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Post by Moonblazer on Jan 8, 2019 23:54:01 GMT -5
Oakheart and Bluefur/star The romance didn't make much sense since she was so against Snowfur and Thistleclaw being a thing and yet she hooked up with a tom from another Clan. Sorry this is getting rambly.She had more chemistry and interactions with Crookedjaw/star early on and the loss of Mosskit could've been a connection with Crooked's mistaken promise to Mapleshade and how she pulled the strings to have everything happen in the later arcs. Which also could've been a nice way to rope ThunderClan back into her cruel punishment since Bluestar ultimately got away with her cross clan affair. Even when she admitted to her surviving kits and Fireheart about it. Honestly, if there was ever a purpose to go back and rewrite the main series, making Mapleshade's Vengeance a deep plot point and prominent prequel could do the Warriors series a lot of good if only they made the underdog of RiverClan mix his already shaky loyalty with a lovestruck Bluefur before their growing love and dedication to their Clans eventually drew them apart, making the final time of their lives a faulty parallel to Mapleshade's. A RiverClan tom and ThunderClan queen fall in love. ThunderClan queen bears cross Clan kits. Kits fall victim to the affair. And RiverClan tom finds a new mate and deals with the fallout. I will always stan CrookedBlue
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Post by Brindlefern on Jan 9, 2019 0:23:08 GMT -5
Oakheart and Bluefur/star The romance didn't make much sense since she was so against Snowfur and Thistleclaw being a thing and yet she hooked up with a tom from another Clan. Sorry this is getting rambly.She had more chemistry and interactions with Crookedjaw/star early on and the loss of Mosskit could've been a connection with Crooked's mistaken promise to Mapleshade and how she pulled the strings to have everything happen in the later arcs. Which also could've been a nice way to rope ThunderClan back into her cruel punishment since Bluestar ultimately got away with her cross clan affair. Even when she admitted to her surviving kits and Fireheart about it. Honestly, if there was ever a purpose to go back and rewrite the main series, making Mapleshade's Vengeance a deep plot point and prominent prequel could do the Warriors series a lot of good if only they made the underdog of RiverClan mix his already shaky loyalty with a lovestruck Bluefur before their growing love and dedication to their Clans eventually drew them apart, making the final time of their lives a faulty parallel to Mapleshade's. A RiverClan tom and ThunderClan queen fall in love. ThunderClan queen bears cross Clan kits. Kits fall victim to the affair. And RiverClan tom finds a new mate and deals with the fallout. I'm all for the idea of CrookedBlue. While I love CrookedWillow, I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one to see Blue's chemistry with him. When they interacted on their first gathering I found them being ambitious together rather cute. And when I saw them talking to eachother more it was like "... Why wasn't it them that were paired up together instead?" I couldn't find the appeal of OakBlue in contrast the entire time I read BP. She's pretty clear about her dislike towards Oakheart at first, but then they end up staring at each other a few times and suddenly Bluefur wants to see him again, then next thing we know they have a one-night-stand and it just... feels all out of nowhere imo... Also it annoyed the hell out of me too that she didn't like her sister getting with Thistleclaw just because he's a cat she doesn't like :/, only to go around having a forbidden relationship later on. Snowfur knows to get with a cat WITHIN her clan in comparison at least. Ha.
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jan 9, 2019 10:28:36 GMT -5
Oakheart and Bluefur/star The romance didn't make much sense since she was so against Snowfur and Thistleclaw being a thing and yet she hooked up with a tom from another Clan. Sorry this is getting rambly.She had more chemistry and interactions with Crookedjaw/star early on and the loss of Mosskit could've been a connection with Crooked's mistaken promise to Mapleshade and how she pulled the strings to have everything happen in the later arcs. Which also could've been a nice way to rope ThunderClan back into her cruel punishment since Bluestar ultimately got away with her cross clan affair. Even when she admitted to her surviving kits and Fireheart about it. Honestly, if there was ever a purpose to go back and rewrite the main series, making Mapleshade's Vengeance a deep plot point and prominent prequel could do the Warriors series a lot of good if only they made the underdog of RiverClan mix his already shaky loyalty with a lovestruck Bluefur before their growing love and dedication to their Clans eventually drew them apart, making the final time of their lives a faulty parallel to Mapleshade's. A RiverClan tom and ThunderClan queen fall in love. ThunderClan queen bears cross Clan kits. Kits fall victim to the affair. And RiverClan tom finds a new mate and deals with the fallout. I'm all for the idea of CrookedBlue. While I love CrookedWillow, I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one to see Blue's chemistry with him. When they interacted on their first gathering I found them being ambitious together rather cute. And when I saw them talking to eachother more it was like "... Why wasn't it them that were paired up together instead?" I couldn't find the appeal of OakBlue in contrast the entire time I read BP. She's pretty clear about her dislike towards Oakheart at first, but then they end up staring at each other a few times and suddenly Bluefur wants to see him again, then next thing we know they have a one-night-stand and it just... feels all out of nowhere imo... Whenever I read BP, I always feel like the relationship is a bit more complicated than the book lets on. Bluefur clearly had an attraction to him for awhile and we already know that Oakheart genuinely loved her, but she had a duty to her Clan. And that's probably what attracted her to him in the first place: Oakheart represented safety as well as representing a life she could've had if she wasn't the subject a prophecy and suffering so much. Bluefur had to grow up quickly after Moonflower died and never really had a normal life compared to the rest of her Clanmates. When Oakheart wants to meet up, she even addresses that they barely know each other, but she eventually agrees and she can just be herself around him rather than always focusing on protecting her Clan and fulfilling the prophecy. Dovewing may have met up with Tigerheart for similar reasons. What's interesting is that both Bluefur and Oakheart only planned to meet each other for one night, unlike other forbidden couples who tried to make it work. BP also has alot of timeskips and it takes until chapter sixteen for Bluefur to finally become a warrior, so who knows what could've happened in the things we didn't see. For example, the first time Oakheart actually interacts with Bluefur in the book, she already views him as arrogant, so something must've happened for her to suddenly see him this way before falling for him. There's a saying that goes "you never know what you've got until it's gone," and I think this can somewhat apply to Bluestar when it comes to her relationship with Oakheart. She clearly cared for him and even tells herself that she never stopped loving him towards the end of the book, but a part of me likes to think that these feelings of love didn't surface until after she had given him up for the final time, when she brought him their kits. Prior to this, it was probably more akin attraction and lust at best—not necessarily towards just Oakheart himself, but more towards that simple life she desired to have deep down. And so when she died, she had the rest of her life in StarClan to finally be at peace and eventually became mates again with Oakheart once they got to know each other better. Of course, alot of this relies on speculation, but it's either this or, like with most of the ships in this series, the Erins just don't know how to write romance, which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. BP being the first of the prequal Super Editions probably has something to do with it as well. If we're looking at this ship as it is, then yes, it could've definitely been more developed than it was and I would've liked to see more interactions between them as well as more of Bluestar's friendship with Crookedstar. But regardless, this has always been an interesting relationship for me to analyze, especially with how unusual it is compared to other forbidden relationships. That's probably why it's one of the few forbidden relationships I actually like.
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Post by Pyropelt on Jan 9, 2019 13:03:58 GMT -5
Bramblestar x Squirrelflight Firestar x Sandstorm Alderheart x Needletail Lionblaze x Cinderpelt Tigerheart x Dovewing Tom x Turtle Tail Gray Wing x Slate Finleap x Twigbranch Crowfrost x Dawnpelt Shellheart x Rainflower Oakheart x Bluestar Thistleclaw x Snowfur Thistleclaw x Spottedleaf Graystripe x Silverstream Graystripe x Millie Moonflower x Stormtail
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Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jan 9, 2019 13:16:27 GMT -5
I get the other choices, but I'm curious, why include this one?
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Post by Pyropelt on Jan 9, 2019 13:23:17 GMT -5
I get the other choices, but I'm curious, why include this one? Eh it just seemed rather plain to me I guess. Plus, I feel that they didn't mesh well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 13:31:19 GMT -5
Bramble x Squirrel Dove x Tiger Ragged x Yellow Gray x Silver Alder x Velvet Moon x Storm
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Bisexual
Selena
Mint Oreos are superior
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Post by Selena on Jan 9, 2019 17:33:42 GMT -5
Tigerstar and Dovewing
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Post by Amber on Jan 10, 2019 1:41:27 GMT -5
RobinwingxPatchpelt- It still baffles me and makes no sense that Robinwing and Fuzzypelt had one(two if count the litter mentioned before Brindle's and Frost's)litter together then broke up or whatever only for Robinwing to have Longtail with Patchpelt then break up with him and have Dust and Raven with Fuzzy again. I just...Who thought this was a good idea? I could kinda see it if Longtail had kits, but he didn't. It honestly just bothers me so much, probably more than it should.
FirestarxSpottedleaf/Cinderpelt if she counts- Spottedleaf is self-explanatory and Cinderpelt didn't need to have feelings for him. I like those two with a platonic bond. It especially works because Yellowfang viewed them as her children. No reason for a sudden crush that adds nothing to the story. The only good thing to come from it is Cinderpelt putting aside her feelings maturely and
BramblestarxSquirrelflight- There's too much distrust in the relationship. Squirrel lied to Bramble about the three and he trained in the DF with his obviously evil father. This almost resulted in the death of her dad. Besides that the "enemies children get together" trope is overdone and it could've been cool to see their kits getting together or something like that instead.
BerrynosexPoppyfrost- Nothing would change if Poppyfrost was replaced with Honeyfern. Everything that she and Berrynose went through together would've happened with him and Honeyfern. Also it really rubs me the wrong way that they got together not long after Honeyfern's death. It took a mere six moons for them to become mates and expect kits. Honestly if they had gotten together during OotS, I probably would like the pairing a lot more because there could've been build. It wouldn't have been so soon after Honey's death and felt like it came out of nowhere.
ThornclawxBlossomfall- Yes I know they're equilvent to consenting adults, but this pairing makes me a bit uncomfortable. Besides, not only is half the Clan already related to Thornclaw's two siblings, but he's done nothing other than have kits only recently. He should've died or retired a long time ago instead of hanging around doing nothing for most of the time.
YellowfangxRaggedstar- Yeah no thanks. It's gross and as someone who has been in an emotionally abusive relationship I really hate how things are portrayed with them with Yellowfang wanting to fix him or whatever(At least from what I vaguely remember). The pairing is nothing but toxic and I really hate how everything with them was shown especially when considering her comments from OS/TPB.
TigerheartxDovewing- I dislike them together. Their relationship caused too much drama and should've ended in OotS. The only good thing to come from it is they're together and things have finally ended with Dove moving Clans.
SnowbirdxScorchfur- Yeah no thanks. With the uncomfortable thought that he fathered her kits as an apprentice and the age gap I don't care for it.
OnestarxSmoke- I hate this so much. It was one of the reasons why I stopped skimming at SS. The reveal of Darktail being the son of Onestar and Smoke just makes little to no sense. Like how did Onestar sneak away to meet with her? The Clan would notice his absence for hours on end. How did they even meet in the first place? Did Smoke just wander onto WindClan territory and they met or was there different circumstances? Darktail's character also suffered, going from an interesting character to someone prettily seeking revenge because his dad was a jerk. He should've been the child of BloodClan cats or something. Or if he had to be the child of a Clan cat, why not Blackstar? He looks more like him for one and if he were a former BloodClan cat too, his heritage would make a ton more sense considering ShadowClan worked with them for a while. Also attacking ShadowClan would make a heck of a lot more sense instead of coming out of nowhere having nothing to do with the object if his revenge.
And if Su's additions are now canon again, WhitestormxBrindleface and DappletailxRunningwind.
BrindlefacexWhitestorm- Firstly they're adopted siblings. While the argument of "they're just cats" can be used, it falls flat to me because they're are also cats who are humanized enough to be monogamous, have an organized society and religion as well as plan out battle strategies among other things. Secondly Whitestorm isn't the type to jump from mate to mate. It's just not in his character. Thirdly Brindleface was in the nursery expecting when Redtail died. So it's not a stretch to think he fathered her second litter too.
RunningwindxDappletail- Just very icky. The age gap makes me uncomfortable and it makes literally zero sense. It really seems like Runnginwind was drawn out of a hat of toms to be her mate without any thought or good reasoning. Also Stormtail is right there. Why couldn't he have fathered the kits especially considering there was actual development shown with their relationship?
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Post by Seven on Jan 12, 2019 13:47:21 GMT -5
thorn x blossom
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jan 13, 2019 1:42:18 GMT -5
DoveTiger BrambleSqurrel FireSand FinTwig ThornBlossom HollyFallen YellowRagged BlueOak GrayMillie LionCinder ClearStar ClearStorm GraySlate ThunderViolet CrowNight CrowLeaf ThistleSpotted FireSpotted BerryPoppy SpiderDaisy MapleDusk ReedDusk RowanTawny RainShell
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jan 13, 2019 1:45:06 GMT -5
Also, imo I agree with the others when it came to Poppy x Berry, it really just feels like collateral damage. We already know the only reason Honeyfern was killed was to bring deathberries into the camp for the pointless plot of Hollyleaf threatening her own mother with them later. So the Erins just decided to shack Berrynose with her sister in the end, it reminds me of how they put Rowan with Tawny just because they felt bad for getting Rowan's gender wrong all the time.
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Post by kells on Jan 13, 2019 15:20:39 GMT -5
Am I the only one who prefers Slate x Gray Wing and Crooked x Blue to be platonic? Slate, Gray and River were all chilling at the same time and I got more of a brot3 feel from them rather than anything romantic. And as for Crookedstar and Bluestar, it feels strange. First off, Crookedstar was obsessively loyal to his Clan. Or at least loyal enough that he made a deal with a shady-as-all-hell cat in some rink-dink place with a horrible smell. Falling in love with a cat with another Clan would be out of character for someone like him. Second of all, they just didn't click as lovers to me. They were completely fine as friends from different Clans, which is a trope you can almost never find. I was actually hoping for something like that between Dovewing and Sedgewhisker but their 5-minute friendship was chucked aside for the sake of romance drama. BrindlefacexWhitestorm- Firstly they're adopted siblings. While the argument of "they're just cats" can be used, it falls flat to me because they're are also cats who are humanized enough to be monogamous, have an organized society and religion as well as plan out battle strategies among other things. Secondly Whitestorm isn't the type to jump from mate to mate. It's just not in his character. Thirdly Brindleface was in the nursery expecting when Redtail died. So it's not a stretch to think he fathered her second litter too. RunningwindxDappletail- Just very icky. The age gap makes me uncomfortable and it makes literally zero sense. It really seems like Runnginwind was drawn out of a hat of toms to be her mate without any thought or good reasoning. Also Stormtail is right there. Why couldn't he have fathered the kits especially considering there was actual development shown with their relationship? In the earlier books, there were many half-brothers and sisters, which implies that the cats weren't monogamous. Darktail and Graystripe's relationship was never even brought up really, same with Dustpelt and Ravenpaw. Half of the time you never knew who was related to who in the original arc. Did anyone even know Whitestorm was Bluestar's nephew before reading her SE? I certainly didn't. Also, incest amd age gaps are everywhere so I don't think they're humanized to that extent. It would also explain Bluestar's sudden affair with Oakheart. Imo it was obviously more of an attraction rather than a romance at first, which later on bloomed into a full on relationship. This also applies to Fire x Spotted. It would make sense if it were later on in the series where the characters are humanized enough to perform cpr, then I could agree. But, in the earlier books they were much more realistic with everything.
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Heterosexual
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*finger guns*
Pronouns: She/Her/Moon(glade)
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Post by ↢Mօօղցlმძε↣ on Jan 13, 2019 16:01:37 GMT -5
Crowfeather x Leafpool: just...why? I get it's dramatic and all as well as a huge part of the storyline, but- COME ON? Anybody but these two, of all the main characters and infinite backies.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jan 13, 2019 16:47:07 GMT -5
Whooo-boi I got a lot.
Alder x Velvet (I don't mind Alder x Needle simply because it didn't actually go anywhere, but Alderheart and Velvet is just... no thanks. It's so out of nowhere.) Jay x Half (Jayfeather didn't need to fall in love to understand his mothers, and it's so OOC for him to wanna drop EVERYTHING for this cat he barely knows in comparison) Fire x Spotted (Didn't become canon (Thank god) but... just... ew. Spottedleaf is a creepy stalker that went as far as wanting his wife gone at one point and they shouldn't have dragged it as long as it was) Fire x Cinder (Not actually canon but still Cinderpelt didn't need to have a damn crush on him as it adds absolutely nothing to the story for it to be a thing) Dove x Tiger (Them getting together caused so much drama when it could've been avoided by them staying away from each other after OoTS (We could've had FoxDove but oh well. :///)) Clear x Storm ("Love at first sight" couples make me puke and these two are a LITERAL DEFINITION OF IT) Clear x Star (Clear Sky turns into "Mr. Steal-yo-gurl" and gets with the daughter of a tyrant who cornered him with his goons and tortured him until he was BATTERED AND BLEEDING, and she just sat on the side and watched, and was clearly getting with his son for a while. And it's pretty clear there's some manipulation going on in AFD when they are alone together for the first time. Hmmm... okay.) Thunder x Violet (Oh hey another "Love at first sight" (At least on Thunder's end, but still) pairing. Just... what even was this couple?) Yellow x Ragged (Obvious emotional abuse is obvious) Shell x Rain (Why in THE frick does he still love her even after she treated one of HIS OWN SONS like absolute shit? I never understood that. Not even my own father took that shit when it was happening to me. She's not a good mate and mother period. Enough with this "I still always loved them even when they were acting like a completely unbearable douchebag to me/my family" BS) Pale x Sand (Sandgorse only cares about his tunneling and isn't a good father to their son. Palebird and Tallstar deserve better) Fin x Twig (Manipulation on Finleap's part to the point it's literal sexual harassment (And no, you heard me, that's basically what it is in a nutshell. "Bang me and have my children or else you don't love me enough for us to be together and I'm leaving you"). Also her forgiving him just like that is BS. I direct you back to the Shellheart argument) Bumble x Dove (Bumblestripe deserves better than someone who doesn't truly love him) Bramble x Squirrel (Squirrelflight deserved better) Spider x Daisy (Daisy deserved better) Stormfur x Brook (And on your left we have good ol' STOCKHOLM SYNDROME) Crow x Leaf (A disaster all around. It ruined Leafpool's character for a good long while. Only existed to have the Three, and it's drama and effect spanning for a good 1 1/2 arc or so was infuriating) Crow x Night (They don't love each other and was only done for Crow's loyalty. It was never gonna work) Spotted x Thistle (I shouldn't even need to say it...) Lion x Cinder (I can't really find their chemistry tbh. Also the drama that came out of their relationship was so infuriating to read it made me really dislike them even more) Blue x Oak (Mr. and Mrs. One-Night-Stand) Hawk x Pebble (Hawkwing has some one-sided resentment towards her for no reason other than to blame her for Duskpaw’s death which isn’t even her damn fault. Then out of nowhere, he likes her again and they’re acting affectionate towards one another? It honestly feels like they tried to pull a FireSand, but failed with it. It's never actually shown how they were towards each other before the fire thing, just told entirely through Hawk’s biased PoV which drives me up the wall. It’s legit forced and I couldn’t get anything out of it and thus I don’t ship it at all.) Tom x Turtle (Tom keeping Turtle Tail's kits just to have power over her is abusive) Jagged x Holly (An out of nowhere couple in comparison to the cat who legit cared about him and I'm still infuriated they tossed out the potential of Rainswept x Jagged for this) White x Brindle (Why is this a thing now? It isn't in-character of Whitestorm to go from mate to mate like that as it clashes with his very gentle, respectful, and honest nature and UuuggghhGHGHGHGHHHH I HATE IT and I will never accept the idea of it as minor as it is I still can hate it) Running x Dapple (Screw Su canon with a cactus, this does not even exist in the books and shouldn't be in the new family tree to begin with) Onestar x Smoke (As if I didn't need any more to show Onestar is a coward and a douche. Also the backstory for Darktail was so out of nowhere. Why couldn't it have been Blackstar instead? They look SO ALIKE it would've worked better! (But that's the rare sight of my slight cat genetic nerd side in me speaking))
There's probably more I'm missing but I think that's most of it.
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Post by scint on Jan 13, 2019 17:21:54 GMT -5
Whooo-boi I got a lot. Alder x Velvet (I don't mind Alder x Needle simply because it didn't actually go anywhere, but Alderheart and Velvet is just... no thanks. It's so out of nowhere.) Jay x Half (Jayfeather didn't need to fall in love to understand his mothers, and it's so OOC for him to wanna drop EVERYTHING for this cat he barely knows in comparison) Fire x Spotted (Didn't become canon (Thank god) but... just... ew. Spottedleaf is a creepy stalker and they shouldn't have dragged it as long as it was) Fire x Cinder (Not actually canon but still Cinderpelt didn't need to have a damn crush on him as it adds absolutely nothing to the story for it to be a thing) Dove x Tiger (Them getting together caused so much drama when it could've been avoided by them staying away from each other after OoTS) Clear x Storm ("Love at first sight" couples make me puke and these two are a LITERAL DEFINITION OF IT) Clear x Star (Clear Sky turns into "Mr. Steal-yo-gurl" and gets with the daughter of a tyrant who cornered him with his goons and tortured him until he was BATTERED AND BLEEDING, and she just sat on the side and watched, and was clearly getting with his son for a while. And it's pretty clear there's some manipulation going on in AFD when they are alone together for the first time. Hmmm... okay.) Thunder x Violet (Oh hey another "Love at first sight" (At least on Thunder's end, but still) pairing. Just... what even was this couple?) Yellow x Ragged (Obvious emotional abuse is obvious) Shell x Rain (Why in THE frick does he still love her even after she treated one of HIS OWN SONS like absolute shit? I never understood that. Not even my own father took that shit when it was happening to me. She's not a good mate and mother period. Enough with this "I still always loved them even when they were acting like a completely unbearable douchebag to me/my family" BS) Pale x Sand (Sandgorse only cares about his tunneling and isn't a good father to their son. Palebird and Tallstar deserve better) Fin x Twig (Manipulation on Finleap's part to the point it's literal sexual harassment (And no, you heard me, that's basically what it is in a nutshell. "Bang me and have my children or else you don't love me enough for us to be together and I'm leaving you"). Also her forgiving him just like that is BS. I direct you back to the Shellheart argument) Bumble x Dove (Bumblestripe deserves better than someone who doesn't truly love him) Bramble x Squirrel (Squirrelflight deserved better) Spider x Daisy (Daisy deserved better) Stormfur x Brook (And on your left we have good ol' STOCKHOLM SYNDROME) Crow x Leaf (A disaster all around. Only existed to have the Three, and it's drama and effect spanning for a good 1 1/2 arc or so was infuriating) Crow x Night (They don't love each other and was only done for Crow's loyalty. It was never gonna work) Spotted x Thistle (I shouldn't even need to say it...) Lion x Cinder (I can't really find their chemistry tbh. Also the drama that came out of their relationship was so infuriating to read it made me really dislike them even more) Blue x Oak (Mr. and Mrs. One-Night-Stand) Tom x Turtle (Tom keeping Turtle Tail's kits just to have power over her is abusive) Jagged x Holly (An out of nowhere couple in comparison to the cat who legit cared about him and I'm still infuriated they tossed out the potential of Rainswept x Jagged for this) White x Brindle (Why is this a thing now? It isn't in-character of Whitestorm to go from mate to mate like that as it clashes with his very gentle, respectful, and honest nature and UuuggghhGHGHGHGHHHH I HATE IT and I will never accept the idea of it as minor as it is I still can hate it) Onestar x Smoke (As if I didn't need any more to show Onestar is a coward and a douche. Also the backstory for Darktail was so out of nowhere. Why couldn't it have been Blackstar instead? They look SO ALIKE it would've worked better! (But that's the rare sight of my slight cat genetic nerd side in me speaking)) There's probably more I'm missing but I think that's most of it. I agree with everything except for Jagged x Holly and maybe Thunder x Violet.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jan 14, 2019 0:03:04 GMT -5
Spottedleaf x Firestar
Spottedleaf x Thistleclaw rubs me the wrong way the most though. It doesn't make sense in any sort of imaginable way. Thistleclaw's overall downfall was from Snowfur's death, because while she was battle hungry, they seemed to even each other out and he genuinely loved her. It doesn't make sense for him to lose this she-cat he's MADLY in love with and suddenly go child predator.
Spottedleaf should just be with no one period. It hurts her character and the toms she gets paired with
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Post by Brindlefern on Jan 14, 2019 18:15:21 GMT -5
what the flapjacks erins why did you put necrophilia in your series You ask that like a cat being in love with a ghost is anything new in this series. :U
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Bisexual
Selena
Mint Oreos are superior
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Post by Selena on Jan 14, 2019 18:31:32 GMT -5
Lion x Cinder was too corny
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jan 14, 2019 19:59:18 GMT -5
what the flapjacks erins why did you put necrophilia in your series You ask that like a cat being in love with a ghost is anything new in this series. :U There's a difference between knowing a cat when they were still alive and falling for a cat that was already long dead. At least Jay and Half knew one another in their past lives, Holly didn't know Fallen leaves while he was alive period.
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Post by ѕρσσкуѕку on Jan 15, 2019 3:08:17 GMT -5
Oookay. So I read through everyone’s comments and compiled a list based on it. Needle/Alder - don’t know why cause I haven’t even read those books yet but I just don’t like it?? Jay/Half Moon - there was no reason for this and it kinda cheapened the whole situation, also weird that she liked someone who wasn’t really him but was but...??? Holly/Fallen Leaves - I agree with what everyone is saying here. Why can’t they be close but platonic? And whilst I don’t agree with that comment that all of the three are gay (personally I see Jay as ace and Lion as open to anything) she’s 100% a lesbian like come on ppl. Breeze/Heather - reminds me of Draco Malfoy and Astoria Greengrass, like they were trying to make a point that he’s semi-redeemed even though he really never was in the first place and it’s just needless and ugh Ivy/Fern - again, just unnecessary. Could’ve been handled better, could’ve been handled worse. Idk. Onestar/Smoke - okay but..why? Why couldn’t they just do something else? It’s kinda like completely ooc for who he was at the time too. :/ Lion/Cinder - I’ve always HATED this ship. Don’t know why exactly, but even as a kid I couldn’t stand reading about them. Daisy/Spiderleg - whilst I like Rose and Toad I wish this never happened because it was unnecessary for everyone and no one was happy about it. Just why? Thistle/Spotted - all I can say is I hope they fired every person they ran this plot by who said it was a good idea. Dove/Bumble - never got it really, just boring and pointless. Can’t we have a main character who’s not being sought after by someone? For once?? Cloudtail/Daisy - makes me feel sick to think about bc even though he was oblivious the whole time it nearly ruined the best canon ship of the series in my opinion. And wasn’t she literally just Smoky’s mate? Does he not matter anymore? Bramble/Jessy - haven’t read BS (lol perfect acronym tho) but I hate this idea in every conceivable way Poppy/Berry - what kind of guy is in love with a girl then dated her sister when she dies tragically???? Ragged/Fox - whatever the actual canon status of this, neither of them deserves a mate at all Fin/Twig - haven’t even read this part and I hate it Squirrel/Ash - I’ll never understand why people actually liked this ship like he was just wrong for her in so many ways and then became the worlds biggest jerk because she chose to be with someone else then LITERALLY tried to kill her children
Now there’s some ships people have mentioned that I don’t think should be on this list and here’s why. Yellow/Ragged - whilst being a horrible couple, they kind of work as a story. And just because a relationship is abusive or unhealthy, doesn’t mean you can’t appreciate the story it’s telling. Crow/Night - I don’t like these two as a couple but again I like their story. I think it’s something unique in this series and after so. many. couples. that’s kind of refreshing. Robin/Patch - I actually like the idea of him being a ladies man, and who says couples can’t break up and get back together after separate relationships? (*cough*squirrel/bramble*cough*) Thorn/Blossom - never saw it as a thing but honestly not a bad match in terms of personality. Can’t say I hate it. White/Brindle - once again, I don’t think it says anything negative about someone if they have multiple relationships. I don’t think it’s outside his character if they had a dalliance and a brief romance then he fell for Willow. He was at or around the nursery all the time when Fern and Ash were born so I kinda just always assumed he was the father anyway.
Then there’s the borderline ones, which for me are Fire/Cinder and Tiger/Dove where I just can’t say for certain how I feel about them.
And as for...*shudders*...Running/Dapple... DO THEY EVEN KNOW THEIR OWN BOOKS FOR STARCLANS SAKE Just. No. No no no no no. No.
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Post by crookedjaw on Jan 21, 2022 9:31:27 GMT -5
Bramblestar x Squirrelflight Firestar x Sandstorm Alderheart x Needletail Lionblaze x Cinderpelt Tigerheart x Dovewing Tom x Turtle Tail Gray Wing x Slate Finleap x Twigbranch Crowfrost x Dawnpelt Shellheart x Rainflower Oakheart x Bluestar Thistleclaw x Snowfur Thistleclaw x Spottedleaf Graystripe x Silverstream Graystripe x Millie Moonflower x Stormtail just curious didn't turtletail leave Tom?
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Post by crookedjaw on Jan 21, 2022 9:43:41 GMT -5
Squirlf x bramble Crowfeather x leafpool Spottedleaf x firestar Spiderleg x daisy Any other medicine cat or half-clan relationship Mapleshade x appledusk (but must admit that ship resulted in one of the most well written characters in the books)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2022 10:42:35 GMT -5
blossomfall and thornclaw. i know they were adults when they got together but i don’t understand why they absolutely needed to give blossomfall a mate and why they chose one of the oldest dudes in her clan
in a similar vein, leopardstar and the toad guy are very unnecessary. didn’t add anything to leopardstar’s character imo and felt kinda like comphet
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Post by crowspirit on Jan 21, 2022 10:53:44 GMT -5
That thread is three years old.
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Post by *•.¸♡𝘥𝘢𝘸𝘯𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦♡¸.•* on Jan 21, 2022 11:03:25 GMT -5
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