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Post by Mistybreeze on Feb 17, 2019 0:22:20 GMT -5
Title says it all. Who would die in your version of the battle?
Mine are:
Firestar Mousefur Ferncloud Briarlight Birchfall Cloudtail Brackenfur Berrynose Icecloud Lilykit Dewkit
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Post by scint on Feb 17, 2019 1:45:24 GMT -5
In order of Clan because damn it I want a proper purge (I have issues). I'll add in how the deaths happen in mine, too (when I feel like it, of course cause I'm lazy).
ThunderClan Firestar Brambleclaw Mousefur Briarlight Cloudtail Thornclaw Brightheart Spiderleg Bumblestripe Birchfall Dustpelt Graystripe Dewkit Amberkit
ShadowClan Oakfur Toadfoot Olivenose Shrewfoot Starlingwing Cedarheart Tallpoppy Snaketail Kinkfur Ratscar Blackstar
WindClan Owlwhisker Gorsetail Whitetail Leaftail Furzepelt Boulderfur Swallowtail Webfoot Tornear
RiverClan Mistystar Reedwhisker Graymist Troutstream Minnowtail Mintfur Rushtail Robinwing Petalfur Grasspelt Mosspelt Dapplenose Pouncetail
You know, I was tempted to add more cats but I decided not to.
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Post by tigersdoroar on Feb 17, 2019 4:17:26 GMT -5
If I'm being completely honest, after I finished the book I was super angry that only a few cats died. I was going to write a comic, and basically everyone was going to die except for Mousefur and Hollyleaf. I can't remember why I chose those two, but they were going to rebuild the clans and return the forest to the dark killer code of the old forest. I was an ambitious eighth grader, but all I ever made was a crappy cover page and the outline of the very first page.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 10:55:18 GMT -5
ThunderClan should have had waaaaay more causalities. The DF battle was really anticlimactic imo.
ThunderClan:
Firestar Brambleclaw Dustpelt Sandstorm Brackenfur Cloudtail Millie Spiderleg Whitewing Berrynose Lionblaze Foxleap Rosepetal Briarlight
Cherrypaw Ferncloud Daisy Sorreltail Seedkit Dewkit
Mousefur Purdy
ShadowClan:
Blackstar Rowanclaw Littlecloud Oakfur Owlclaw Ivytail Toadfoot Redwillow Starlingwing Snowbird Cedarheart Tallpoppy Snaketail Whitewater
WindClan:
Onestar Ashfoot Whitetail Crowfeather Owlwhisker Swallowtail Boulderfur Webfoot Tornear
RiverClan:
Mistystar Mothwing Mosspelt Pebblefoot Beetlewhisker Troutstream Rushtail Graymist
Pouncetail Dapplenose
I'm still salty af about Hollyleaf's death, Lionblaze or Brambleclaw should've died instead of her.
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Post by vectoring34 on Feb 17, 2019 11:04:23 GMT -5
The problem is that it'd be incredibly silly for the Dark Forest to rack up huge kill counts because they are grossly outnumbered. With how lax Starclan's standards are, you have to be reallllyyyyy bad to get into the Dark Forest and this means that they just don't have the numbers to get kills like this. It would come off as absurd, more absurd than when the Kin who was heavily outnumbered somehow beat back the clans. The Dark Forest's only recourse was to spread panic, fear, and confusion and drive them out with that; pure killing was never a realistic possibility.
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Post by halogen on Feb 18, 2019 15:50:54 GMT -5
The problem is that it'd be incredibly silly for the Dark Forest to rack up huge kill counts because they are grossly outnumbered. With how lax Starclan's standards are, you have to be reallllyyyyy bad to get into the Dark Forest and this means that they just don't have the numbers to get kills like this. It would come off as absurd, more absurd than when the Kin who was heavily outnumbered somehow beat back the clans. The Dark Forest's only recourse was to spread panic, fear, and confusion and drive them out with that; pure killing was never a realistic possibility. I feel like they could have made them work as a credible threat if they actually showed the training tremendously benefitting them rather than it turning out to be useless, had most of the apprentices stay (and give the DF a more persuasive reason to get apprentices to join than just "we will give you training, oh actually we're capital E Evil and we will take over the Clans and laugh evilly, and you will die if you refuse us but you are in a battle to the death anyway so that's not much of a threat" and relying on a very small number of cats with active murderous grudges against certain Clan cats, and definitely not making their valuable apprentices fight each other to the death just because it's an Evil Thing to Do), and got help from some kind of allies that would add numbers to the DF cats' skill.
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Post by vectoring34 on Feb 18, 2019 16:18:01 GMT -5
The problem is that it'd be incredibly silly for the Dark Forest to rack up huge kill counts because they are grossly outnumbered. With how lax Starclan's standards are, you have to be reallllyyyyy bad to get into the Dark Forest and this means that they just don't have the numbers to get kills like this. It would come off as absurd, more absurd than when the Kin who was heavily outnumbered somehow beat back the clans. The Dark Forest's only recourse was to spread panic, fear, and confusion and drive them out with that; pure killing was never a realistic possibility. I feel like they could have made them work as a credible threat if they actually showed the training tremendously benefitting them rather than it turning out to be useless, had most of the apprentices stay (and give the DF a more persuasive reason to get apprentices to join than just "we will give you training, oh actually we're capital E Evil and we will take over the Clans and laugh evilly, and you will die if you refuse us but you are in a battle to the death anyway so that's not much of a threat" and relying on a very small number of cats with active murderous grudges against certain Clan cats, and definitely not making their valuable apprentices fight each other to the death just because it's an Evil Thing to Do), and got help from some kind of allies that would add numbers to the DF cats' skill. They were a credible threat because they knew shock and awe and how to disrupt them from within. They were basically terrorists in that they don't need to win a drag down fight, just cause enough damage to kill the will to fight of their shocked enemy. What they aren't and shouldn't be are murderbots that people expect to slaughter like half the clans. That's just a ridiculous amount of losses; armies usually break around losing 30% of their number and an army is vastly more disciplined than a clan.
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Post by kinkajou on Feb 18, 2019 16:40:32 GMT -5
Everyone who already died plus Icecloud, Toadstep, Hazeltail, Mousewhisker, Brackenfur, and Briarlight
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Feb 18, 2019 20:09:26 GMT -5
Ehh...I agree with Vect. I mean the whole point of them training cats was to get more numbers on their sides. But during the battle, Ivypool did convince a few to fight for their clan. And also stopped some from turning traitor, like Breezepelt. I also feel like there should have been more deaths in ThunderClan, at least more significant ones, and not compensating with cats like Holly and Fire. But at the same time, they were the ones with the three in their clan, so I guess??
I'm still a firm believer that Lionblaze should have died over Hollyleaf.
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Post by Amber on Feb 18, 2019 20:58:24 GMT -5
(Only doing ThunderClan for this)
Firestar Brambleclaw Mousefur Lionblaze Blossomfall Thornclaw Hazeltail Foxleap Poppyfrost Berrynose
Have Hollyleaf live. Also Ferncloud and Sorreltail because the reasons for their deaths were stupid and they deserve to be happy with their mates.
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