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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 9:10:11 GMT -5
Who did you think was worse?
Personally, I think Shrewclaw was, Tallstar never did anything to him before he started bullying him. Whereas, Yellowfang was never even nice to Foxheart, ever since Foxheart was a kit, Yellowfang thought she was annoying. Also, I don't remember Foxheart ever physically attacking Yellowfang unlike Shrewclaw.
They're both brats though.
Also, who do you think would win in a fight?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 9:32:06 GMT -5
I always thought it was Foxheart, but you make some good points there. Talltail and Shrewclaw became friends in the end, though, and even though it got violent, I got the sense that the two wouldn't let the other die if they came across a ShadowClan patrol or something. Foxheart and Yellowfang's rivalry seemed more dangerous, though. That's a good point I like the ending of Tallstar's Revenge, when Tallstar was like: I'll help you kill him. I'm glad they didn't kill sweet Cedarstar though. I love Cedarstar <3
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Post by Wildbriar on Oct 7, 2019 9:35:59 GMT -5
I always thought it was Foxheart, but you make some good points there. Talltail and Shrewclaw became friends in the end, though, and even though it got violent, I got the sense that the two wouldn't let the other die if they came across a ShadowClan patrol or something. Foxheart and Yellowfang's rivalry seemed more dangerous, though. That's a good point I like the ending of Tallstar's Revenge, when Tallstar was like: I'll help you kill him. I'm glad they didn't kill sweet Cedarstar though. I love Cedarstar <3 I don't really remember Shrewclaw's death scene and the interaction between him and Talltail, but I do think it was touching. Remember, Yellowfang and Foxheart never reconciled in the end. And Tall and Shrew never seemed like full-blown enemies to me. Yeah, Cedarstar's a good egg. I like him better than Heatherstar
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 9:43:28 GMT -5
That's a good point I like the ending of Tallstar's Revenge, when Tallstar was like: I'll help you kill him. I'm glad they didn't kill sweet Cedarstar though. I love Cedarstar <3 I don't really remember Shrewclaw's death scene and the interaction between him and Talltail, but I do think it was touching. Remember, Yellowfang and Foxheart never reconciled in the end. And Tall and Shrew never seemed like full-blown enemies to me. Yeah, Cedarstar's a good egg. I like him better than Heatherstar That is true about Tallstar and Shrewclaw never seeming like full blown enemies. From what I gathered from Shrewclaw's death, he was attacking Cedarstar, and Newtspeck (I think her name is, Littlecloud's mother) pulls him off, and suddenly, he's somehow bleeding out on the grass. Poor Foxheart got owned by rats. As for Cedarstar, I liked him better than Heatherstar too, who was a little annoying with how OBVIOUSLY she hated tunneling. I felt soo bad for the tunnelers. I liked Stonetooth better than Reedfeather as well (though, he didn't really do much in Tallstars' Revenge that I can remember)
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Oct 7, 2019 18:48:20 GMT -5
Shrewclaw eventually made up with Tallstar, and I don't think he meant to be quite as malicious as he was
Foxheart is just gross.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 19:01:09 GMT -5
Shrewclaw eventually made up with Tallstar, and I don't think he meant to be quite as malicious as he was Foxheart is just gross. That is true Maybe Shrewclaw was just oblivious or something
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Post by Wildbriar on Oct 7, 2019 20:47:39 GMT -5
Shrewclaw eventually made up with Tallstar, and I don't think he meant to be quite as malicious as he was Foxheart is just gross. That is true Maybe Shrewclaw was just oblivious or something He was oblivious. There was that scene where Shrewclaw said something like, "You took it that seriously? I was just teasing!" I think Talltail almost bit his head off with that, but he deserved it. If he really didn't realize how miserable he'd made Talltail's life then boy, was he dumb, or rabbit-brained, I should say
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 20:51:15 GMT -5
That is true Maybe Shrewclaw was just oblivious or something He was oblivious. There was that scene where Shrewclaw said something like, "You took it that seriously? I was just teasing!" I think Talltail almost bit his head off with that, but he deserved it. If he really didn't realize how miserable he'd made Talltail's life then boy, was he dumb, or rabbit-brained, I should say Yeah, I could see how it could be teasing, my brother has the same sense of humor, if he likes you, he'll insult you, it's just the kind of person he is, he doesn't mean anything by it. However, he'd never tell someone that no one would miss them if they disappeared, like Shrewclaw did with Talltail, especially not as a joke.
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Post by Wildbriar on Oct 7, 2019 20:54:14 GMT -5
He was oblivious. There was that scene where Shrewclaw said something like, "You took it that seriously? I was just teasing!" I think Talltail almost bit his head off with that, but he deserved it. If he really didn't realize how miserable he'd made Talltail's life then boy, was he dumb, or rabbit-brained, I should say Yeah, I could see how it could be teasing, my brother has the same sense of humor, if he likes you, he'll insult you, it's just the kind of person he is, he doesn't mean anything by it. However, he'd never tell someone that no one would miss them if they disappeared, like Shrewclaw did with Talltail, especially not as a joke. Sibling teasing is a totally different thing imo. I have a bro and sis, so I know what it's like. Shrewclaw, in his apparent oblivion took it waaaay too far. Remember how he unsheathed his claws when he and Talltail were training? He was just a bully, plain and simple.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 21:01:35 GMT -5
Yeah, I could see how it could be teasing, my brother has the same sense of humor, if he likes you, he'll insult you, it's just the kind of person he is, he doesn't mean anything by it. However, he'd never tell someone that no one would miss them if they disappeared, like Shrewclaw did with Talltail, especially not as a joke. Sibling teasing is a totally different thing imo. I have a bro and sis, so I know what it's like. Shrewclaw, in his apparent oblivion took it waaaay too far. Remember how he unsheathed his claws when he and Talltail were training? He was just a bully, plain and simple. He does it with his friends too Yeah, that is true, I think maybe he felt insecure or something? There was someone on here, who made a joke about Shrewclaw having unrequited feelings of love for Tallstar XD Imagine how differently things would have turned out, if Shrewclaw x Tallstar was a thing lol
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Post by Wildbriar on Oct 7, 2019 21:05:09 GMT -5
Sibling teasing is a totally different thing imo. I have a bro and sis, so I know what it's like. Shrewclaw, in his apparent oblivion took it waaaay too far. Remember how he unsheathed his claws when he and Talltail were training? He was just a bully, plain and simple. He does it with his friends too Yeah, that is true, I think maybe he felt insecure or something? There was someone on here, who made a joke about Shrewclaw having unrequited feelings of love for Tallstar XD Imagine how differently things would have turned out, if Shrewclaw x Tallstar was a thing lol Oh God please don't inflict me with those visions XD
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 21:10:47 GMT -5
He does it with his friends too Yeah, that is true, I think maybe he felt insecure or something? There was someone on here, who made a joke about Shrewclaw having unrequited feelings of love for Tallstar XD Imagine how differently things would have turned out, if Shrewclaw x Tallstar was a thing lol Oh God please don't inflict me with those visions XD XD I think Shrewclaw x Sandgorse would have been a better fit tbh, they're both brats
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 7, 2019 21:10:55 GMT -5
Shrewclaw I found to be alot less annoying and he was starting to become more mature before he died. Then there are also certain circumstances you have to consider, like growing up during internal tension in WindClan and also losing his mother at a young age. He also didn't think he was doing anything wrong when Talltail said he was leaving.
Not saying this should excuse anything (in fact, I found him to be more cruel than Foxheart when he said that no one would care if Tallpaw died, even if he was speaking out of grief), but I still think it's interesting to think about.
Foxheart on the other hand didn't really serve any purpose in the story other than to be jealous of Yellowfang and pose as Brokenstar's possible mother (which she never confirmed nor denied). Overall, I really found her rivalry with Yellowfang in general to be incredibly petty. She was also just really arrogant in general, and the worst part is that it was completely unnecessary. The book could've easily had Foxheart be in love with Raggedstar without her living up to her name and nothing would've changed!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 21:12:52 GMT -5
Shrewclaw I found to be alot less annoying and he was starting to become more mature before he died. Then there are also certain circumstances you have to consider, like growing up during internal tension in WindClan and also losing his mother at a young age. He also didn't think he was doing anything wrong when Talltail said he was leaving. Not saying this should excuse anything (in fact, I found him to be more cruel than Foxheart when he said that no one would care if Tallpaw died, even if he was speaking out of grief), but I still think it's interesting to think about. Foxheart on the other hand didn't really serve any purpose in the story other than to be jealous of Yellowfang and pose as Brokenstar's possible mother (which she never confirmed nor denied). Overall, I really found their rivalry with Yellowfang in general to be incredibly petty. She was also just really arrogant in general, and the worst part is that it was completely unnecessary. The book could've easily had Foxheart be in love with Raggedstar without her living up to her name and nothing would've changed! Yeah, that is true about Foxheart, she had such a lame and quick death too. I agree about Shrewclaw, I actually made a whole post about him a few days ago, wondering if people might be a bit too hard on him.
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Post by Wildbriar on Oct 7, 2019 21:18:04 GMT -5
Oh God please don't inflict me with those visions XD XD I think Shrewclaw x Sandgorse would have been a better fit tbh, they're both brats True, that XD
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 21:21:24 GMT -5
XD I think Shrewclaw x Sandgorse would have been a better fit tbh, they're both brats True, that XD But I ship Shrewclaw x Ryestalk all the way, because otherwise this sweet boy wouldn't exist
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Post by Wildbriar on Oct 7, 2019 21:25:23 GMT -5
But I ship Shrewclaw x Ryestalk all the way, because otherwise this sweet boy wouldn't exist I shipped them too, actually, because I thought it was sweet (especially that scene when Talltail comes back to the Clan and Shrew and Rye's pelts were brushing and their whiskers were touching; that was ooey-gooey all the way) and showed that there just might be more to Shrewclaw than the WindClan brat that took up Sandygorse's position (tho he was bratty as a kit when Sandgorse was alive too). Sorry, you obviously feel strongly about this, but who were Shrew x Rye's kit/s again?? I forgot
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 21:27:09 GMT -5
But I ship Shrewclaw x Ryestalk all the way, because otherwise this sweet boy wouldn't exist I shipped them too, actually, because I thought it was sweet (especially that scene when Talltail comes back to the Clan and Shrew and Rye's pelts were brushing and their whiskers were touching; that was ooey-gooey all the way) and showed that there just might be more to Shrewclaw than the WindClan brat that took up Sandygorse's position (tho he was bratty as a kit when Sandgorse was alive too). Sorry, you obviously feel strongly about this, but who were Shrew x Rye's kit/s again?? I forgot I thought it was kinda funny, how Talltail was basically shipping them, before he even knew, it was like seeing two people standing next to each other, and assuming they're together lol. Their kids are Mudclaw and Tornear
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Post by Wildbriar on Oct 7, 2019 21:44:35 GMT -5
I shipped them too, actually, because I thought it was sweet (especially that scene when Talltail comes back to the Clan and Shrew and Rye's pelts were brushing and their whiskers were touching; that was ooey-gooey all the way) and showed that there just might be more to Shrewclaw than the WindClan brat that took up Sandygorse's position (tho he was bratty as a kit when Sandgorse was alive too). Sorry, you obviously feel strongly about this, but who were Shrew x Rye's kit/s again?? I forgot I thought it was kinda funny, how Talltail was basically shipping them, before he even knew, it was like seeing two people standing next to each other, and assuming they're together lol. Their kids are Mudclaw and Tornear lol also true Tornear? I don't think there's much use for him in the books except for the position *that cat* in enemy border patrols. Or maybe I'm misremembering. Yet there seems to be a cult following for him
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 21:54:58 GMT -5
I thought it was kinda funny, how Talltail was basically shipping them, before he even knew, it was like seeing two people standing next to each other, and assuming they're together lol. Their kids are Mudclaw and Tornear lol also true Tornear? I don't think there's much use for him in the books except for the position *that cat* in enemy border patrols. Or maybe I'm misremembering. Yet there seems to be a cult following for him Really? I need to join this cult following XD I love Tornear, because a quote he said in the first series stuck out to me the most The quote is.. "You’re young. But something tells me you’ll make a fine leader. We’ll tell Tallstar your news. May StarClan be with you!" There's also another scene in The New Prophecy, where Whitepaw (Whitewing) is scared or horses, and he reassures her, which I think is really sweet, considering she's from another clan. Tornear does get into scuffles when cats trespass onto his territory, and he is mouthy, like when he was mocking Leafpool while she was trying to explain things to Onestar, and I think he also mocked Graystripe once. But he's no where near aggressive as his brother. He also mentored Harestar, so there's that.
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