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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 12:25:59 GMT -5
I know he's been talked about before in The Broken Code book 3 post, but I decided to make a thread to discuss just Berrynose.
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Post by Jaysnow on Feb 5, 2020 12:28:15 GMT -5
Die scum!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 12:29:27 GMT -5
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt unless we have absolute proof that he was willingly involved
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Post by Card against Humanity on Feb 5, 2020 12:29:47 GMT -5
i think im the only person in the fandom who doesnt have much of an opinion on him? he's just kind of annoying
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Post by Spinestar on Feb 5, 2020 12:34:14 GMT -5
i think im the only person in the fandom who doesnt have much of an opinion on him? he's just kind of annoying makes 2 of us
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Feb 5, 2020 12:35:05 GMT -5
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt unless we have absolute proof that he was willingly involved Same. I really hope that he wasn't directly involved, as I think it would be a little out of character. Being rude? Yes. Being loyal to Bramblestar? Understandable (to an extent). Murdering an innocent medicine cat on the way to the Moonpool? No, that's just unacceptable. If he really did help fake Bramblestar willingly with this, I going to lose quite a bit of respect for him though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 12:41:34 GMT -5
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt unless we have absolute proof that he was willingly involved Same. I really hope that he wasn't directly involved, as I think it would be a little out of character. Being rude? Yes. Being loyal to Bramblestar? Understandable (to an extent). Murdering an innocent medicine cat on the way to the Moonpool? No, that's just unacceptable. If he really did help fake Bramblestar willingly with this, I going to lose quite a bit of respect for him though. I'll lose every bit of respect for him, and he'll replace Onestar as the cat I hate in this series. Like, I know that Darkstripe and Blackstar have done similar things, and I don't hate them, but it's different. They were meant to be the bad guys, it was expected of them. However with Berrynose, he's ALWAYS been a very loyal warrior who has never broken the code, and he might be a bit arrogant, but he's never been murderous.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 5, 2020 12:51:59 GMT -5
I found Berrynose to be annoying in an almost humorous way up until recently. Now he's just annoying, and pathetically so.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 12:52:49 GMT -5
If he did willingly do it, then I am REALLY curious to see the reactions of his family, Mousewhisker, Rosepetal, Poppyfrost, Daisy, Molewhisker, and Cherryfall.
Worse thought...what if some of them know, and support it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 12:54:14 GMT -5
I found Berrynose to be annoying in an almost humorous way up until recently. Now he's just annoying, and pathetically so. Yeah, I found him to also be annoying but funny, and other than that, he wasn't a bad cat at all, but now...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 12:57:51 GMT -5
I think it would have been WAY better if the impostor had chosen Thornclaw as his deputy. Thornclaw was close to Ashfur, like he rallied the hardest when Ashfur was found dead, and he's also shown to be pretty aggressive. Not like, claw a medicine cat aggressive, but still. He also trained in the Dark Forest, as an adult, who knew EXACTLY who Tigerstar and all the other bad cats were, so he's not exactly against doing bad things. Most importantly, he's the father of Stemleaf, the cat who is part of the resistance.
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Post by *Faith* on Feb 5, 2020 15:13:53 GMT -5
I was never a fan of Berrynose. So I wouldn't mind if he died. Hopefully, alongside Bumblestripe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 15:17:21 GMT -5
I was never a fan of Berrynose. So I wouldn't mind if he died. Hopefully, alongside Bumblestripe. I liked them both, they weren't in my top ten favorite character list or anything, but I didn't dislike them in the slightest
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Post by scint on Feb 5, 2020 15:37:01 GMT -5
I still love Berrynose, he's one of the few characters in ThunderClan with an actual personality. And I also find it ridiculous that the majority of people want him dead after TST and what has been revealed for VoS. I get y'all hate him, but isn't death a little extreme? We don't even know if Berrynose knows about the recent events or helped out with Shadowsight's possible death.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 15:43:31 GMT -5
I still love Berrynose, he's one of the few characters in ThunderClan with an actual personality. And I also find it ridiculous that the majority of people want him dead after TST and what has been revealed for VoS. I get y'all hate him, but isn't death a little extreme? We don't even know if Berrynose knows about the recent events or helped out with Shadowsight's possible death. I don't want him dead, if he did willingly help, I don't want him getting off that easily
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 5, 2020 18:18:12 GMT -5
While he is annoying, I'm not going to wish death on him. It's possible he might or might not have helped murder Shadowsight. But it is suspicious that he returned to camp with fake Bramblestar at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 18:42:13 GMT -5
While he is annoying, I'm not going to wish death on him. It's possible he might or might not have helped murder Shadowsight. But it is suspicious that he returned to camp with fake Bramblestar at the same time. Same I want him to at least see the look on his mother's face, when she finds out what he possibly did. So many characters just die before facing any real consequences. Like, Ashfur, no one knew what he did when he was alive, and now he's chilling in StarClan, where no one seems to hold any grudges, heck, I bet Bluestar and Hawkheart are bffs up there.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 5, 2020 19:27:28 GMT -5
While he is annoying, I'm not going to wish death on him. It's possible he might or might not have helped murder Shadowsight. But it is suspicious that he returned to camp with fake Bramblestar at the same time. Same I want him to at least see the look on his mother's face, when she finds out what he possibly did. So many characters just die before facing any real consequences. Like, Ashfur, no one knew what he did when he was alive, and now he's chilling in StarClan, where no one seems to hold any grudges, heck, I bet Bluestar and Hawkheart are bffs up there.
True. I can imagine Daisy would be very upset with him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 19:28:34 GMT -5
Same I want him to at least see the look on his mother's face, when she finds out what he possibly did. So many characters just die before facing any real consequences. Like, Ashfur, no one knew what he did when he was alive, and now he's chilling in StarClan, where no one seems to hold any grudges, heck, I bet Bluestar and Hawkheart are bffs up there.
True. I can imagine Daisy would be very upset with him. Me too I really hope he isn't going to be a villain
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 5, 2020 19:29:48 GMT -5
True. I can imagine Daisy would be very upset with him. Me too I really hope he isn't going to be a villain
Seems like he might at least be helping a villain, but I can't see him as totally bad.
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Post by platinum blond death on Feb 5, 2020 19:31:08 GMT -5
Berrynose is definitely not a murderer from what I've seen of him, but he's arrogant and one of my least favorite non villanous characters. If he did have a hand in this I'd say that's a bit out of character. Being a jerk? No, that's not ooc. Being a murderer? Very much so.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 19:34:13 GMT -5
Berrynose is definitely not a murderer from what I've seen of him, but he's arrogant and one of my least favorite non villanous characters. If he did have a hand in this I'd say that's a bit out of character. Being a jerk? No, that's not ooc. Being a murderer? Very much so. I agree, like I like Berrynose, but you're right that he is arrogant, but he always seemed to do what was in the best interest of the clan
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Feb 6, 2020 1:20:08 GMT -5
Whether his actions are willing or not, it won't change that he might have had some involvement in the death of a medicine cat. That's some being big taboo if you ask me. I guess this will also be more than enough reason for him to go down, from his deputy position, when Brashstar gets taken down too. At this point, I don't think Bramblestar will be able to return to leadership, Squirrelflight will either retire or die, and Berrynose has no real claim to deputy and now especially more so.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 8:04:05 GMT -5
Whether his actions are willing or not, it won't change that he might have had some involvement in the death of a medicine cat. That's some being big taboo if you ask me. I guess this will also be more than enough reason for him to go down, from his deputy position, when Brashstar gets taken down too. At this point, I don't think Bramblestar will be able to return to leadership, Squirrelflight will either retire or die, and Berrynose has no real claim to deputy and now especially more so. That's true, I really hope that someone points out soon that he's never had an apprentice
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Post by Mayflower on Feb 6, 2020 10:32:20 GMT -5
Whether his actions are willing or not, it won't change that he might have had some involvement in the death of a medicine cat. That's some being big taboo if you ask me. I guess this will also be more than enough reason for him to go down, from his deputy position, when Brashstar gets taken down too. At this point, I don't think Bramblestar will be able to return to leadership, Squirrelflight will either retire or die, and Berrynose has no real claim to deputy and now especially more so. Yeah, I genuinely cannot see how Bramblestar's spirit can return to his body and just continue being ThunderClan's leader. How would the other Clans ever get over this? Hell, how can his own Clan get over this after being forced to follow the impostor's abusive regime? I hope the Erins don't try to wrap everything in a neat little bow, and we see Bramblestar come back and everyone trusts him almost immediately. The ramifications of what fake!Bramblestar is doing should have awful ripple effects on the real Bramblestar if he is ever able to return, and I don't mean just a snide comment or two from cats in the Clan or from ShadowClan whenever he says or does something later that upsets them.
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