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Post by foxfox12 on Mar 6, 2019 17:58:48 GMT -5
I was just rereading The Last Hope and I figured I'd ask you all to see if you have any ideas on some missing families from TLH.
- We know from Mistystar's Omen that Duskfur's kits are Podlight and Curlfeather. But who is the father?
- Mosspelt is a queen so she probably has a litter of kits. Who are the kits and who is the father?
- Heronwing is a relatively new apprentice. Who are his parents?
- Night Whispers tells us that Ivytail has her first (and last) litter of kits. Who are the kits and who is the father?
- It also tells us (and Thunder and Shadow confirms) that Kinkfur is the mother of Dewkit, Mistcloud, and Sparrowtail. But who is the father?
- Crouchfoot is a new apprentice. Who are his parents?\
- Pinenose is seen with her dead kit. Who is the father?
Here are some of my boring headcanons. I'd love to hear some of yours! - Duskfur and Reedwhisker had Podlight and Curlfeather.
- Mosspelt had Heronwing with a loner.
- Ivytail and (??) had Spikefur and Grassheart
- Kinkfur and Ratscar had Dewkit, Mistcloud, and Sparrowtail.
- Crouchfoot was a loner kit who was adopted by Sedgewhisker and Emberfoot.
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Post by Mau Furlong on Mar 31, 2019 10:11:40 GMT -5
Anyother missing parents??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 13:57:35 GMT -5
I think you'll find Su's Missing kits helpful: https://www.reddit.com/r/thedawnpatrol/comments/67k50i/missing_kits/
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Post by streamflower on Mar 31, 2019 14:16:56 GMT -5
Su's missing kits was decanonized^
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 14:27:09 GMT -5
Su's missing kits was decanonized^ Soft of? They're reused a lot of Su's parents/kits in the official Warriors Family Tree. They just haven't reconfirmed everything else like unseen deaths. And anyway, Su's headcanons/answers hold more water then headcanons we come up with. For the purposes of fanfictions, it's a lot easier just to use Missing Kits, instead of sending time trying to come up with a whole other Headcanon family tree. Especially since Su so thorough with her research, she's more accurate then the Erins.
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Post by streamflower on Mar 31, 2019 14:48:09 GMT -5
Su's missing kits was decanonized^ Soft of? They're reused a lot of Su's parents/kits in the official Warriors Family Tree. They just haven't reconfirmed everything else like unseen deaths. And anyway, Su's headcanons/answers hold more water then headcanons we come up with. For the purposes of fanfictions, it's a lot easier just to use Missing Kits, instead of sending time trying to come up with a whole other Headcanon family tree. Especially since Su so thorough with her research, she's more accurate then the Erins. It wasn't "sort of" decanonized, Vicky decanonized it. The editors seem to have used some things but not all. But because Vicky deconfirmed it, no, Su's headcanons do not hold more water, they're no better than fanfiction unless directly adopted by the new editors on the website. And it may be easier to use the Missing Kits thing, but it doesn't make it any more or less accurate. Saying Su is more accurate than the Erins is false though. Vicky literally deconfirmed what she made up, so I don't understand why you think a superfan is more accurate than the writers themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 14:53:11 GMT -5
Soft of? They're reused a lot of Su's parents/kits in the official Warriors Family Tree. They just haven't reconfirmed everything else like unseen deaths. And anyway, Su's headcanons/answers hold more water then headcanons we come up with. For the purposes of fanfictions, it's a lot easier just to use Missing Kits, instead of sending time trying to come up with a whole other Headcanon family tree. Especially since Su so thorough with her research, she's more accurate then the Erins. It wasn't "sort of" decanonized, Vicky decanonized it. The editors seem to have used some things but not all. But because Vicky deconfirmed it, no, Su's headcanons do not hold more water, they're no better than fanfiction unless directly adopted by the new editors on the website. And it may be easier to use the Missing Kits thing, but it doesn't make it any more or less accurate. Saying Su is more accurate than the Erins is false though. Vicky literally deconfirmed what she made up, so I don't understand why you think a superfan is more accurate than the writers themselves. It's because the Writers constantly clash against themselves like whether Heathertail was lying for example. At least Su strictly sticks to the Books, usually using Chapter/Page references. Also, Su is more then a superfan, she's an editor, as she proof read some of Vicky's Warriors Books.
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Post by streamflower on Mar 31, 2019 14:59:45 GMT -5
It wasn't "sort of" decanonized, Vicky decanonized it. The editors seem to have used some things but not all. But because Vicky deconfirmed it, no, Su's headcanons do not hold more water, they're no better than fanfiction unless directly adopted by the new editors on the website. And it may be easier to use the Missing Kits thing, but it doesn't make it any more or less accurate. Saying Su is more accurate than the Erins is false though. Vicky literally deconfirmed what she made up, so I don't understand why you think a superfan is more accurate than the writers themselves. It's because the Writers constantly clash against themselves like whether Heathertail was lying for example. At least Su strictly sticks to the Books, usually using Chapter/Page references. Also, Su is more then a superfan, she's an editor, as she proof read some of Vicky's Warriors Books. The writers clashing and having their own beliefs doesn't mean that what they're saying is wrong, it just means they're different writers? Also there's literally no evidences as to whether or not Heathertail lied in the books other than her saying she didn't so I don't know how Su can accurately use that as a references, especially considering characters lie all the time? And no, she's literally a superfan. Vicky clarifies it right here: www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10154859776267454&id=29566467453&comment_id=10154859913007454&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7DAlso, a (crappy) screenshot of Vicky confirmed that Su's ideas were never canon, while I find the actual post
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Mar 31, 2019 15:35:39 GMT -5
And Su is where I stopped liking and respecting Vicky. Even though she did a lot for the series, having a fan help her answer things and then toss her aside like she did is unacceptable.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Mar 31, 2019 17:39:22 GMT -5
Vicky said at the start that Missing Kits was canon. She only went back on her word because people were bullying her and Su. This is also right around when SH came out, so she was getting a lot of heat for that, as well as her departure from the editorial team. It appears that Vicky just decided to burn as many bridges as possible. tldr: Vicky's word is simply untrustworthy.
Anywho, back on topic.
Pouncetail-x-Shrewfoot= Ferretclaw, Pinenose, Starlingwing Owlclaw-x-Cloverfoot= Stoatfur Rainstorm-x-Kinkfur= Sparrowtail, Dewkit, Mistcloud Toadfoot-x-Ivytail= Spikefur, Grassheart Redwillow-x-Pinenose= Weaselkit Ferretclaw-x-Olivenose= Wasptail, Stonewing
Tornear-x-Thrushwing= Whiskernose Weaselfur-x-Dewspots= Furzepelt, Boulderfur Emberfoot-x-Sedgewhisker= Larkwing, Crouchfoot Leaftail-x-Thistleheart= Slightfoot, Oatclaw Weaselfur-x-Dewspots= Hootwhisker
Rainstorm-x-Pinefur= Troutstream, Mossyfoot, Hollowflight, Pikepaw Pebblefoot-x-Dapplenose= Rushtail, Duckpaw, Tanglepaw Voletooth-x-Duskfur= Podlight, Curlfeather Rippletail-x-Mosspelt= Heronwing, Shimmerpelt, Lakeheart Hollowflight-x-Rushtail= Lizardtail, Havenpelt, Perchwing
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Post by streamflower on Mar 31, 2019 18:07:11 GMT -5
Vicky said at the start that Missing Kits was canon. She only went back on her word because people were bullying her and Su. This is also right around when SH came out, so she was getting a lot of heat for that, as well as her departure from the editorial team. It appears that Vicky just decided to burn as many bridges as possible. tldr: Vicky's word is simply untrustworthy. Anywho, back on topic. Pouncetail-x-Shrewfoot= Ferretclaw, Pinenose, Starlingwing Owlclaw-x-Cloverfoot= Stoatfur Rainstorm-x-Kinkfur= Sparrowtail, Dewkit, Mistcloud Toadfoot-x-Ivytail= Spikefur, Grassheart Redwillow-x-Pinenose= Weaselkit Ferretclaw-x-Olivenose= Wasptail, Stonewing Tornear-x-Thrushwing= Whiskernose Weaselfur-x-Dewspots= Furzepelt, Boulderfur Emberfoot-x-Sedgewhisker= Larkwing, Crouchfoot Leaftail-x-Thistleheart= Slightfoot, Oatclaw Weaselfur-x-Dewspots= Hootwhisker Rainstorm-x-Pinefur= Troutstream, Mossyfoot, Hollowflight, Pikepaw Pebblefoot-x-Dapplenose= Rushtail, Duckpaw, Tanglepaw Voletooth-x-Duskfur= Podlight, Curlfeather Rippletail-x-Mosspelt= Heronwing, Shimmerpelt, Lakeheart Hollowflight-x-Rushtail= Lizardtail, Havenpelt, Perchwing If Vicky’s word is untrustworthy then we can’t trust the missing kits being canon either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That all being said, headcanons are fun OP so you choose what you want to do/believe
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