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Post by streamflower on Mar 10, 2019 23:26:14 GMT -5
I think it'll be Ashfur, Sol, or they'll just retcon the controversial character idea. They've done it before with Bramblestar when they said he wouldn't be leader, so I would't be surprised if they took out the controversial character this overall since it's been so long since that's been confirmed.
That being said, I genuinely think it'll be Sol or Trashfur.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 23:32:25 GMT -5
i just hope its not Sol. that dude is so boring
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Post by copperfur on Mar 10, 2019 23:56:47 GMT -5
My guess is Sol.
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Post by scint on Mar 11, 2019 0:33:04 GMT -5
Honestly, I hope it'll be none of the above. Either make it a different controversial character or make it instead be a new character.
Maybe Sleekwhisker and/or Darktail's Kin.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 7:32:56 GMT -5
I'm thinking that Sol might still have some unfinished business with the Clans. Now that SkyClan's living at the lake with the other Clans, he'll really want to rain some vengeance down on them. So I'm gonna go with Sol returning.
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Post by ~Ƈαммι-`ღ´- on Mar 11, 2019 14:18:09 GMT -5
If Sol and/or Ashfur have nothing to do with it I'll be super-disappointed.
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Post by Rio on Mar 11, 2019 19:04:09 GMT -5
Genuinely, I'll be kinda surprised if it is Ashfur or Sol? They happened so long ago that it would feel kind of outdated to bring them back? Like if they do then that's totally ok but those are just my thoughts.
My bet goes to Juniperclaw(they never found a body?) or Sleekwhisker or something.
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Post by Sea Drops by a Bird on Mar 11, 2019 19:14:13 GMT -5
I honestly don't know because I haven't read past OOTS, but if there's one thing I learned it's that the fandom is usually right. And Ashfur is probably the most controversial cat, from the 'could be a love triangle' with him, Squirrel and Bramble to his lazy af vendetta against her (I mean I've never seen a cat claim to be so consumed with hatred that he would attempt to kill her kits a year after they're month long situationship ended but do nothing else or plan nothing to get revenge) to his death, and placement in StarClan. I'm sure there are some of you getting your fingers ready just because i called it a love triangle and said situationship.
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Post by Sea Drops by a Bird on Mar 11, 2019 19:15:47 GMT -5
Although I do wish it were a new character instead, or a current character moving from the background to the spotlight- none of the typical suspects are really all that interesting that I'd want to see them again as the antagonist for 6 books.
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Post by Protractor on Mar 11, 2019 19:51:21 GMT -5
I think it'll be Sol or someone of relation to him.The name of the Arc is "The Broken Code" which will most likely have something to do with Starclan.And who's our favorite Starclan hater.
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Post by なんで私 on Mar 11, 2019 20:18:27 GMT -5
Either Sol or Ashfur. I'm leaning towards more of the Sol side mostly because I love that guy.
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Post by Tas on Mar 12, 2019 8:38:49 GMT -5
I just think that Sol is too old, and if the controversial character has beef with Bramblestar it's a lot more likely that it would be Ashfur.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 10:04:44 GMT -5
The only way I could see Ashfur "returning" is if he... uh... well... gives Squirrelflight a life if Bramblestar dies and she succeeds him. Which would be... interesting to say the least but I think that's the most he would do.
I think Sol's more likely simply because for one he thrives under conditions where the clans either lose connection to StarClan, face a crisis in their leadership, or both, and it seems like those things are likely to both happen this series and like Patriot said SkyClan's back so that'll also interest him. All the conditions would be perfect for him to return.
And while on one hand one might say "but he already was rejected before they will reject him again"... pretty much all of the other clans don't know him cause most of the cats who knew him have died for the most part- and even though ThunderClan still has a lot of cats who remember him- I wouldn't put it past them to not forget some cats should have known better like how they had Thornclaw in the dark forest. But even if ThunderClan in general know better the other clans would be fair game to him simply because most of them don’t know him.
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Post by kinkajou on Mar 12, 2019 16:13:28 GMT -5
I genuinely don't understand why people think Ashfur is going to reappear after being gone and forgot about for a while, and absolutely don't understand why they think Mapleshade is going to show up out of nowhere. Ashfur makes some small amount of sense I guess but Maleshade?? Why?? Not being rude, just don't get it at all? For Ashfur... - Controversial character - Hates Squirrelflight (who's getting a SE) and Bramblestar (who's going to be important in The Silent Thaw)
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Post by Sea Drops by a Bird on Mar 12, 2019 20:37:20 GMT -5
Like is there really no one else it could be? Someone from the arc after OOTS? maybe it's Rock. I just have no desire to see Sol or Ashfur because honestly, they were never compelling enough as villains to be anything more than filler, and I don't see how that can change without completely overhauling their stories/character. Sol has only ever managed to temporarily derail the clans before they ousted him and Ashfur might be the laziest villain ever- he literally waited until StarClan dumped a revenge plot in his lap before he decided to act out his need for revenge against Squirrelflight.
I just think a fresh face is the best way to go. Tigerstar was a great villain because he actually got stuff done, and he was pretty good at besting Fireheart up until it really mattered. It was the only reason we tolerated the fact that he continued to be the villain for the next 3 arcs despite being dead.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Mar 12, 2019 20:47:13 GMT -5
Sol is too boring, Mapleshade is most likely dead gone now, so it'll probably be...Ashfur...?
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