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Post by scint on Mar 26, 2019 3:30:15 GMT -5
Mainly because this question has been itching to be answered for awhile now. Do you think that instead of cats being called pale ginger, that they should be called cream instead? Cats like Sandstorm and Goldenflower are considered pale ginger, yet cream seems to fit their description better since cream is basically a diluted ginger, like "pale ginger".
What bothers me the most is that they use the cream description as well, like with Berrynose and Daisy, who often come to mind. This wouldn't be as much as an annoyance for me if they stuck with one of the two, but I would prefer them using cream.
Your thoughts?
(And yes I have been wondering this since I first started the series which was when I was in 4th grade so a long time I have been wondering this)
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Post by Brindlefern on Mar 26, 2019 3:34:41 GMT -5
YES! Because there's no point in them using "pale ginger" as a descriptor if they also use CREAM, which is the actual PROPER term for dilute/pale ginger cats!
It was always a pet peeve of mine, dare I say an uber one with this series descriptions despite it being minor, that they would call some cats "pale ginger" when "cream" would've fit the descriptor better, and even when they DO use "cream" as a descriptor, they don't even call other cats with the "pale ginger" description cream. They're both the same thing for god damn kitty hell's sake, so unless they were using them interchangeably, which they CLEARLY weren't, there's no point in having both.
It's a lot like how they started using "yellow" as a descriptor even though "YELLOW" CATS ARE JUST LIGHTER GINGER (Not exactly cream, you can tell the difference through a search, plus Messybeast has a helpful chart of the non-dilute ginger ranges). THEY'RE. GINGER. JUST SAY THEY'RE GINGER (Or at least "light ginger" or something but anything but "yellow" like... seriously).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 5:00:52 GMT -5
yes.
"pale ginger" doesn't bother me as much as "yellow" though. The way I see it, yellow is cream, just a really bad way of describing it. Tree, Fernsong, Rootpaw, etc are all cream in my eyes, because there's really no other reason not to call them ginger if that were the case.
Besides, the non-dilute ginger ranges that messybeast provides (sandy/lemon/marmalade/apricot) none of them look truly yellow. On their charts they do, but google those variations and the differences are very very subtle. If you saw an apricot ginger cat on the street, you would just assume its ginger. it doesn't look yellow at all, same goes for the other variations. thats why I believe yellow is supposed to be cream.
its hard to know for sure though, because there's no such thing as an actually yellow cat and I'm convinced the editor who came up with that term just envisioned it in their head and decided "yes this is a real thing".
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Post by dashingshadows on Mar 26, 2019 5:28:51 GMT -5
Maybe The thing is, these words have different connotations Pale ginger would appear indicate a more saturated cream, while cream on its own appears to indicate that they’re almost white But they do all appear to be different words for the same color, just with slightly different connotations to indicate shade
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Post by lollycat on Mar 26, 2019 7:55:49 GMT -5
I think that the pale ginger is between orange and cream color. Pale ginger is darker than cream because cream is almost white,
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Post by CRASHPAW on Mar 26, 2019 8:26:00 GMT -5
For me I usually imagine pale ginger cats as being tabbies, and cream cats being solid colored. It makes no sense but hey
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Post by infernoMarshmallow on Mar 26, 2019 9:25:18 GMT -5
For me I usually imagine pale ginger cats as being tabbies, and cream cats being solid colored. It makes no sense but hey yeah, me too. i imagine sandstorm as a "pale ginger" but with stripes (like my cat), but berrynose (since he's a cream) is just one color which is cream/"pale ginger".
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Post by Hawkflower on Mar 26, 2019 9:45:40 GMT -5
I see them as two different colors. Then again, I’m not a cat person and I know next to nothing about cats, so if these color can describe one cat’s pelt, then it makes since.
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Post by wolfcry32 on Mar 26, 2019 10:21:35 GMT -5
To me there’s a difference between the ginger spectrum, just on how they sound to me:
You have your ‘dark’ gingers, which may have a brown-tint You have your ‘medium’ gingers, which are where your fiery colored cats come in You have ‘pale’ gingers, where you can still tell they’re distinctly ginger
Then you have cream colored cats. They border an extremely fine line between white and ginger, sometimes even looking like a light tan color.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Mar 26, 2019 15:42:36 GMT -5
To me they look like two different colors, so probably not.
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