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Post by Redstorm on Dec 2, 2018 15:38:22 GMT -5
Who would you want as the final villain of Warriors? If not any existing cat, feel free to make one up and describe the villain and their characteristics.
Also feel free to write significant events such as battles and other epic moments tied.
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Post by vectoring34 on Dec 2, 2018 15:45:44 GMT -5
A new group of cats who use weapons like sharp stones and wooden spears and are led by a macaque who escaped from the zoo and made all these tools for them. He stomps the first few battles with his advanced weapons and tactics, but eventually he is defeated by being lured into a cramped gorge and pouncing into the middle of his formation and crawling under the spears because he underestimated their fighting spirit.
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Post by Lightflame on Dec 2, 2018 20:21:52 GMT -5
Warriors god. Her name is Silverpelt.
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Post by Chocolate-Fawn on Dec 2, 2018 21:33:44 GMT -5
Serial killer cat
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Post by vectoring34 on Dec 2, 2018 21:46:08 GMT -5
My ideal villain final fight basically
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Post by Moonblazer on Dec 2, 2018 22:21:15 GMT -5
A giant flock of birds come and swoop down stealing cats and kits, and there’s a war between Hawks and Falcons and cats idfk at this point.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 2, 2018 22:42:00 GMT -5
With the way things have been lately, I'm putting my money on Sleekwhisker early on, or later in the next series. Unless they decide to off her in a SE against the good guys tm. But other than that, most likely StarClan? If the titles are anything to go by, I feel like there will be conflict between StarClan and the living cats...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 22:42:11 GMT -5
Not necessarily a villain but like, an anti-hero who wants to dismantle the entire clan system for the greater good and actually has good points but they are fought against anyways but not necessarily because they are clearly evil like Darktail and more because the clans are stubborn and don't want to change. And in the end instead of there being a clear winner the clans do change but not entirely, keeping some old traditions but adopting some new ones.
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Post by Falconfrost on Dec 2, 2018 22:45:04 GMT -5
Not necessarily a villain but like, an anti-hero who wants to dismantle the entire clan system for the greater good and actually has good points but they are fought against anyways but not necessarily because they are clearly evil like Darktail and more because the clans are stubborn and don't want to change. And in the end instead of there being a clear winner the clans do change but not entirely, keeping some old traditions but adopting some new ones. That would be interesting.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 2, 2018 22:46:17 GMT -5
That would be interesting, I felt like Hollyleaf could have been that, but it would be nice to see a fresh face try it out.
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Post by wolfcry32 on Dec 3, 2018 7:36:43 GMT -5
You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain....
Mistystar. Or Firestar’s ghost.
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Post by kinkajou on Dec 3, 2018 8:08:27 GMT -5
That would be interesting, I felt like Hollyleaf could have been that, but it would be nice to see a fresh face try it out. I don't think Hollyleaf would...she's a total conservative
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Post by ivythorn on Dec 3, 2018 9:57:20 GMT -5
What I want to happen: A pov antihero that knows the flaws of the clan system and works to change them. She grew up in a clan and starts out very loyal. Eventually she see's the unnecessary violence and racism and tries to bring all the clans together into one big clan. She eventually gets more and more violent to achieve this goal. She attacks the gathering and theres a huge battle there, and all the clan leaders work together to kill her. The clans don't come together, but agree to be a bit more friendly and less fascist
What is going to happen: Sleekwhisker is pregnant with Darktail's kit! He looks exactly like Tigerstar of course since Sleekwhisker is his great granddaughter. He takes over Shadowclan because that needs to happen! He then fights to be as evil as possible. In the end all the Tigerstar clones fight in a huge battle vs all the Firestar clones.
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Post by Wolfyy- on Dec 4, 2018 0:27:02 GMT -5
Not necessarily a villain but like, an anti-hero who wants to dismantle the entire clan system for the greater good and actually has good points but they are fought against anyways but not necessarily because they are clearly evil like Darktail and more because the clans are stubborn and don't want to change. And in the end instead of there being a clear winner the clans do change but not entirely, keeping some old traditions but adopting some new ones. thanos
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Post by embertuft on Dec 4, 2018 1:39:40 GMT -5
What is going to happen: Sleekwhisker is pregnant with Darktail's kit! He looks exactly like Tigerstar of course since Sleekwhisker is his great granddaughter. He takes over Shadowclan because that needs to happen! He then fights to be as evil as possible. In the end all the Tigerstar clones fight in a huge battle vs all the Firestar clones. It’s just true that this will happen tho
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 4, 2018 1:44:26 GMT -5
Wolf pack....please?
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 4, 2018 6:24:35 GMT -5
That would be interesting, I felt like Hollyleaf could have been that, but it would be nice to see a fresh face try it out. I don't think Hollyleaf would...she's a total conservative I meant in a way that she could have gone this route in the wake of the reveal. Hollyleaf was always the type who literally breathed the warrior code, she wanted to be a medicine cat at first because she thought it would be the best way to serve her clan, she later tries to be the best warrior, she constantly chided Lion about his loyalties, but when she found out the truth about her birth she definitely went off the hinge quite a bit. Enough to murder another cat, spill all of TC's secrets in front of all the clans, then threatened to kill her own birth mother with deathberries. To her she was raised on a lie, it was all a lie to her, I felt that in a different scenario, one with more of a slowburn, than a gathering climatic scene, things could have gone differently. She committed premeditated murder, which is a calculatingly cruel act in general, but she had the mindset for it. I felt that in a scenario where Hollyleaf kept the murder to herself (which she ironically did anyway) and kept the truth a secret, she could have become an interesting villain, but not in the sense of evil being evil but in the sense of thinkings he's doing the right thing, even if it's morally bad. Similar to Clear Sky, but better written, he did what he did out of fear, and Erin inconsistency. With Hollyleaf, I could see her being ambitious to become leader, and wanted to enforce a "better" law on Clan cats. even if it's morally strict and really messed up. I can also see her wanting to punish Squirrelflight and Leafpool, abusing her power, to get revenge. Eventually, Hollystar(possibly) could get out of control in the eyes of others, but to her, she'd be enforcing a law for the good of everyone. I guess to put it simply if I were to compare her to a character in another media, I could see Hollyleaf becoming Kuvira from the Legend of Korra. Who essentially became a glorified dictator in the eyes of others that were against her, but to herself and her followers, she was a saint of a leader, they preferred over their actual monarch leader, a Prince that becomes KIng, but did nothing to unite the nation, while Kuvira technically did all the work. I felt that if any cat could have been that, it could have been Hollyleaf, she would have had the motive, the drive, and ambition, and the time to develop into such a character had she not turn tail and run off, and the Erins writing her off as dead for several books. It was a wasted opportunity, personally, I felt she should have stayed "Dead" at that point, instead of having her come back only to die, and not only that but to die for redemption tm. It felt like a lackluster end to a character that I used to deem complicating, another opportunities I felt that was wasted, just like the idea of Lionblaze dying in Holly's place in the final battle instead. It woud have had a bigger impact, and was already set up.
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Post by chimken nugget on Dec 4, 2018 7:16:24 GMT -5
I don't think Hollyleaf would...she's a total conservative I meant in a way that she could have gone this route in the wake of the reveal. Hollyleaf was always the type who literally breathed the warrior code, she wanted to be a medicine cat at first because she thought it would be the best way to serve her clan, she later tries to be the best warrior, she constantly chided Lion about his loyalties, but when she found out the truth about her birth she definitely went off the hinge quite a bit. Enough to murder another cat, spill all of TC's secrets in front of all the clans, then threatened to kill her own birth mother with deathberries. To her she was raised on a lie, it was all a lie to her, I felt that in a different scenario, one with more of a slowburn, than a gathering climatic scene, things could have gone differently. She committed premeditated murder, which is a calculatingly cruel act in general, but she had the mindset for it. I felt that in a scenario where Hollyleaf kept the murder to herself (which she ironically did anyway) and kept the truth a secret, she could have become an interesting villain, but not in the sense of evil being evil but in the sense of thinkings he's doing the right thing, even if it's morally bad. Similar to Clear Sky, but better written, he did what he did out of fear, and Erin inconsistency. With Hollyleaf, I could see her being ambitious to become leader, and wanted to enforce a "better" law on Clan cats. even if it's morally strict and really messed up. I can also see her wanting to punish Squirrelflight and Leafpool, abusing her power, to get revenge. Eventually, Hollystar(possibly) could get out of control in the eyes of others, but to her, she'd be enforcing a law for the good of everyone. I guess to put it simply if I were to compare her to a character in another media, I could see Hollyleaf becoming Kuvira from the Legend of Korra. Who essentially became a glorified dictator in the eyes of others that were against her, but to herself and her followers, she was a saint of a leader, they preferred over their actual monarch leader, a Prince that becomes KIng, but did nothing to unite the nation, while Kuvira technically did all the work. I felt that if any cat could have been that, it could have been Hollyleaf, she would have had the motive, the drive, and ambition, and the time to develop into such a character had she not turn tail and run off, and the Erins writing her off as dead for several books. It was a wasted opportunity, personally, I felt she should have stayed "Dead" at that point, instead of having her come back only to die, and not only that but to die for redemption tm. It felt like a lackluster end to a character that I used to deem complicating, another opportunities I felt that was wasted, just like the idea of Lionblaze dying in Holly's place in the final battle instead. It woud have had a bigger impact, and was already set up. I want this in two POVs: Hollyleaf’s and one of her now-enemies (maybe Squirrelflight?). Also, what would Cinderheart’s role be?
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 4, 2018 9:24:10 GMT -5
I meant in a way that she could have gone this route in the wake of the reveal. Hollyleaf was always the type who literally breathed the warrior code, she wanted to be a medicine cat at first because she thought it would be the best way to serve her clan, she later tries to be the best warrior, she constantly chided Lion about his loyalties, but when she found out the truth about her birth she definitely went off the hinge quite a bit. Enough to murder another cat, spill all of TC's secrets in front of all the clans, then threatened to kill her own birth mother with deathberries. To her she was raised on a lie, it was all a lie to her, I felt that in a different scenario, one with more of a slowburn, than a gathering climatic scene, things could have gone differently. She committed premeditated murder, which is a calculatingly cruel act in general, but she had the mindset for it. I felt that in a scenario where Hollyleaf kept the murder to herself (which she ironically did anyway) and kept the truth a secret, she could have become an interesting villain, but not in the sense of evil being evil but in the sense of thinkings he's doing the right thing, even if it's morally bad. Similar to Clear Sky, but better written, he did what he did out of fear, and Erin inconsistency. With Hollyleaf, I could see her being ambitious to become leader, and wanted to enforce a "better" law on Clan cats. even if it's morally strict and really messed up. I can also see her wanting to punish Squirrelflight and Leafpool, abusing her power, to get revenge. Eventually, Hollystar(possibly) could get out of control in the eyes of others, but to her, she'd be enforcing a law for the good of everyone. I guess to put it simply if I were to compare her to a character in another media, I could see Hollyleaf becoming Kuvira from the Legend of Korra. Who essentially became a glorified dictator in the eyes of others that were against her, but to herself and her followers, she was a saint of a leader, they preferred over their actual monarch leader, a Prince that becomes KIng, but did nothing to unite the nation, while Kuvira technically did all the work. I felt that if any cat could have been that, it could have been Hollyleaf, she would have had the motive, the drive, and ambition, and the time to develop into such a character had she not turn tail and run off, and the Erins writing her off as dead for several books. It was a wasted opportunity, personally, I felt she should have stayed "Dead" at that point, instead of having her come back only to die, and not only that but to die for redemption tm. It felt like a lackluster end to a character that I used to deem complicating, another opportunities I felt that was wasted, just like the idea of Lionblaze dying in Holly's place in the final battle instead. It woud have had a bigger impact, and was already set up. I want this in two POVs: Hollyleaf’s and one of her now-enemies (maybe Squirrelflight?). Also, what would Cinderheart’s role be? I feel like Cinderheart would try to be the voice of reason, although I personally wasn't very fond of her character, I did like how she and Hollyleaf had that small moment during the gathering. After Hollyleaf told the secret, she looked at her as if she was disappointed but also horrified and asked her what she's done, and how what she did was wrong before Holly turned tail and ran, there was also a bit of a nod to Cinderpelt who was sharing her body at the time. I felt that that moment was pretty significant in Holly realizing that even if she thought what she was doing was right, it could be still seen as morally wrong. Which I think could easily play in this other scenario I had in mind above. Cinderheart would probably be the one that tries to reason with Hollyleaf along her journey of corruption and try to convince her that what she was doing was wrong, and she should do the right thing. Now how this plays out can go two ways honestly. Cinderheart could be the key driver that helps redeem Hollyleaf eventually, or Hollyleaf discards her or attempts to, thinking it's for the greater good, and that what she was doing is still in the right. That it was necessary. But ya know, I don't think Cinderheart should be killed off, so just attempted murder, I mean she killed once, she could kill again. And either Cinderpelt saves Cinderheart, or another cat, maybe Lionblaze, which can make for better development on Lion and Cinder's side since imo it was either very rushed in canon, or had unnecessary drama. This can be the push she'll need either to be redeemed and realize she was becoming a monster or just continue that fall into madness. Really just depends on which one seems more interesting. I just felt that Hollyleaf's homocidal dark tendencies were too good to brush off like the Erins did tbh.
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Post by jayfeather1234 on Dec 8, 2018 14:33:16 GMT -5
My idea is sort of a crossover between Warriors and the Lord of The Rings.
A necromancer called Zog basically awakens a deadly spirit called Tevildo The Lord of Cats.
Tevildo breaks the door of night, triggering Dagor Dagorath, and releasing all of the long dead villains of Warriors and Lord of The Rings, including Morgoth, The Great Enemy of The World.
Tevildo, Morgoth, The Door of Night, and Dagor Dagorath belongs to J.R.R. Tolkien.
The name Zog comes from the game Middle Earth: Shadow of War.
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Post by Rio on Dec 8, 2018 17:49:13 GMT -5
A bit of a weird one but I'd really like the typical sweet and gentle mate/love interest of the protagonist to end up as a primary villain. I just want a villain that genuinely packs a punch you know? One where you want your suspicions to be proven wrong or something because you like them so much.
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Post by vectoring34 on Dec 8, 2018 17:49:17 GMT -5
My idea is sort of a crossover between Warriors and the Lord of The Rings. A necromancer called Zog basically awakens a deadly spirit called Tevildo The Lord of Cats. Tevildo breaks the door of night, triggering Dagor Dagorath, and releasing all of the long dead villains of Warriors and Lord of The Rings, including Morgoth, The Great Enemy of The World. Tevildo, Morgoth, The Door of Night, and Dagor Dagorath belongs to J.R.R. Tolkien. The name Zog comes from the game Middle Earth: Shadow of War. Now you've got me thinking cockney cats because of the way the orcs talk.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Dec 8, 2018 20:12:31 GMT -5
Guy, guys. You're too blind to see it. All the villains we've had now are just mini bosses. The final villains will be the editors, haven't you seen to hint drops here and there?
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