't like Dappletail but I really don't know why. She never did anything bad, I think, and was a friendly cat. So yeah, if I have a reason for disliking her I don't remember it. I think a lot of people dislike Dappletail, because they see her as the "other woman" when it comes to Stormtail and Moonflower's relationship or something
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 16, 2020 16:25:19 GMT -5
I don't like Dappletail but I really don't know why. She never did anything bad, I think, and was a friendly cat. So yeah, if I have a reason for disliking her I don't remember it. I think a lot of people dislike Dappletail, because they see her as the "other woman" when it comes to Stormtail and Moonflower's relationship or something Really? I know that people don't like Stormtail because of that but I haven't seen them hating on Dappletail. Maybe I have to re-read Bluestar's Prophecy but I think if they want to blame anyone it should be Stormtail. I hate neither of them for the relationship-thing but I can definitely understand why they would hate Stormtail for it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 16:26:50 GMT -5
I think a lot of people dislike Dappletail, because they see her as the "other woman" when it comes to Stormtail and Moonflower's relationship or something Really? I know that people don't like Stormtail because of that but I haven't seen them hating on Dappletail. Maybe I have to re-read Bluestar's Prophecy but I think if they want to blame anyone it should be Stormtail. I hate neither of them for the relationship-thing but I can definitely understand why they would hate Stormtail for it. Yeah, but maybe Dappletail should get some hate, if they really were together, because she knew about Moonflower.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Mar 16, 2020 16:27:56 GMT -5
Like, with Half Moon, I can't stand her, but I don't know why, I don't remember her ever doing anything that bad. Probably because she took a character you hate and made him even more insufferable? Like, I love Jayfeather and even I think he got about 5x worse after meeting her, and about 100x worse after falling in love with her.
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Mar 16, 2020 16:39:06 GMT -5
Dappletail may get some hate, but I have an unpopular opinion that there was nothing wrong with Stormtail trying to move on. Like it's not unusual for characters in the series (even people), to find someone else after their previous partner dies.
What I mean to say is, you can still love your previous partner after they pass, but still have feelings for another person.
I still have mixed feelings about Dappletail though. To me, she's just mehhh.
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Post by Pineclaw on Mar 16, 2020 16:46:07 GMT -5
Yeah, but maybe Dappletail should get some hate, if they really were together, because she knew about Moonflower. If they really were together, then yes, maybe. It wouldn't be entirely fair to just blame Stormtail. It takes two to tango or however that saying goes. But if Stormtail wasn't in love with Moonflower anymore that's entirely on him. I don't blame him for it, sometimes you just fall out of love. But then he should have been honest with Moonflower and Dappletail could have waited until the two of them broke up if that's the case. Relationships are complicated, I guess. Let's say Stormtail and Dappletail really were in love. And Moonflower still loved Stormtail. Should they stay together even tough only one of them wants this relationship? Or should Stormtail be allowed to find a new mate? In the first scenario Moonflower might be happy for a while but Storm and Dapple would be miserable. And Moonflower would probably notice that Stormtail doesn't really love her anymore after a while. In the second scenario Moon would be the miserable one and Storm and Dapple would be happy. Jeez, am I seriously trying to calculate what would be the "better" option for something that's almost entirely based on emotions? Oh well, everyone, now you know who you shouldn't ask for relationship-advice. Still, that's just assuming there really was something going on between Stormtail and Dappletail. And if they were Stormtail should have told Moonflower. And Dappletail should have waited out of respect for Moonflower's feelings.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 17:09:06 GMT -5
Neekwanakwaki (Cloud)I meant before she died, like, whenever Stormtail was training with her. PineclawMaybe there wasn't even anything going on between those two at all, and Stormtail was just helping Dappletail train, because their relationship doesn't seem to go beyond that. Skypaw13That seems likely..omg, that whole Jayfeather x Half Moon plot was completely pointless, and made Jayfeather out of character, and seem like a complete jerk, who was willing to ditch everyone for some girl he JUST met
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Post by aether on Mar 16, 2020 17:19:55 GMT -5
I remember disliking tigerheart but I can't remember why and it's been forever since i read oots
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 17:26:39 GMT -5
I remember disliking tigerheart but I can't remember why and it's been forever since i read oots I disliked him because of how he treated SkyClan, after HE was the one who suggest they stay there. However, in Tigerheart's Shadow, he had a dream, where SkyClan was attacking and killing ShadowClan, and if Tallstar can have a dream, and completely shatter Mudclaw's life, and change the course of Firestar and Onestar's friendship, then, I guess Tigerheart can be wary of SkyClan. But I think a lot of people don't like him because of the Dovewing drama, and his aggressive nature towards the other clans
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Post by aether on Mar 16, 2020 17:35:10 GMT -5
I remember disliking tigerheart but I can't remember why and it's been forever since i read oots I disliked him because of how he treated SkyClan, after HE was the one who suggest they stay there. However, in Tigerheart's Shadow, he had a dream, where SkyClan was attacking and killing ShadowClan, and if Tallstar can have a dream, and completely shatter Mudclaw's life, and change the course of Firestar and Onestar's friendship, then, I guess Tigerheart can be wary of SkyClan. But I think a lot of people don't like him because of the Dovewing drama, and his aggressive nature towards the other clans Yeah see I haven't even read up to that part. I only remember his romance with dovepaw/wing in oots. I think maybe it was more tigerxdove that annoyed me because I vaguely remember thinking dove was being stupid and tiger was being pushy? I could be 100% wrong lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 17:37:00 GMT -5
I disliked him because of how he treated SkyClan, after HE was the one who suggest they stay there. However, in Tigerheart's Shadow, he had a dream, where SkyClan was attacking and killing ShadowClan, and if Tallstar can have a dream, and completely shatter Mudclaw's life, and change the course of Firestar and Onestar's friendship, then, I guess Tigerheart can be wary of SkyClan. But I think a lot of people don't like him because of the Dovewing drama, and his aggressive nature towards the other clans Yeah see I haven't even read up to that part. I only remember his romance with dovepaw/wing in oots. I think maybe it was more tigerxdove that annoyed me because I vaguely remember thinking dove was being stupid and tiger was being pushy? I could be 100% wrong lol I wouldn't doubt it lol I remember NOTHING about their relationship in Omen of the Stars, I just didn't focus on it that much, because I didn't care
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Post by aether on Mar 16, 2020 17:50:47 GMT -5
I wouldn't doubt it lol I remember NOTHING about their relationship in Omen of the Stars, I just didn't focus on it that much, because I didn't care Usually I love romances because I'm sappy like that, but I couldn't stand that pairing and I can't even remember why. I am halfway through PoT now so I'll find out soon when I start OotS lol. I think I remember it being so... Stupid. Like I struggled to picture it working? I guess it worked anyway, but yeah. Tigerheart annoyed me. Also honeyfern. She's pretty annoying when Berrynose is made a warrior and all she cares about is padding after him, so much so that she annoys everyone else around her lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 17:54:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't doubt it lol I remember NOTHING about their relationship in Omen of the Stars, I just didn't focus on it that much, because I didn't care Usually I love romances because I'm sappy like that, but I couldn't stand that pairing and I can't even remember why. I am halfway through PoT now so I'll find out soon when I start OotS lol. I think I remember it being so... Stupid. Like I struggled to picture it working? I guess it worked anyway, but yeah. Tigerheart annoyed me. Also honeyfern. She's pretty annoying when Berrynose is made a warrior and all she cares about is padding after him, so much so that she annoys everyone else around her lol. Haha right? I hate most of the main character relationships, because they start out with cats hating each other, and then becoming mates. Or there is just SO much drama surrounding them.
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Post by aether on Mar 16, 2020 18:26:19 GMT -5
Haha right? I hate most of the main character relationships, because they start out with cats hating each other, and then becoming mates. Or there is just SO much drama surrounding them. Lol I dont mind the romances but I do get confused when sometimes they come out of no where. Like don't get me wrong, I like leafxcrow but it came outta no where. Like leafpool was just chilling, then all of a sudden she had a massive crush of crowfeather - and he conveniently felt the same despite not giving any hints before. Or even sandxfire, which obvs love those two, and it was obvious that sandstorm had feelings but firestar hardly noticed, then cinderpelt made a comment about it, and suddenly firestar was head over heels. That being said, lack of development is a reoccurring theme on the warriors series.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 18:28:00 GMT -5
Haha right? I hate most of the main character relationships, because they start out with cats hating each other, and then becoming mates. Or there is just SO much drama surrounding them. Lol I dont mind the romances but I do get confused when sometimes they come out of no where. Like don't get me wrong, I like leafxcrow but it came outta no where. Like leafpool was just chilling, then all of a sudden she had a massive crush of crowfeather - and he conveniently felt the same despite not giving any hints before. Or even sandxfire, which obvs love those two, and it was obvious that sandstorm had feelings but firestar hardly noticed, then cinderpelt made a comment about it, and suddenly firestar was head over heels. That being said, lack of development is a reoccurring theme on the warriors series. Haha right? With Leafpool x Crowfeather, I might be remembering it wrong, but Leafpool seemed almost stalker level obsessed with Crowfeather. He was like, "Ew get away from me!" and she was like "Noo, let me heal your broken heart!" THen she goes and shatters it again into a million pieces. #goodguyLeafpool
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Post by swin on Mar 16, 2020 18:47:44 GMT -5
When I read AVoS I remember hating Alderheart and Needletail. I don't remember why I hated them though. Were they in love with each other or something? All I remember from that arc is Darktail and SkyClan.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 18:54:19 GMT -5
When I read AVoS I remember hating Alderheart and Needletail. I don't remember why I hated them though. Were they in love with each other or something? All I remember from that arc is Darktail and SkyClan. Alderheart had a crush on Needletail, which I found a little annoying, I think found it super annoying when he developed a crush on Velvet...he was like falling in love with every non-ThunderClan she-cat he talked to.
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Post by KittyClearsight on Mar 16, 2020 22:27:24 GMT -5
Millie has always been an annoyance to me since she was first introduced. Not sure why, I just always hated her. All I know is its NOT because I ship SilverxGray.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 22:55:19 GMT -5
Millie has always been an annoyance to me since she was first introduced. Not sure why, I just always hated her. All I know is its NOT because I ship SilverxGray. I didn't much like Millie when she was first introduced either, I didn't like how she was perfect at the warrior life, despite being a kittypet..she wasn't as bad about this as Jessy from Bramblestar's Storm was though.
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Post by Mayflower on Mar 17, 2020 11:26:31 GMT -5
For me, it's probably Squirrelflight, Leafpool, and Bramblestar. I can't say why I dislike Leafpool, because I disliked her even before Leafpool's Wish, but more-so after I read it. Before that, though, she just plain...bugged me. I found her even more irritating with that CrowLeaf nonsense, which was seriously frustrating, because I also hated him, too. Them combined was torture lmao
With Squirrelflight, I thought she was extremely annoying as an apprentice. She's (obviously) matured a lot since then, yet I can't shake off that feeling of irritation I got back then, you know? I legit have no reason to dislike her now, but I still do. It's actually kind of funny, because one of my best friend's favorite characters is Squirrelflight, so she's a topic we don't talk about often, because we're on entirely different ends of the spectrum when it comes to her. As for Bramblestar...I liked him before he started training with Tigerstar, but after that, I hated him and his POV and how he rationalized his hypocrisy and poor decisions. I've yet to forgive him for that, though I should have by now, since that happened literally years (a decade irl, even?) ago.
Needless to say, I struggled reading TNP, because I hated all three main POVs. It's probably my least favorite arc. The only time I enjoyed it was when we had Stormfur's POV ;p
(Having said all that, I think Squirrelflight and Leafpool have been treated awfully by other characters, though I still wish Bramblestar would go take a long walk off a short pier, but that's a topic for another day...)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 13:05:14 GMT -5
MayflowerIt makes me glad that I'm not the only one who dislikes Squirrelflight and Leafpool lol My problem with Leafpool, Squirrelflight and Bramblestar, is how EVERY single arc seems to have them in the focus, especially Squirrelflight. Like, in The New Prophecy, Stormfur's POV was mostly about his crush on Squirrelflight, with him thinking about Crowfeather x Feathertail thrown in there. As for Tawnypelt, her only role was getting bit by a rat, and that was to show off Squirrelflight and Leafpool's mind-link. The Power of Three had the secondary plot of Leafpool x Crowfeather being the parents of Hollyleaf, Lionblaze, and Jayfeather, and Squirrelflight and Bramblestar being their foster parents, and also the romance drama between all those couples. A Vision of Shadows was about Squirrelflight and Bramblestar's kit..though, he did get overshadowed by Violetshine and Twigbranch. Now, Squirrelflight has just gotten an SE, where we had to hear her go on and on and on about kits for 300 or so pages, until she finally half-died, and then, things started to get a little more interesting. Now, in The Broken Code, she's probably going to get ANOTHER POV. Another thing that annoys me a little, is how a lot of the fandom thinks she did absolutely nothing wrong in her life, and how Bramblestar is this terrible abusive mate.
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Mar 17, 2020 13:38:35 GMT -5
MayflowerIt makes me glad that I'm not the only one who dislikes Squirrelflight and Leafpool lol My problem with Leafpool, Squirrelflight and Bramblestar, is how EVERY single arc seems to have them in the focus, especially Squirrelflight. Like, in The New Prophecy, Stormfur's POV was mostly about his crush on Squirrelflight, with him thinking about Crowfeather x Feathertail thrown in there. As for Tawnypelt, her only role was getting bit by a rat, and that was to show off Squirrelflight and Leafpool's mind-link. The Power of Three had the secondary plot of Leafpool x Crowfeather being the parents of Hollyleaf, Lionblaze, and Jayfeather, and Squirrelflight and Bramblestar being their foster parents, and also the romance drama between all those couples. A Vision of Shadows was about Squirrelflight and Bramblestar's kit..though, he did get overshadowed by Violetshine and Twigbranch. Now, Squirrelflight has just gotten an SE, where we had to hear her go on and on and on about kits for 300 or so pages, until she finally half-died, and then, things started to get a little more interesting. Now, in The Broken Code, she's probably going to get ANOTHER POV. Another thing that annoys me a little, is how a lot of the fandom thinks she did absolutely nothing wrong in her life, and how Bramblestar is this terrible abusive mate. I dislike them both too. Squirrelflight still irritates me to this day as well. Do you remember that one scene in "The Sight" during a Gathering when she said something about the Clans coming together and this cheap ass ray of sunshine shone on her like she was all magical or something? I cringed. I don't remember which cat said it but he or she was all like "ThAt MeAnS sTaRcLaN aGrEeS wItH hEr!".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 14:05:36 GMT -5
Mayflower It makes me glad that I'm not the only one who dislikes Squirrelflight and Leafpool lol My problem with Leafpool, Squirrelflight and Bramblestar, is how EVERY single arc seems to have them in the focus, especially Squirrelflight. Like, in The New Prophecy, Stormfur's POV was mostly about his crush on Squirrelflight, with him thinking about Crowfeather x Feathertail thrown in there. As for Tawnypelt, her only role was getting bit by a rat, and that was to show off Squirrelflight and Leafpool's mind-link. The Power of Three had the secondary plot of Leafpool x Crowfeather being the parents of Hollyleaf, Lionblaze, and Jayfeather, and Squirrelflight and Bramblestar being their foster parents, and also the romance drama between all those couples. A Vision of Shadows was about Squirrelflight and Bramblestar's kit..though, he did get overshadowed by Violetshine and Twigbranch. Now, Squirrelflight has just gotten an SE, where we had to hear her go on and on and on about kits for 300 or so pages, until she finally half-died, and then, things started to get a little more interesting. Now, in The Broken Code, she's probably going to get ANOTHER POV. Another thing that annoys me a little, is how a lot of the fandom thinks she did absolutely nothing wrong in her life, and how Bramblestar is this terrible abusive mate. I dislike them both too. Squirrelflight still irritates me to this day as well. Do you remember that one scene in "The Sight" during a Gathering when she said something about the Clans coming together and this cheap ass ray of sunshine shone on her like she was all magical or something? I cringed. I don't remember which cat said it but he or she was all like "ThAt MeAnS sTaRcLaN aGrEeS wItH hEr!". Lol really? I don't remember that, but it sounds hilarious. I'm just so tired of hearing about ALL the New Prophecy Cast TBH, like ShadowClan isn't all just Tawnypelt and her family, WindClan isn't all just Crowfeather and his family, and etc.
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Mar 17, 2020 14:26:36 GMT -5
I dislike them both too. Squirrelflight still irritates me to this day as well. Do you remember that one scene in "The Sight" during a Gathering when she said something about the Clans coming together and this cheap ass ray of sunshine shone on her like she was all magical or something? I cringed. I don't remember which cat said it but he or she was all like "ThAt MeAnS sTaRcLaN aGrEeS wItH hEr!". Lol really? I don't remember that, but it sounds hilarious. I'm just so tired of hearing about ALL the New Prophecy Cast TBH, like ShadowClan isn't all just Tawnypelt and her family, WindClan isn't all just Crowfeather and his family, and etc. I agree dude. They need to be out of the spotlight and let other cats have their time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 14:32:33 GMT -5
Lol really? I don't remember that, but it sounds hilarious. I'm just so tired of hearing about ALL the New Prophecy Cast TBH, like ShadowClan isn't all just Tawnypelt and her family, WindClan isn't all just Crowfeather and his family, and etc. I agree dude. They need to be out of the spotlight and let other cats have their time. Right? I would LOVE to know more about Harestar and Kestrelflight, and all those random apprentices that just appeared out of nowhere, like Hootwhisker, Slightfoot, and Oatclaw.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Mar 17, 2020 18:11:12 GMT -5
If Shadowclan was all TawnyRowan wholesomeness, we'd be better off
I WOULD love to see more Harestar. He's a breath of fresh air after Onestar. I hope he gets a mate and has babies and is an adorable father
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 18:13:56 GMT -5
If Shadowclan was all TawnyRowan wholesomeness, we'd be better off I WOULD love to see more Harestar. He's a breath of fresh air after Onestar. I hope he gets a mate and has babies and is an adorable father Me too Imagine if he becomes mates with Nightcloud lol, she deserves to be happy, after having to deal with Crowfeather
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Mar 17, 2020 18:15:46 GMT -5
If Shadowclan was all TawnyRowan wholesomeness, we'd be better off I WOULD love to see more Harestar. He's a breath of fresh air after Onestar. I hope he gets a mate and has babies and is an adorable father Me too Imagine if he becomes mates with Nightcloud lol, she deserves to be happy, after having to deal with Crowfeather She's getting too old. I feel she's found some peace now with Crowfeather and Breezepelt. As for the thread topic, there are no characters I just hate and don't know the reason of. I mean...I'm mildly annoyed with Briarlight but mainly because of people shoving her with Jayfeather constantly.
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