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Post by scint on Dec 6, 2018 23:46:27 GMT -5
Okay, another shipping topic from Marrowfrost. I have no life. But in all seriousness, I'm utterly baffled by this ship and I really don't like it/get why it even exists. I understand the trans Redtail thing (tbh I don't really like the idea of it but I don't really care too much), but Redtail x Runningwind makes no sense because they've never interacted. And yeah, I get the thing with Redtail being a male calico and them being infertile, but do cat genetics really matter in a fantasy murder cat book? Is there something I'm missing here? Why do any of you ship it if you do? Or do you not like it/confused about it like me? To clear things up, I'm genuinely curious about this one because I know a lot of people who ship it. I just want to know why people ship it in the first place, or even just where it started from. (Because I just found out about this one a few weeks ago...)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 0:10:43 GMT -5
idk i guess its one of those things that are mostly based off headcanons. i follow a couple people on tumblr who are into it, i dont rly care for it just cuz I don't really care about either character but. its whatever.
I'm pretty sure it came about because people didn't really like the idea of Brindleface being Sandstorm's mother, so they made trans Redtail the one who carried Sandstorm and chose Runningwind as his mate. Not sure exactly why, but that's what I've gathered anyway. It doesn't bother me, i just tend to ignore it.
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Post by scint on Dec 7, 2018 0:15:48 GMT -5
idk i guess its one of those things that are mostly based off headcanons. i follow a couple people on tumblr who are into it, i dont rly care for it just cuz I don't really care about either character but. its whatever. I'm pretty sure it came about because people didn't really like the idea of Brindleface being Sandstorm's mother, so they made trans Redtail the one who carried Sandstorm and chose Runningwind as his mate. Not sure exactly why, but that's what I've gathered anyway. It doesn't bother me, i just tend to ignore it. Yeah, I tend to stay away from the dark side of the Warriors fandom Tumblr so I probably wouldn't know too much about it anyways. I'm mainly trying to stay away from it, but honestly because of the announcement of Redtail's Debt I think the ship either was born during that time or it was beforehand. I'm fine with it being mostly based off of headcanons, I just wish they'd have a little more canon proof as to why Redtail and Runningwind would be mates in the first place (like if they were good friends, rivals, etc).
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Post by Showers on Dec 7, 2018 0:16:37 GMT -5
I don't care much about either of these two cats to really have an opinion. I've seen a few PMVs (by Draikanator maybe) and I think it's just alright. I dunno.
The ship might just be fans way to bring more "life" to characters we don't know too much about or have much screentime though..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 0:34:29 GMT -5
ok I'm doing a little digging rn out of curiosity's sake
I THINK the first person to come up with the ship was jjadestar on tumblr. August 2017 they made a post saying "btw i think my headcanon parents for sandstorm are runningwind and redtail" with the tags "#all three are described as being more lithe #rather than super bulky"
so like, not much basis but they at least put a little thought into it. and then silverhawk, a popular wc blog, really liked the hc so they made it gain traction. because silverhawk is a trans guy so obviously he's gonna like trans headcanons.
It looks like its just a "for fun" thing, something they like the idea of. I mean its not like LGBT people have much ship content to choose from. its just a harmless thing that doesn't really need to be debated about whether it "makes sense" or not tbh. obviously if you're looking at it from a canon standpoint its not gonna make much sense, but canon is stupid so lol they can do what they want
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Dec 7, 2018 0:40:58 GMT -5
I didn't even know this was a thing XD
It's a neat HC tho
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Post by scint on Dec 7, 2018 0:49:15 GMT -5
ok I'm doing a little digging rn out of curiosity's sake I THINK the first person to come up with the ship was jjadestar on tumblr. August 2017 they made a post saying "btw i think my headcanon parents for sandstorm are runningwind and redtail" with the tags "#all three are described as being more lithe #rather than super bulky" so like, not much basis but they at least put a little thought into it. and then silverhawk, a popular wc blog, really liked the hc so they made it gain traction. because silverhawk is a trans guy so obviously he's gonna like trans headcanons. It looks like its just a "for fun" thing, something they like the idea of. I mean its not like LGBT people have much ship content to choose from. its just a harmless thing that doesn't really need to be debated about whether it "makes sense" or not tbh. obviously if you're looking at it from a canon standpoint its not gonna make much sense, but canon is stupid so lol they can do what they want Okay, I'm fine with that. I'm honestly just hoping that the shippers don't go too rabid with Redtail x Runningwind since after that ships can get really grating at times. I'm not really looking from the ship from a canon point of view, I'm just looking from my personal point of view. If they want to ship it I don't care, but I don't really like it for my own reasons other than canon. I like a few LGBT ships in this community, such as Sorreltail x Leafpool, Tallstar x Jake, and Cody x Leafpool but honestly I just hope that they're coming up with enough headcanons for Redtail x Runningwind seem more plausible to happen since it honestly needs development, even if it's something just for fun. It's mainly my personal preference, but a pairing is usually more likable when they have development together and/or a bond in some way. I don't go on Tumblr for that kind of stuff, but there might be some Redtail x Runningwind fics on there that give some background on the ship. But at least they put some thought into it and it wasn't completely random (I'm mainly grateful for that fact and that they haven't been paired together because why not or some other reason that doesn't really make that much since).
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Post by Brindlefern on Dec 7, 2018 2:34:57 GMT -5
Basically just another tumblr-made crack ship that makes no sense other than to be gay. I dislike it greatly, just like every other crackship I do. Give me a ship that actually contains characters having history of canon interaction with each other (And thus something I can properly ship/judge) instead.
Plus I really really REALLY don't nor did I ever like the whole "Redtail is Sandstorm's father" thing in any way for reasons so I simply just avoid stuff supporting that as much as I can and keep quiet about it unless spoken directly about the ship.
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Post by Haze on Dec 7, 2018 4:40:37 GMT -5
I don't mind, these are two characters that we don't know nothing about, so I find cute fans making back story for them.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 7, 2018 4:49:36 GMT -5
It's probably a ship that's mostly based off of headcanons over actual canon, but still considered a crackship, etc.
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Post by kinkajou on Dec 7, 2018 11:20:21 GMT -5
I don't really care much. I headcanon Runningwind as ace/aro so I don't ship it (although i do like the trans redtail headcanon)
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Post by embertuft on Dec 7, 2018 12:56:11 GMT -5
I prefer Dappletail x Runningwind. Don’t ask why, I just do like it.
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Asexual
Mayflower
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Post by Mayflower on Dec 7, 2018 16:30:49 GMT -5
This is one of the crackships I don't mind. Mostly because it doesn't backtrack anyone's personalities, like some crackships want to do by practically rewriting a whole character. Of course, that'll almost certainly change with Redtail's upcoming novella. Dunno how folks will react if it does reveal that he and Brindleface (or any she-cat) had a loving relationship, and he was deeply in love with his mate and adored her -- since it would, of course, be a she-cat. Not gonna lie: I'mma definitely be watching the fireworks in the WC Tumblr tag if that happens ;p
I think one reason Runningwind was chosen, though, is because he's one of the few characters arc who never had a mate -- him, Mousefur, and Longtail, iirc. So since people also really wanted development for Redtail, they chose Runningwind as his mate. Of course Mousefur wouldn't work...ya know, since people would call it a het pairing, because even if one is headcanoned as bisexual or something, people will argue that they're still "straight" even though that's not how LGBTA+ ships work lol they'd also say that Mouse being ace disqualifies her automatically, but again, that's usually not how aces work romantic-wise, but meh. And as for Longtail, I guess they just liked the atheistic of RunningRed over LongRed.
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Post by *Faith* on Dec 7, 2018 16:55:36 GMT -5
I've never heard of this one.
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Post by halogen on Dec 7, 2018 19:01:24 GMT -5
And as for Longtail, I guess they just liked the atheistic of RunningRed over LongRed. Well also, Longtail is way younger than Runningwind and Mousefur (it said he had only just became a warrior a moon ago by Into the Wild, I think) meaning he would have been still a kit when Sandstorm was born and if you don't want them in a relationship while Longtail was still an apprentice they would have had to have only been mates for a moon. Also, if they were going with how Tigerclaw's exile happened in canon it would raise the question of why when Dustpelt was all like "Redtail was my mentor how dare you" Longtail didn't seem to have a similar reaction to finding out Tigerclaw killed Redtail.
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Asexual
Mayflower
I am a Daisy and Ferncloud stan first, and a human being second
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Post by Mayflower on Dec 7, 2018 19:54:12 GMT -5
And as for Longtail, I guess they just liked the atheistic of RunningRed over LongRed. Well also, Longtail is way younger than Runningwind and Mousefur (it said he had only just became a warrior a moon ago by Into the Wild, I think) meaning he would have been still a kit when Sandstorm was born and if you don't want them in a relationship while Longtail was still an apprentice they would have had to have only been mates for a moon. Also, if they were going with how Tigerclaw's exile happened in canon it would raise the question of why when Dustpelt was all like "Redtail was my mentor how dare you" Longtail didn't seem to have a similar reaction to finding out Tigerclaw killed Redtail. Ahh, that makes sense! I totally forget how young Longtail was at the time. The way the timeline got a bit fudged with Bluestar's Prophecy and made things murky for me... Yeah, Longtail didn't have that reaction when the details of Redtail's death were revealed, but neither did Runningwind. So age aside, fans have to create a reaction for Runningwind, too. It doesn't help that Into the Wild was written long before the other books, so the relationships weren't linked properly. Cats that should've probably cared didn't, which was also just the way of the Clans back then, too. Cats grieved briefly, but then they moved on, as we saw with Rosetail, Lionheart, Runningwind, etc.
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Post by mymerlincat on Dec 7, 2018 22:57:41 GMT -5
Trash
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Post by Fireleap on Dec 9, 2018 18:56:34 GMT -5
I hate this ship more than I should honestly.
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Bisexual
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Post by なんで私 on Dec 9, 2018 19:31:04 GMT -5
I really don't like it
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Post by Lightflame on Dec 9, 2018 21:54:51 GMT -5
Runningwind with a mate doesn't sit well with me.
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