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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 21:58:13 GMT -5
Do you think they'll ever make their way back to SkyClan? I feel REALLY bad for their families.
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Post by VIXENCLAW on Feb 2, 2020 1:03:51 GMT -5
I hope so, Waspwhisker is awesome. Though I don’t remember Birdwing
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 11:02:58 GMT -5
I hope so, Waspwhisker is awesome. Though I don’t remember BirdwingBirdwing is Fidgetflake's mother She's also the mate of Sagenose, and the sister of Sandynose
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*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 2, 2020 11:37:32 GMT -5
Probably not, but I hope they do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 11:49:18 GMT -5
Probably not, but I hope they do. Me too I just realized that Sandynose lost both of his littermates, and his older half-brother in Hawkwing's Journey, that's really sad. Speaking of his older half-siblings, what happened to Rockshade?
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Post by Mistybreeze on Feb 2, 2020 14:49:58 GMT -5
Almost certainly not at this point. They've been taken who knows where by the Twolegs and they have no way of knowing that SkyClan has left that lake. Plus it's been a couple years by now. They most likely got euthanized for being too feral and aggressive, or live so far away that they couldn't ever find their way to the right lake.
Ignoring the statistics for a moment, the only one I want to see return in Birdwing. Poor Sagenose deserves at least that.
But as much as I love him, Waspwhisker shouldn't return. Hawkwing is a fantastic deputy and deserves to succeed Leafstar. Bringing Waspwhisker back will cause instability in SkyClan when it can least afford it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 15:27:35 GMT -5
Almost certainly not at this point. They've been taken who knows where by the Twolegs and they have no way of knowing that SkyClan has left that lake. Plus it's been a couple years by now. They most likely got euthanized for being too feral and aggressive, or live so far away that they couldn't ever find their way to the right lake. Ignoring the statistics for a moment, the only one I want to see return in Birdwing. Poor Sagenose deserves at least that. But as much as I love him, Waspwhisker shouldn't return. Hawkwing is a fantastic deputy and deserves to succeed Leafstar. Bringing Waspwhisker back will cause instability in SkyClan when it can least afford it. Jeez, I hope that isn't the case, that'd be SUPER sad. Hopefully they got sent to someone who is equipped to work with ferals. Yeah, poor Sagenose and Fidgetflake, first Snipkit drowns and then Curlypaw leaves to go be a kittypet
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Post by *Faith* on Feb 2, 2020 16:20:57 GMT -5
Clovertail is gone as well, but she's obviously not returning. As sad as it is, she is pretty old and was most likely put down. :c
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 16:23:20 GMT -5
Clovertail is gone as well, but she's obviously not returning. As sad as it is, she is pretty old and was most likely put down. :c Omg I didn't even notice she was gone Maybe not...because Pinestar was pretty old, and he got adopted
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Post by Phoenix1410 on Feb 3, 2020 1:17:55 GMT -5
Someone asked Kate on BlogClan what happened to these cats. This was her answer:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 8:23:27 GMT -5
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Post by Mistybreeze on Feb 3, 2020 15:42:54 GMT -5
Phoenix1410 The question included the cats that were missing from the HJ allegiances. Does she really think that Shrewtooth and Petalnose would became kittypets again? After the horrible abuse they suffered at the hands of that evil Twoleg? Really?! Not to mention Petal and Rock have kin in the Clan. Like they would willingly abandon them to become kittypets without some dire circumstance. And Shrew has demonstrated his loyalty to SkyClan numerous times. He's not just going to up and leave the cats who helped him with his trauma. The only one I could possibly see leaving is Egg. He was fairly new and Sharpclaw lied to him in order to get him to join. I could see him encountering kin or something and leaving with them. My personal theories, if anyone cares: Shrewtooth: Since he was the one who exposed Sol, I headcanon that Sol was somehow involved with his death. He wouldn't have done the deed himself, but I could see Sol convincing someone to go kill Shrew. I'm still mad that they killed off him in particular. I'd really grown to like him and he had so much potential.
Egg: Like I said, he left with kin/friends and is probably still alive somewhere.
Rockshade: Probably a illness/injury death. Since he was a fisher, maybe he overestimated and drowned.
Petalnose: She probably died of sickness. We don't know how old she was and grief probably aged her. So old age/illness.
Waspwhisker: The second most adoptable after Fidget. He was a former kittypet, so he knows how to behave. I could see him getting adopted.
Birdwing: She's young, so she may have been adopted. But she was born and raised in gorge, she should would naturally be more hostile. Plus she had her son to protect. Probably euthanized.
Clovertail: Definitely euthanized. She was old and very wild. She could have been sent to a feral cat sanctuary, but unlikely at her age.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 15:49:31 GMT -5
Phoenix1410 The question included the cats that were missing from the HJ allegiances. Does she really think that Shrewtooth and Petalnose would became kittypets again? After the horrible abuse they suffered at the hands of that evil Twoleg? Really?! Not to mention Petal and Rock have kin in the Clan. Like they would willingly abandon them to become kittypets without some dire circumstance. And Shrew has demonstrated his loyalty to SkyClan numerous times. He's not just going to up and leave the cats who helped him with his trauma. The only one I could possibly see leaving is Egg. He was fairly new and Sharpclaw lied to him in order to get him to join. I could see him encountering kin or something and leaving with them. My personal theories, if anyone cares: Shrewtooth: Since he was the one who exposed Sol, I headcanon that Sol was somehow involved with his death. He wouldn't have done the deed himself, but I could see Sol convincing someone to go kill Shrew. I'm still mad that they killed off him in particular. I'd really grown to like him and he had so much potential.
Egg: Like I said, he left with kin/friends and is probably still alive somewhere.
Rockshade: Probably a illness/injury death. Since he was a fisher, maybe he overestimated and drowned.
Petalnose: She probably died of sickness. We don't know how old she was and grief probably aged her. So old age/illness.
Waspwhisker: The second most adoptable after Fidget. He was a former kittypet, so he knows how to behave. I could see him getting adopted.
Birdwing: She's young, so she may have been adopted. But she was born and raised in gorge, she should would naturally be more hostile. Plus she had her son to protect. Probably euthanized.
Clovertail: Definitely euthanized. She was old and very wild. She could have been sent to a feral cat sanctuary, but unlikely at her age. That would be sooo sad about Clovertail and Birdwing...poor Sandynose, Sagenose, Tinycloud, and Fidgetflake! I don't know who Egg is, but I hope he's like an off-white color, that'd be funny I really hope they're all okay, even though it seems unlikely
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Post by Mistybreeze on Feb 3, 2020 15:56:02 GMT -5
Phoenix1410 The question included the cats that were missing from the HJ allegiances. Does she really think that Shrewtooth and Petalnose would became kittypets again? After the horrible abuse they suffered at the hands of that evil Twoleg? Really?! Not to mention Petal and Rock have kin in the Clan. Like they would willingly abandon them to become kittypets without some dire circumstance. And Shrew has demonstrated his loyalty to SkyClan numerous times. He's not just going to up and leave the cats who helped him with his trauma. The only one I could possibly see leaving is Egg. He was fairly new and Sharpclaw lied to him in order to get him to join. I could see him encountering kin or something and leaving with them. My personal theories, if anyone cares: Shrewtooth: Since he was the one who exposed Sol, I headcanon that Sol was somehow involved with his death. He wouldn't have done the deed himself, but I could see Sol convincing someone to go kill Shrew. I'm still mad that they killed off him in particular. I'd really grown to like him and he had so much potential.
Egg: Like I said, he left with kin/friends and is probably still alive somewhere.
Rockshade: Probably a illness/injury death. Since he was a fisher, maybe he overestimated and drowned.
Petalnose: She probably died of sickness. We don't know how old she was and grief probably aged her. So old age/illness.
Waspwhisker: The second most adoptable after Fidget. He was a former kittypet, so he knows how to behave. I could see him getting adopted.
Birdwing: She's young, so she may have been adopted. But she was born and raised in gorge, she should would naturally be more hostile. Plus she had her son to protect. Probably euthanized.
Clovertail: Definitely euthanized. She was old and very wild. She could have been sent to a feral cat sanctuary, but unlikely at her age. That would be sooo sad about Clovertail and Birdwing...poor Sandynose, Sagenose, Tinycloud, and Fidgetflake! I don't know who Egg is, but I hope he's like an off-white color, that'd be funny I really hope they're all okay, even though it seems unlikely Rock, Petal, Shrew, and Egg were missing before the Darktail situation, so they are almost certainly dead. Sounds like you need to read SkyClan's Destiny, my friend, if you don't know who Egg is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 15:58:21 GMT -5
That would be sooo sad about Clovertail and Birdwing...poor Sandynose, Sagenose, Tinycloud, and Fidgetflake! I don't know who Egg is, but I hope he's like an off-white color, that'd be funny I really hope they're all okay, even though it seems unlikely Rock, Petal, Shrew, and Egg were missing before the Darktail situation, so they are almost certainly dead. Sounds like you need to read SkyClan's Destiny, my friend, if you don't know who Egg is. I plan on it after I finish Tigerheart's Shadow
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Post by Mistybreeze on Feb 3, 2020 19:56:52 GMT -5
Rock, Petal, Shrew, and Egg were missing before the Darktail situation, so they are almost certainly dead. Sounds like you need to read SkyClan's Destiny, my friend, if you don't know who Egg is. I plan on it after I finish Tigerheart's Shadow I'm assuming you've already read Firestar's Quest then? That's the first book in the SkyClan timeline.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 20:01:59 GMT -5
I plan on it after I finish Tigerheart's Shadow I'm assuming you've already read Firestar's Quest then? That's the first book in the SkyClan timeline. Yes That was actually the first SE I ever read I've also read SkyClan and the Stranger, Hawkwing's Journey, and Cloudstar's Journey (and any other SkyClan novels except for SkyClan's Destiny)
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Post by Mistybreeze on Feb 3, 2020 20:08:17 GMT -5
I'm assuming you've already read Firestar's Quest then? That's the first book in the SkyClan timeline. Yes That was actually the first SE I ever read I've also read SkyClan and the Stranger, Hawkwing's Journey, and Cloudstar's Journey (and any other SkyClan novels except for SkyClan's Destiny) Just checking. You'd be completely lost if you haven't. SATS actually takes place after SD, but I don't think you really need to read it first for context. You have to have read FQ though, since that sets everything up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 20:10:03 GMT -5
Yes That was actually the first SE I ever read I've also read SkyClan and the Stranger, Hawkwing's Journey, and Cloudstar's Journey (and any other SkyClan novels except for SkyClan's Destiny) Just checking. You'd be completely lost if you haven't. SATS actually takes place after SD, but I don't think you really need to read it first for context. You have to have read FQ though, since that sets everything up. I figured that, because Sandynose is in SkyClan and the Stranger as an apprentice, but he isn't in SkyClan's Destiny sadly.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Feb 4, 2020 12:54:48 GMT -5
Kind of hoping at least some of them pull a Graystripe and come back. It’s kind of annoying that the authors did what they did when there’s just no conclusion...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2020 13:03:21 GMT -5
Kind of hoping at least some of them pull a Graystripe and come back. It’s kind of annoying that the authors did what they did when there’s just no conclusion... Agreed, I'm glad that at least Sandynose came back, though I would have loved to see Hawkwing x Plumwillow
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Feb 4, 2020 15:08:42 GMT -5
I think the thing that annoys me the most about the plot point is that it wasn’t really needed. The characters could’ve died on the journey and it would’ve been the same result, except with the closure for both readers and the survivors. It was especially noticeable in the case of Fidgetflake, since his disappearance cause a conflict, and there was just no explanation for how he escaped, got all the way back to the gorge, and still had no idea where the others were. There’s not even a sign or anything for him to interpret, and with the arc is going there may never be... Frecklewish escaping in the beginning or even going with the group (and subsequently avoiding capture) would’ve made more sense, since there really wasn’t any explanation as to why she wasn’t there in the first place (at least from what I can remember).
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Post by Mistybreeze on Feb 4, 2020 21:31:29 GMT -5
I think the thing that annoys me the most about the plot point is that it wasn’t really needed. The characters could’ve died on the journey and it would’ve been the same result, except with the closure for both readers and the survivors. It was especially noticeable in the case of Fidgetflake, since his disappearance cause a conflict, and there was just no explanation for how he escaped, got all the way back to the gorge, and still had no idea where the others were. There’s not even a sign or anything for him to interpret, and with the arc is going there may never be... Frecklewish escaping in the beginning or even going with the group (and subsequently avoiding capture) would’ve made more sense, since there really wasn’t any explanation as to why she wasn’t there in the first place (at least from what I can remember). We actually have an explanation for Frecklewish. She got separated from the Clan, as did several others, and was trapped in a Twoleg nest until she was rescued in DN. So she never left the gorge area. As for Fidgetflake, we didn't get any explanation. I guess it's possible that he got adopted by a household that's near the gorge. Four cats got caught, so one escaping is plausible.
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