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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 18:40:08 GMT -5
Do you think he should have been more gentle to Alderheart and Twigbranch, or is he fine the way he is?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 18:42:24 GMT -5
He was born an a-hole, he'll die an a-hole, while I think he should have been nicer to Twigbranch and Alderheart, I don't think it'd fit his personality very well.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 19, 2019 18:44:20 GMT -5
He should've, though I don't really blame him for at least getting annoyed that Twigkit was in the medicine den, considering: a) he's blind ![B)](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/FCb_E4d8JMUDG3m8s9xv.gif) kits don't belong in the medicine cat den unless they're sick c) she could've gotten in the way or eaten something she wasn't supposed to (similar to how Snowkit ate poppy seeds) d) Alderpaw could've gotten distracted between listening to Jayfeather and making sure Twigkit was okay Luckily Briarlight was around to keep her busy.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Jun 19, 2019 18:46:01 GMT -5
It would have been nice if he was, but that's not Jayfeather.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 19, 2019 18:47:17 GMT -5
He really should've. But then again he's characterized to be an ass from the start, it'd probably be a lot to ask from him.
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Post by morningflower on Jun 19, 2019 18:53:58 GMT -5
He really should have been nicer to Twigkit, but as Mothflight said, it was both dangerous and obstructive to have Twigkit be in the medicine den all the time. Particularly as the Clan cats were hardly ever truly accommodating of Jayfeather's disability (being condescending and tip-toeing around discussing his blindness doesn't count), I would also find it frustrating to have the boundaries he puts in place disrespected.
I don't think he was always the best mentor to Alderheart, and there were definitely times he was too snappy with him, but he also recognised when Alderheart needed softness and genuine encouragement, so it wasn't all bad. It was a much more interesting mentor-apprentice relationship to read about.
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Post by Haze on Jun 19, 2019 19:05:21 GMT -5
He don't need to be nicer, he just need not to be an *sshole. That commentary about Squirrelflight in TRS was unnecessary.
And he is getting worse in the new arc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 19:05:55 GMT -5
He don't need to be nicer, he just need not to be an *sshole. That commentary about Squirrelflight in TRS was unnecessary. And he is getting worse in the new arc. What did he say about Squirrelflight?
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Post by kinkajou on Jun 19, 2019 19:06:02 GMT -5
I can see both sides about Twigkit but at the very least he should've been more sympathetic. And he should have been WAY nicer to Alderpaw
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Post by Pixie on Jun 19, 2019 19:13:03 GMT -5
He don't need to be nicer, he just need not to be an *sshole. That commentary about Squirrelflight in TRS was unnecessary. And he is getting worse in the new arc. What did he say about Squirrelflight? I think they meant LS. I literally read the book yesterday and I can barely remember, but I think he blamed Squirrelflight for Bramblestar’s death and scowled at the fact she wanted to stay as an acting leader.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 19:14:39 GMT -5
What did he say about Squirrelflight? I think they meant LS. I literally read the book yesterday and I can barely remember, but I think he blamed Squirrelflight for Bramblestar’s death and scowled at the fact she wanted to stay as an acting leader. What? That's ridiculous. How is it her fault?
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Post by Pixie on Jun 19, 2019 19:20:59 GMT -5
I think they meant LS. I literally read the book yesterday and I can barely remember, but I think he blamed Squirrelflight for Bramblestar’s death and scowled at the fact she wanted to stay as an acting leader. What? That's ridiculous. How is it her fault? She went along with Shadowpaw and Jayfeather probably holds her personally responsible because she was his mate.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 19:25:00 GMT -5
What? That's ridiculous. How is it her fault? She went along with Shadowpaw and Jayfeather probably holds her personally responsible because she was his mate. Ohhh, that makes sense, it doesn't make it right though
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Post by Skypaw13 on Jun 19, 2019 19:27:01 GMT -5
For some reason, AVoS and TBC are really bad about handling previous protagonists, whether it be making them severely out of character like Jayfeather, or throwing them into obscurity like Lionblaze and Ivypool. Jayfeather is still and always will be my favorite character because of Po3, but lately I find his behavior really unsettling, especially in LS. I think he was okay in AVoS. It seemed like Alderheart was trained primarily by Leafpool, though.
I don't think he necessarily should have been nicer to Twigbranch and Alderheart. Mothwing (and everyone) in LS, yes. But in AVoS, no.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jun 19, 2019 19:43:35 GMT -5
He don't need to be nicer, he just need not to be an *sshole. That commentary about Squirrelflight in TRS was unnecessary. And he is getting worse in the new arc. What did he say about Squirrelflight? Just to clarify, it was not in LS, it was in TRS. Jayfeather mentions "falling in love with the wrong cats" and directs his words at SQUIRRELFLIGHT and Leafpool I think, or it was probably just Squirrel, not JUST Leafpool. You'd think he's direct it at JUST the latter but no Squirrelflight is added to the equation for SOME reason even though she was not the one that had a doubly forbidden relationship that had such a ripple effect for years in the books. :/// I was like... REALLY JAYFEATHER???
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 19:47:09 GMT -5
What did he say about Squirrelflight? Just to clarify, it was not in LS, it was in TRS. Jayfeather mentions "falling in love with the wrong cats" and directs his words at SQUIRRELFLIGHT and Leafpool I think, or it was probably just Squirrel, not JUST Leafpool. You'd think he's direct it at JUST the latter but no Squirrelflight is added to the equation for SOME reason even though she was not the one that had a doubly forbidden relationship that had such a ripple effect for years in the books. :/// I was like... REALLY JAYFEATHER??? Wowww what a jerk
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Post by Featherwind on Jun 20, 2019 15:40:14 GMT -5
I think his attitude towards Alderheart was okay, like I can see Alderheart might have required a more gentle approach, but Jayfeather’s tough love (?) was able to bring out the best side of Alder’s talent. And Jay did give Alder the encouragement and appreciation he needed — the moment in TAS where Jay commented on Alder’s confrontation against other clans was one of my favorite mentor-student moments in the whole series. (Also I think the presence of Leafpool balanced out Jay’s critics so Alder turned out fine)
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Post by Protractor on Jun 20, 2019 21:14:19 GMT -5
No
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Post by sonnensturm1 on Jun 21, 2019 7:00:43 GMT -5
No, since it would be OOC of him. And like people said, Leafpool balanced it out. I remember that Twigbranch says somewhere that she used to always roam the medicine-cat den, which sounds like she accepts that kits don't belong there. So Jayfeather was right to keep her away. Or it was similar to that atleast.
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Post by Scotus on Jun 21, 2019 16:55:20 GMT -5
He was born an a-hole, he'll die an a-hole, while I think he should have been nicer to Twigbranch and Alderheart, I don't think it'd fit his personality very well. Sounds like me ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/Zk1a5XUEHw6Q8FG1L5Qy.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 16:56:58 GMT -5
He was born an a-hole, he'll die an a-hole, while I think he should have been nicer to Twigbranch and Alderheart, I don't think it'd fit his personality very well. Sounds like me ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/Zk1a5XUEHw6Q8FG1L5Qy.gif) Same XD
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