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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Feb 1, 2020 2:05:47 GMT -5
So from the leaks posted on the site temporarily, according to DW, there was an all out 5-clan war that left all of them devastate. It also talks about Squirrelflight revealing the identity of Fake!Bramble, meaning she's either going to try and figure it out, or she finds out from VoS. It's been a while since an all out war happened, where the clans are fighting among themselves. I can't really count the other clans vs ShadowClan/Kin but can count the all out war during the Eclispe. However, this will involve SkyClan this time, which is pretty crazy. A lot of things can happen as a result of this, and why it led up to this. The medicine cats are all on edge it would seem, Shadowsight is supposedly missing/dead, StarClan is still silent, and there's strange misshapenings going on in the territories. Cats are almost getting hurt or dying from "accidents" while others think it's some sort of retribution from StarClan for having codebreakers in their clans. It's all pretty wild, and tensions seem to be high. Which Shadowsight out of the picture, I'm sure his vision of Tiger and Bramble fighting will come true in VoS. And I wonder if his disappearance/or murder, is the trigger. Other things to note on is that Tree might try to take his family and leave because of the battle. And Bristlefrost is still struggling with the rebellion group. I think the next two books are going to be very interesting, but I don't think it will peak officially until the fourth book when the reveal finally happens. I think because Squirrelflight is also in focus, it makes me think the impostor is Ashfur even more now. My guess is that her and Bristlefrost will probably team up, and if Shadowsight is really dead, Squirrelflight will replace him as a POV. While Shadowsight will have a StarClan POV. Squirrelflight also seems to have a lot of deathflags showing up, and now Bramblestar too. What are your thoughts, and predictions for the next two books? Who do you think will die, and what do you think will happen to all five clans?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 2:14:26 GMT -5
Waiter? I'd like one ThunderClan purge, please. And some Squirrelstar on the side. For dessert give me Berrynose snapping tf out of it.
(Kill the remaining TPB cats, some of the TNP cast, including Bramblestar. Kill some of the new cats since they honestly just take up space. Leave a few back and actually give them personality traits and development)
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Post by alphayamergo on Feb 1, 2020 4:38:30 GMT -5
Even if Shadowsight is dead, I don't think we'll lose him as a POV. A lot can be done with him trying to find StarClan, creating a link between them and the Clans again, and investigating as a ghost where Rootpaw and Bristlefrost can't. Having said that, I'd LOVE a Squirrelflight POV for the rest of the arc because this is such a personal arc for her, with her husband possessed, her kids targeted, and the probable villain being her nemesis. It feels like a waste if we don't get a Squirrelflight POV. We've had four POVs before, why not again?
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Post by Fireleap on Feb 1, 2020 11:39:05 GMT -5
I'm not really a fan of the whole "Squirrelflight gets a POV" thing. Nothing against Squirrelflight, I just don't really miss her POV. Maybe Darkness Within could be a Night Whispers type book where she gets a POV and dies at the end? I don't know, just a thought.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Feb 1, 2020 13:04:52 GMT -5
I'd like to see the clans have the amount of cats they had in TPB once this battle ends. Seriously. There's too many warriors who are just there and probably won't ever have a personality. May as well start fresh.
And maybe RiverClan can get a new leader? If Tigerstar can lose many lives in one go, so can Mistystar. Or at least make it relevant somehow.
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Post by Phoenix1410 on Feb 1, 2020 13:06:49 GMT -5
Tigerstar will likely send out patrols looking for Shadowsight right away. If not lead one himself. You will definitely search the territories of ShadowClan, SkyClan and ThunderClan for him. Leafstar will definitely allow this. With Fakestar, I'm not quite sure if he would allow it, but since the next chapter is likely to be Bristlefrost's POV, at least she should be looking for him. I then wonder if the patrols are going to find him at all. There are a few options here as to how the story will continue. (To be on the safe side, I'm going to assume that Shadowsight is not 100 percent dead, since Spiresight could hardly see Shadowsight’s body down in the ravine.) - A} Either they don't find him.
- B} They find his body.
- C} They find him dying, but they can't heal him in time and he dies.
- D} They find him dying and they can heal him.
If I had to guess, option B} or C} is most likely to occur. If Shadowsight is really 100% dead, I hope that his body will be found soon before it starts to... you know... the thing that happens when a body is out too long and is not found.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 15:50:02 GMT -5
I'm not really a fan of the whole "Squirrelflight gets a POV" thing. Nothing against Squirrelflight, I just don't really miss her POV. Maybe Darkness Within could be a Night Whispers type book where she gets a POV and dies at the end? I don't know, just a thought. im not either, she's had a whole arc and a super edition to have her own pov, and we have 3 fresh povs to work with.
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Post by Mayflower on Feb 1, 2020 19:48:15 GMT -5
I think you're right about Shadowsight's potential death being the trigger for the war. I'm wondering if the all-out war will be caused by ShadowClan (namely, Tigerheart...) accusing one of the other Clans of murdering -- or attempting to murder, depending on whether he's actually dead and will stay dead -- Shadowsight, since the attacker threw his body down a deep ravine by the border between ThunderClan and SkyClan? That's a pretty suspicious place to put a body, and misunderstandings are definitely gonna spring up if it's eventually found. Sure, it guarantees (at least in the attacker's eyes) that Shadowsight is actually dead, and if he isn't, there would be difficulty not only getting to him, but saving him in time, but I have a bad feeling that SkyClan might be blamed for it. If it's fake!Bramblestar, he might accuse Leafstar of doing it, to take the heat off himself. Fake!Bramblestar or Tigerheart might argue that the other Clans blame Shadowsight for what's happening with StarClan, since it turns out his visions weren't from them at all, even though he couldn't have known that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 19:52:03 GMT -5
I think you're right about Shadowsight's potential death being the trigger for the war. I'm wondering if the all-out war will be caused by ShadowClan (namely, Tigerheart...) accusing one of the other Clans of murdering -- or attempting to murder, depending on whether he's actually dead and will stay dead -- Shadowsight, since the attacker threw his body down a deep ravine by the border between ThunderClan and SkyClan? That's a pretty suspicious place to put a body, and misunderstandings are definitely gonna spring up if it's eventually found. Sure, it guarantees (at least in the attacker's eyes) that Shadowsight is actually dead, and if he isn't, there would be difficulty not only getting to him, but saving him in time, but I have a bad feeling that SkyClan might be blamed for it. If it's fake!Bramblestar, he might accuse Leafstar of doing it, to take the heat off himself. Fake!Bramblestar or Tigerheart might argue that the other Clans blame Shadowsight for what's happening with StarClan, since it turns out his visions weren't from them at all, even though he couldn't have known that. I can totally see Tigerheart doing that, remember how upset he was about Puddleshine being hurt by the barbed wire, and the fact that it appeared like Alderheart was poisoning him (even though he was trying to cure him) Well, Shadowsight is his son, so he's going to be PISSED.
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Post by Mayflower on Feb 1, 2020 19:59:35 GMT -5
I think you're right about Shadowsight's potential death being the trigger for the war. I'm wondering if the all-out war will be caused by ShadowClan (namely, Tigerheart...) accusing one of the other Clans of murdering -- or attempting to murder, depending on whether he's actually dead and will stay dead -- Shadowsight, since the attacker threw his body down a deep ravine by the border between ThunderClan and SkyClan? That's a pretty suspicious place to put a body, and misunderstandings are definitely gonna spring up if it's eventually found. Sure, it guarantees (at least in the attacker's eyes) that Shadowsight is actually dead, and if he isn't, there would be difficulty not only getting to him, but saving him in time, but I have a bad feeling that SkyClan might be blamed for it. If it's fake!Bramblestar, he might accuse Leafstar of doing it, to take the heat off himself. Fake!Bramblestar or Tigerheart might argue that the other Clans blame Shadowsight for what's happening with StarClan, since it turns out his visions weren't from them at all, even though he couldn't have known that. I can totally see Tigerheart doing that, remember how upset he was about Puddleshine being hurt by the barbed wire, and the fact that it appeared like Alderheart was poisoning him (even though he was trying to cure him) Well, Shadowsight is his son, so he's going to be PISSED. Exactly! If he was pissed about his medicine cat, who he wasn't even close to, imagine his reaction to finding out what happened to his son? For once, I feel bad for him and Dovewing...no parent should have to hear that their child has been killed so brutally. They were always so worried about him, too, due to his seizures, then this happens during a time when he should have been safe. Going to a medicine cat meeting is one of the last places you'd think a medicine cat would get hurt or killed, short of it happening at the actual Moonpool, or in their own camp, like with Spottedleaf. I can't imagine how heartbroken they're going to be. God, this is gonna be crazy once it all comes to a head. I can't wait to get my hands on this book. April can't come soon enough!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 20:07:35 GMT -5
I can totally see Tigerheart doing that, remember how upset he was about Puddleshine being hurt by the barbed wire, and the fact that it appeared like Alderheart was poisoning him (even though he was trying to cure him) Well, Shadowsight is his son, so he's going to be PISSED. Exactly! If he was pissed about his medicine cat, who he wasn't even close to, imagine his reaction to finding out what happened to his son? For once, I feel bad for him and Dovewing...no parent should have to hear that their child has been killed so brutally. They were always so worried about him, too, due to his seizures, then this happens during a time when he should have been safe. Going to a medicine cat meeting is one of the last places you'd think a medicine cat would get hurt or killed, short of it happening at the actual Moonpool, or in their own camp, like with Spottedleaf. I can't imagine how heartbroken they're going to be. God, this is gonna be crazy once it all comes to a head. I can't wait to get my hands on this book. April can't come soon enough! Right? This has happened before...with Ravenwing, it makes me wonder how his family handled it? I can't wait either, it's only two months, but it seems sooo far away
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