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Post by graygoyle on Nov 5, 2019 22:02:52 GMT -5
best/worst, in your opinion.
i think they actually did well with "the chosen one" concerning firestar's character. i liked watching him grow and fulfill his prophecy. i think the erins actually do really well with ALL their chosen ones, and i like seeing the characters' develop and grow into their destinies.
by far, for me it is the love triangles and forbidden romances. not because i hate those cliches in general, but i just think they are overdone in the WC universe. there's at least one, if not more than one, per series, and i think it's a trope the erins need to break from--or at least address? maybe the leaders of the clans can have a come to jesus moment and be like... "hey, this happens way too much... maybe we should... idk... change the rules???" idk maybe i'd tolerate it more if it did more for the plot besides antagonize the status quo and yadda yadda...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2019 22:17:04 GMT -5
Worst:
1. The characters who hate each other falling in love, they did it with Sandstorm and Firestar, Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw, Crowfeather and Leafstar, Hawkwing and Pebbleshine, and probably more that I'm forgetting.
2. Cats being forced to be medicine cats, it seems like out of 50 medicine cats, only 5 of them wanted to actually be a medicine cat, I know I'm exaggerating, but still.
3. Most of the evil cats being dark brown tabbies.
4. Not really a cliche, but like there are SO many blue-eyed grey cats.
I can't really think of any best cliches right now
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Nov 6, 2019 0:33:23 GMT -5
I don't remember Leapool specifically hating Crowfeather, rather it was the other way around. The only thing I remember was her being jealous of when he got with Nightcloud.
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Nov 6, 2019 0:34:25 GMT -5
There is the cliche of black cats dying of horrible deaths or having unfortunate events happen to them.
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Post by halogen on Nov 6, 2019 15:58:51 GMT -5
best/worst, in your opinion. i think they actually did well with "the chosen one" concerning firestar's character. i liked watching him grow and fulfill his prophecy. i think the erins actually do really well with ALL their chosen ones, and i like seeing the characters' develop and grow into their destinies. I know this is an unpopular opinion but I feel like however well they did with Firestar's arc, the whole prophecy thing was stupid by default because there is absolutely no purpose for it in the story. The whole point of Firestar's arc was supposed to be that he starts out as nothing, as someone who others think can't be a good warrior, and then becomes a legend solely through his own merit, determination and compassion. There is absolutely no need of ran incredibly obvious prophecy that says that he is important besides that its a cliche to have that in fantasy fiction. I know people compare his prophecy favorably to the third arc's because Firestar's success really had nothing to do with a prophecy, but that's exactly the point: if it was so unimportant to the plot, why was it there? All it does is diminishes the extent to which Firestar got where he was on his own merit, while adding nothing to the story. I honestly feel the second arc handled prophecies way better, with the cats being chosen by StarClan having a real purpose (and the fact that the cats being chosen for their preexisting connections to each other gave an actual explanation to why so many were part ThunderClan rather than in the later arcs where it's just assumed that only cats who are related to ThunderClan main characters can be important), and some of them weren't chosen so it didn't feel like it was a story of "only special cats from prophecies can be important".
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Post by silly little cat books on Nov 6, 2019 18:12:42 GMT -5
The big brown tabby tom being the antagonist or being untrustworthy.
Medicine cats being forced into their positions and / or having a 'forbidden love issue'.
ThunderClan. Nuff said.
Protagonist being Firestar's descendent and / or starting off as an apprentice.
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