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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jan 7, 2019 13:03:43 GMT -5
What canon pairings do you think should've never happened at all?
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Post by scint on Jan 7, 2019 13:57:56 GMT -5
Personally, here's my list (including cats that were once mates and implied romances that are confirmed): Needletail x Alderheart - No. Jayfeather x Half Moon - Just why? Jayfeather did not need romance (a poorly written one at that) to show his softer side. And I know that Jayfeather loved her, but Half Moon loved Jay's Wing, not Jayfeather. It really irks me that this happened in canon (to an extent). Bumblestripe x Dovewing - Tbh they barely had any chemistry and neither deserves the other. Leafpool x Crowfeather - If Squirrelflight wasn't barren in the first place, then Squirrelflight could've had the three herself. This pairing is just unnecessary. Hollyleaf x Fallen Leaves - *sigh* I guess there's no such thing platonic relationships any more. Yellowfang x Raggedstar - I don't think this one needs explaining.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jan 7, 2019 14:12:55 GMT -5
Tigerstar x Dovewing
garbage pairing and garbage development
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Bisexual
#64C7FF
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finland
Porgs are love
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Post by finland on Jan 7, 2019 14:47:21 GMT -5
Tree x Violetshine
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Jan 7, 2019 14:53:58 GMT -5
Twigbranch x Finleap- it was cute at first, but the way he treats her is just gross
Ivypool x Fernsong- Ivypool was just fine without a mate and the kits, so it strikes me as unnecessary..: Plus, Fernsong's role could've been with anyone else, and nothing would've changed
Breezepelt x Heathertail - this one came completely out of left field, and the last thing Breezepelt needs a mate... I don't know who thought that was a good idea...
Onestar x Smoke - another one completely out of left field, especially when there were far better candidates (Blackstar or a descendent of Bloodclan come to mind)
Firestar x Spottedleaf - this was gross no matter how one-sided it is...
Snowfur x Thistleclaw - how exactly did the gentle Snowfur find the overly aggressive Thistleclaw attractive again?
Pinestar x Leopardfoot - did anyone notice the age difference on these two, plus the plot of Tigerstar I being born could have happened with anyone else
That's all I can think of off the top my head, but in reality, the majority of romance in the series is done very badly..
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jan 7, 2019 15:14:55 GMT -5
Breezepelt x Heathertail - this one came completely out of left field, and the last thing Breezepelt needs a mate... I don't know who thought that was a good idea... I don't care for the pairing myself, but Breezepelt liking Heathertail was hinted at least once in Sunrise, and they seemed to be friends as apprentices and an attraction could've grown as they got older, so I wouldn't say it was completely out of left field. That said, I don't think Breezepelt deserves a mate, either.
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Post by vectoring34 on Jan 7, 2019 15:50:37 GMT -5
"“I’ve been stuck in camp too long to miss the chance for a fight,” Snowfur spat."
"“You don’t escape that easily!” Snowfur screeched furiously as they skidded to the other side and disappeared into the pines. Pelt bristling, eyes wide, Snowfur streaked after them, over the oily Thunderpath."
Probably because she also liked fighting a lot. When they're apprentices, she and Thistlepaw even both boast about how they'll shred anyone who talks bad about Thunderclan at a gathering. Even Bluefur mentions that Snowfur was fixated on fighting and chasing off trespassers.
"There was more to being a Clan cat than fighting and chasing off trespassers. That’s what had killed Snowfur."
It's practically a match made in Starclan. They were both meatheads who liked fighting a lot, mutual interest would come about naturally from that.
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Post by kinkajou on Jan 7, 2019 15:52:14 GMT -5
JayfeatherxHalf Moon AlderheartxVelvet WillowpeltxTawnyspots PinestarxLeopardfoot
If you count Su canon, RunningwindxDappletail
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Post by Haze on Jan 7, 2019 15:56:55 GMT -5
Clear Sky and Star Flower - Sigh...
Thunder and Violet - unnecessary love between two cardboards
Brambleclaw and Squirrelflight - The worst chemistry.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 16:02:29 GMT -5
Bramblestar/Squirrelflight- They have too many trust and communication issues.
Lionblaze/Cinderheart- Unnecessary drama.
Jayfeather/Half Moon- Jayfeather didn't need a romance to help him understand and forgive Squirrelflight and Leafpool. Half Moon doesn't even know who he really is.
Leafpool/Crowfeather- This came out of nowhere. The Three could've easily been Squirrelflight's kits or even Cloudtail's or Whitewing's.
Daisy/Spiderleg- Again, out of nowhere.
Crowfeather/Nightcloud- Obvious reasons.
Dovewing/Tigerheart- Poorly developed. Personally, I think Bumblestripe is more suited for her.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jan 7, 2019 16:52:00 GMT -5
"“I’ve been stuck in camp too long to miss the chance for a fight,” Snowfur spat." "“You don’t escape that easily!” Snowfur screeched furiously as they skidded to the other side and disappeared into the pines. Pelt bristling, eyes wide, Snowfur streaked after them, over the oily Thunderpath." Probably because she also liked fighting a lot. When they're apprentices, she and Thistlepaw even both boast about how they'll shred anyone who talks bad about Thunderclan at a gathering. Even Bluefur mentions that Snowfur was fixated on fighting and chasing off trespassers. "There was more to being a Clan cat than fighting and chasing off trespassers. That’s what had killed Snowfur." It's practically a match made in Starclan. They were both meatheads who liked fighting a lot, mutual interest would come about naturally from that. It's kinda funny to me, because before I read BP I was lead to believe Snowfur to be some gentle soft-hearted butterfly or something of that degree (Considering like ya quoted, folks are usually calling her gentle and such), then I actually read the book and see she and Thistleclaw are a bit more alike than I expected. Gal was always eager to shred some ears when given the chance, so I'm not too surprised she and Thistle worked well together in hindsight as he was rather the same. (I don't mind them as a couple either, alongside being alike when it comes to battle stuff, they have their cute moments and seemed to genuinely love each other, so it was no big deal to me personally)
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#add8e6
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Jan 7, 2019 16:52:39 GMT -5
I don't care for the following pairs:
Dovewing and Tigerheart Leafpool and Crowfeather Snowfur and Thistleclaw Lionblaze and Cinderheart Clear Sky and Star Flower Clear Sky and Storm
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Post by kinkajou on Jan 7, 2019 17:29:01 GMT -5
Oh I forgot - ThistleclawxSpottedleaf
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Post by Sundance on Jan 7, 2019 17:38:33 GMT -5
Clear Sky x Star Flower Gray Wing x Slate Violetshine x Tree Onestar x Smoke Ivypool x Fernsong Thornclaw x Blossomfall Bramblestar x Jessy Thunder x Violet Dawn Tom x Turtle Tail
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Post by Kibui on Jan 7, 2019 18:07:38 GMT -5
The only one I really really didn't want to happen was DoveXBumble
I mean, my least favourite couple is still LeafXCrow but at least we got Jayfeather from that
Those two on the other hand? Bumblestripe deserves better in my opinion
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Post by vectoring34 on Jan 7, 2019 18:42:10 GMT -5
"“I’ve been stuck in camp too long to miss the chance for a fight,” Snowfur spat." "“You don’t escape that easily!” Snowfur screeched furiously as they skidded to the other side and disappeared into the pines. Pelt bristling, eyes wide, Snowfur streaked after them, over the oily Thunderpath." Probably because she also liked fighting a lot. When they're apprentices, she and Thistlepaw even both boast about how they'll shred anyone who talks bad about Thunderclan at a gathering. Even Bluefur mentions that Snowfur was fixated on fighting and chasing off trespassers. "There was more to being a Clan cat than fighting and chasing off trespassers. That’s what had killed Snowfur." It's practically a match made in Starclan. They were both meatheads who liked fighting a lot, mutual interest would come about naturally from that. It's kinda funny to me, because before I read BP I was lead to believe Snowfur to be some gentle soft-hearted butterfly or something of that degree (Considering like ya quoted, folks are usually calling her gentle and such), then I actually read the book and see she and Thistleclaw are a bit more alike than I expected. Gal was always eager to shred some ears when given the chance, so I'm not too surprised she and Thistle worked well together in hindsight as he was rather the same. (I don't mind them as a couple either, alongside being alike when it comes to battle stuff, they have their cute moments and seemed to genuinely love each other, so it was no big deal to me personally)There's a scene where Snowfur is covered in so much blood that Bluefur's actually concerned for her until Snowfur tells her it's not her blood. "Bluefur stiffened when she noticed Snowfur’s white pelt stained with blood. “Are you okay?” she gasped. Snowfur looked at the streaks. “It’s not my blood.”" The disconnect in the fanon is indeed very strange because dang she was tough as nails. Not many cats can pull the "it's not my blood" stunt without superpowers like Lionblaze. I think that it's inconceivable to some people that someone can be a brute force fighter and still a caring and devoted mother. Honestly, of female warriors in the series, she's probably in the top ten for the one quickest and most eager to jump into a fight.
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Post by kells on Jan 7, 2019 20:39:39 GMT -5
Leafpool x Crowfeather. The pairing is probably one of the worst in the series. It was abrupt, unlikely, out of character and just downright terrible. I swear it was as if the Erins suddenly realized how boring and bland of a character she was and decided to cram in forbidden romance drama near the end of the arc just for the sake of saying she did something. It would be forgivable if Squirrelflight's "barren-ness" wasn't chucked aside for the sake another crappy "kin of protag/antag" character, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dovewing x Tigerheart is just ugh. It's another "kin of tiger and fire fall in love with each other" which after nightmare of the relationship deemed Squirrelflight x Brambleclaw, I was already sick of it. If this ship didn't exist we would probably get a less predictable and boring drama-filled pov.
Jay x Half Moon, I'm actually indifferent to this ship. I just see that entire ancient tribe skit completely unnecessary and ridiculous.
Smoke x Onestar. I wouldn't put it past him that with WindClan's status and his friendliness towards a kittypet, he would fall for an outsider. But it's the fact that with the appearance and animosity that Darktail had, he held no resemblance to any WindClan cat. He seemed more of a son from violent or streetwise rogue than a warrior of all things. There were absolutely no clues to him being Onestar's son. None at all.
Poppywhatsit x Berrynose. The entire drama revolving around this was pretty unnecessary. It was if they were replacing filler with even more drama instead. Was Poppywhatsit even in love with him before Honeyfern's death? The ship also felt abrupt to me.
Violetshine x Tree. Coming from her background, I still can't understand how she could fall in love with someone so selfish and lazy. And reading her POV, it was more of some weird obsession rather than an actual relationship.
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Post by skeletonfangs on Jan 7, 2019 23:26:36 GMT -5
jayfeather / half moon seemed really boring and unimportant to me. not only was it kinda weird that jayfeather was gawking over some extremely ancient cat, but also kinda possessed a living being? that had sentience? like calm down hunters not every main character guy needs a love interest, please tone it down
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Post by Fireleap on Jan 8, 2019 2:28:37 GMT -5
PatchWillow- Siblings. HawkPebble- Cousins. IvyFern- Literally an entire prophecy stating they're related. LeafCrow- Annoying and forced. CrowNight- Night deserved way better. DoveTiger- Both are too immature for a romance. DoveBumble- Bumble's a creep and Dove's immature. JayHalf- I just really hate Half Moon. SpottedThistle- Obvious reasons. MapleDusk- Appledusk is a jerk and Mapleshade is unhinged to say the least. ReedApple- Appledusk cheated on Mapleshade with her. I don't like Reedshine but both her and Mapleshade deserved a better mate. BlueOak- Out of nowhere in BP. YellowRagged- Neither were good for each other.
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Post by embertuft on Jan 8, 2019 12:00:02 GMT -5
Poppyfrost x Berrynose ugh. I just don’t like her, and I don’t have an explanation why. Does anyone when they just know they hate a character, but just can’t explain why? This is me with this frickin ship. Honeyfern didn’t deserve to die for some petty plot line. Imo it should’ve been Poppyfrost poisoned instead of Honeyfern. Also, Honeyfern and Berrynose were already in love, so why ruin that by killing one of them off? And then dragging Poppyfrost into it. It’s just annoying filler, which wouldn’t need to happen if Poppyfrost had been killed off instead.
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jan 8, 2019 12:45:32 GMT -5
Poppywhatsit x Berrynose. The entire drama revolving around this was pretty unnecessary. It was if they were replacing filler with even more drama instead. Was Poppywhatsit even in love with him before Honeyfern's death? The ship also felt abrupt to me. Poppyfrost, and yes, she apparently was in love with Berrynose before Honeyfern's death. This is what she tells Jayfeather in TFA:
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Post by Moonblazer on Jan 8, 2019 15:04:00 GMT -5
Tbh...PoppyBerry is way more interesting and natural than BerryHoney. I love both, but BerryHoney seemed like a kitten crush more than a mature relationship. Honeyfern was just way too sweet and boring with Berrynose in my opinion. I love Poppyfrost’s fire and personality and just how naturally she gets along with him. Berrynose and Poppyfrost clearly love eachother and have really great moments together.
But that’s just me.
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Post by Lilystorm on Jan 8, 2019 17:22:20 GMT -5
HollyFallen I like them more as platonic best friends.
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Lesbian
satanael
are you girls ready? let’s go!
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Post by satanael on Jan 8, 2019 21:24:14 GMT -5
jayfeather/half moon, lionblaze/cinderheart & hollyleaf/fallen leaves are all bad because they're all gay. power of three? more like power of el gee bee tee!
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Bisexual
신성하지 않은 모든 것의 어머니
なんで私
Kpop isn't a choice, it's a lifestyle
Pronouns: She/Her/Demon Mom
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Post by なんで私 on Jan 8, 2019 21:47:31 GMT -5
Clear Sky and Star Flower, Leopardfoot and Pinestar (hurk), and Clear Sky and Storm.
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Post by Falconfrost on Jan 8, 2019 21:49:18 GMT -5
jayfeather/half moon, lionblaze/cinderheart & hollyleaf/fallen leaves are all bad because they're all gay. power of three? more like power of el gee bee tee! <iframe width="19.120000000000005" height="3.3400000000000034" style="position: absolute; width: 19.120000000000005px; height: 3.3400000000000034px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_91085528" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.120000000000005" height="3.3400000000000034" style="position: absolute; width: 19.12px; height: 3.34px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 900px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_68104114" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.120000000000005" height="3.3400000000000034" style="position: absolute; width: 19.12px; height: 3.34px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 108px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_78165454" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="19.120000000000005" height="3.3400000000000034" style="position: absolute; width: 19.12px; height: 3.34px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 900px; top: 108px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_69738386" scrolling="no"></iframe> this made me laugh lmao thank you
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Post by mimikyutie on Jan 8, 2019 21:53:38 GMT -5
Main one that comes to mind is Firestar and Spottedleaf, even as a kid I thought it was so odd.
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Asexual
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Rανєη'ѕ ƑƖιgнт
Rebel Queen
Art by Nicoletta Baldari
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Post by Rανєη'ѕ ƑƖιgнт on Jan 8, 2019 22:01:32 GMT -5
Firestar x Spottedleaf. Why couldn't they be friends? Then it became pretty creepy when Spottedleaf started showing up in the dreams of Firestar and his descendants.
Thistleclaw x Spottedleaf. Just nope.
Dovewing x Bumblestripe. It was cute at a few times, but the drama that came from it was annoying. I'm glad it's over.
Crowfeather x Nightcloud. I like their resolution in CT, but they should have never been together in the first place.
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Post by Swampamus on Jan 8, 2019 22:14:17 GMT -5
Oakheart and Bluefur/star
The romance didn't make much sense since she was so against Snowfur and Thistleclaw being a thing and yet she hooked up with a tom from another Clan.
Sorry this is getting rambly.
She had more chemistry and interactions with Crookedjaw/star early on and the loss of Mosskit could've been a connection with Crooked's mistaken promise to Mapleshade and how she pulled the strings to have everything happen in the later arcs. Which also could've been a nice way to rope ThunderClan back into her cruel punishment since Bluestar ultimately got away with her cross clan affair. Even when she admitted to her surviving kits and Fireheart about it.
Honestly, if there was ever a purpose to go back and rewrite the main series, making Mapleshade's Vengeance a deep plot point and prominent prequel could do the Warriors series a lot of good if only they made the underdog of RiverClan mix his already shaky loyalty with a lovestruck Bluefur before their growing love and dedication to their Clans eventually drew them apart, making the final time of their lives a faulty parallel to Mapleshade's.
A RiverClan tom and ThunderClan queen fall in love. ThunderClan queen bears cross Clan kits. Kits fall victim to the affair. And RiverClan tom finds a new mate and deals with the fallout.
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