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Tree is good, you guys are just mean
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Post by Fawnwing on Oct 17, 2018 4:41:10 GMT -5
I don't get it. I saw him as a little clingy but it's not like he forced her into the relationship.
In River of fire, like, he seemed pretty hurt about her having kits when she came back, but he didn't start yelling at her or something. He just dealt with it without causing drama.
I think Bumblestripe is an alright character, and I don't understand why some people call him a nice guy?? Is there a reason to that?
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Post by Tas on Oct 17, 2018 6:03:47 GMT -5
He is nice, and he would have been a suitable mate for Dovewing.
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Post by ĐawnⱠiiqht on Oct 17, 2018 6:45:59 GMT -5
I don't dislike him really. The only cat that come to mind when i'm thinking about it is SILVERSTREAM...
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Post by Moonblazer on Oct 17, 2018 7:25:23 GMT -5
I agree. People are making him out to be like Ashfur. God forbid he thought he had a good relationship and was a little clingy, and hurt that she broke up with him, but he hasn’t acted out of anger, he doesn’t start yelling at her, he doesn’t get all in her face about her literally breaking the code and sneaking off with the leader of Shadowclan.
He can be upset that she broke up with him. He never forced her to do anything, and he wasn’t the one doing the pressuring anyway. The cats around them were, but even then Dovewing seriously needs to speak the heck up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 7:30:03 GMT -5
Because he was gross in the Shattered Sky bonus scene. I don't dislike him I just hate how he was handled.
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Post by ivysaur on Oct 17, 2018 8:25:46 GMT -5
I remember in Forgotten Warrior (?) that cute little scene where he shows Dovewing this little clearing with jasmine flowers. He was super nervous to show her this special place and he said something like "its better in greenleaf when the flowers bloom" and then Dovewing notices how nervous he was
That was peak Bumblestripe cuteness
Im not sure how he's handled in the later books since I haven't read them, but apparently he sounds pushy when he asks Dovewing for kits?
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Post by Showers on Oct 17, 2018 9:16:49 GMT -5
he's too stale to be ashfur level
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Oct 17, 2018 10:22:58 GMT -5
because they ruined his character in order to make tigerheart look better. he wasn't bad at all until they wrote him a different way in favor of tigerheart.......
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Post by Moonblazer on Oct 17, 2018 10:51:14 GMT -5
because they ruined his character in order to make tigerheart look better. he wasn't bad at all until they wrote him a different way in favor of tigerheart....... *picks up Bumblestripe* *Places him in a box with Rowanstar, Dovewing and Tawnypelt labeled “Cats Ruined to Make Tigerstar Look Good” * *cries silently to self* |
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Post by finland on Oct 17, 2018 11:00:56 GMT -5
This sums it up.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 17, 2018 11:01:58 GMT -5
because they ruined his character in order to make tigerheart look better. he wasn't bad at all until they wrote him a different way in favor of tigerheart....... *picks up Bumblestripe* *Places him in a box with Rowanstar, Dovewing and Tawnypelt labeled “Cats Ruined to Make Tigerstar Look Good” * *cries silently to self* Press F to pay respects. |
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 17, 2018 11:23:01 GMT -5
Yeah, pretty much. I think it wasn't that...ya know...deep? But like, he's just full of flaws in general and as the video says, you need to not only think with your heart but your head too. He was young, stupid, and in love lol. However, imo, he dodged a bullet with Dovewing, he kinda deserves better. But if he and Cherryfall are being implied...I don't mind...? But I'm a bit surprised since him and Rosepetal have had hints in the past? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 12:26:35 GMT -5
It's probably because of Ashfur actually. He was so extreme, any character that somewhat resembles him like Bumblestripe, will naturally get some of that hatred.
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Post by -` gumi ´- .✫ 🐾 on Oct 17, 2018 13:30:10 GMT -5
Gosh, I love Bumblestripe so much.
But he was turned into a terrible character just to, as someone said earlier, make Tigerstar look good for Dovewing.
I think he was so pushy and clingy was because he didn't know as of the time that Dovewing was already mates with Tigerheart/star.
While i don't agree with the video Finland posted completely, as it seems like, after watching, the creator kind of exaggerated a bit, i did agree that Bumblestripe could have taken a hint and backed off. I feel like he did though, but oh well.
I just feel like it's an Ashfur case, but not at the same time??
He just really loved dovewing. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by Brindlefern on Oct 17, 2018 14:08:00 GMT -5
I loved Bumblestripe honestly, I just really hated what they did with his character in SS. He hasn't exactly done anything to be a potential Assfur (As that's a worse case), but that doesn't mean he wasn't ruined to make Tigerfart better in comparison to him which upsets me greatly.
But outside the bullshit pressuring bit (Which is OOC of him to begin with imo), when he learned Dovewing was carrying Tigerhearts' kits he was upset yes, but that's expected given he loved her, but he didn't throw a fit, he didn't yell at her, he didn't guilt trip her for having her kits, he was simply upset and backed off. He's def. not Ashfur level and while I'm not happy at all with what they did with him I'm at least relieved he didn't BECOME another ashfur.
I don't hate him or even dislike him, I'm just... disappointed.
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Post by Chocolate-Fawn on Oct 17, 2018 17:33:29 GMT -5
He deserves better. As Moonblazer said, he was ruined to make Tigerheartburnstar look good.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Oct 17, 2018 18:40:04 GMT -5
it's just so unethical to ruin a character to make another character look better in comparison. you can't just change your own characters without canon logical reason like that. it makes no sense for him to act like that. the only reason was because at the time, dove and tiger were having problems and dovewig couldnt make up her damn mind about anything. bumblestripe acting ooc like that pushed her to always chose tigerheart in the end, which is bullcrap
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Post by mymerlincat on Oct 17, 2018 19:15:47 GMT -5
it's just so unethical to ruin a character to make another character look better in comparison. you can't just change your own characters without canon logical reason like that. it makes no sense for him to act like that. the only reason was because at the time, dove and tiger were having problems and dovewig couldnt make up her damn mind about anything. bumblestripe acting ooc like that pushed her to always chose tigerheart in the end, which is bullcrap Dovewing never had feelings for Bumblestripe. She only went for him because she felt pressured by him and her Clanmates to give him attention |
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 17, 2018 19:17:45 GMT -5
Probably because he's behaving like a clingy creep.
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Post by mymerlincat on Oct 17, 2018 19:24:18 GMT -5
Probably because he's behaving like a clingy creep. I wish I could like this post more than once |
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Post by Moonblazer on Oct 17, 2018 19:46:42 GMT -5
it's just so unethical to ruin a character to make another character look better in comparison. you can't just change your own characters without canon logical reason like that. it makes no sense for him to act like that. the only reason was because at the time, dove and tiger were having problems and dovewig couldnt make up her damn mind about anything. bumblestripe acting ooc like that pushed her to always chose tigerheart in the end, which is bullcrap Dovewing never had feelings for Bumblestripe. She only went for him because she felt pressured by him and her Clanmates to give him attention I still can’t fathom why she did not say anything. If she truly did not want him, nobody forced her to get with him. She seriously needed to tell him, and that’s what annoyed the hell out of me. Because now Bumblestripe will be seen as some jerk creep when he had no indication that she didn’t like him. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 19:50:50 GMT -5
Dovewing never had feelings for Bumblestripe. She only went for him because she felt pressured by him and her Clanmates to give him attention I still can’t fathom why she did not say anything. If she truly did not want him, nobody forced her to get with him. She seriously needed to tell him, and that’s what annoyed the hell out of me. Because now Bumblestripe will be seen as some jerk creep when he had no indication that she didn’t like him. Didn't she tell him she didn't want his kits in the bonus scene? And he continued to beg for them? At this point, he's harrassing her. Though I do agree that she lacks communication. But Bumblestripe has not been innocent as of recent. |
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Oct 17, 2018 19:52:07 GMT -5
wouldnt have been such a problem if dovewing wasnt so weak and sensitive to peer pressure. she has no spine, therefore she didnt say or do a damn thing about not liking bumblestripe. if she just made up her mind about tigerheart, she would have the spine to speak up. if she was ever smart, she would have realized her relationship with tigerheart was never good, but she didnt because she ended up stuck on him, not realizing why they were having problems in the first place.
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Post by Moonblazer on Oct 17, 2018 19:57:25 GMT -5
I still can’t fathom why she did not say anything. If she truly did not want him, nobody forced her to get with him. She seriously needed to tell him, and that’s what annoyed the hell out of me. Because now Bumblestripe will be seen as some jerk creep when he had no indication that she didn’t like him. Didn't she tell him she didn't want his kits in the bonus scene? And he continued to beg for them? At this point, he's harrassing her. Though I do agree that she lacks communication. But Bumblestripe has not been innocent as of recent. I didn’t find it as bad simply because alot of couples do this. One wants kids, the other doesn’t, the one who wants them tries to ask again, until they have to give up. Bumblestripe asked a few times, but then he didn’t. So when he saw her with another clan leader’s kits, he was upset, but he didn’t get angry, he never yelled. He was just overly hopeful for kits and she never wanted him in the first place. I never saw him to be creepy, because he did respect her. They were both young, and clearly both were not versed in communication. But I don’t think Bumblestripe is a bad cat. I honestly hope he gets a good mate because I bet he’d be a perfectly wonderful father |
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Post by mymerlincat on Oct 17, 2018 20:06:44 GMT -5
wouldnt have been such a problem if dovewing wasnt so weak and sensitive to peer pressure. she has no spine, therefore she didnt say or do a damn thing about not liking bumblestripe. if she just made up her mind about tigerheart, she would have the spine to speak up. if she was ever smart, she would have realized her relationship with tigerheart was never good, but she didnt because she ended up stuck on him, not realizing why they were having problems in the first place. If Bumblestripe was smart, he'd be able to pick up on the fact that Dovewing had no interest in him. |
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Post by Moonblazer on Oct 17, 2018 20:25:00 GMT -5
wouldnt have been such a problem if dovewing wasnt so weak and sensitive to peer pressure. she has no spine, therefore she didnt say or do a damn thing about not liking bumblestripe. if she just made up her mind about tigerheart, she would have the spine to speak up. if she was ever smart, she would have realized her relationship with tigerheart was never good, but she didnt because she ended up stuck on him, not realizing why they were having problems in the first place. If Bumblestripe was smart, he'd be able to pick up on the fact that Dovewing had no interest in him. Not everyone is able to pick up on everything perfectly. Who knows? Maybe he wasn’t sure, because she didn’t. say. anything. How the heck is that fair? Is it that hard to say “I don’t want to be with you?” That’s like getting mad at someone for getting a pepperoni pizza but not once did you ever say that you hated pepperoni? That’s like expecting someone to be a mind reader. They were mates. Had she genuinely shown achingly clear signs she never wanted him, I honestly think he would have noticed. Clearly she hid it and never told him. |
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Post by Viperstrike on Oct 17, 2018 20:40:25 GMT -5
I don't hate him, but I don't care for him either. Bumblestripe is a stereotypical nice guy with little else going for him. I'm personally not interested in characters like that, because they're boring to me.
I also don't understand why people say his character was "ruined" in favor of Tigerheart. Bumblestripe has always been the way that he is, going back to when Tiger x Dove was barely a thing and still in it's infancy. I really think people are starting to get out of hand with this "so and so was ruined in favor of Tigerheart." Just because a character doesn't get their way or turn out how you hope doesn't mean they were "ruined". Characters change and evolve over time, and sometimes that change isn't for the better. We could use this for any character really.
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Post by ivythorn on Oct 17, 2018 20:50:52 GMT -5
Just to clairify, Bumbelstripe was asking for kits when the two of them were not mates any longer.
I personally find Bumblestripe very annoying, but he's not and evil cat. Ivypool was arguably even more annoying with her "You can find everything you need in Thunderclan" comments. I love Ivypool, so I understand if you lie Bumblestripe for whatever reason.
I don't think he was "Ruined" in favour of Tiger and Dove. The Bumbledove ship just didn't work out. They were obviously very wrong for each other, and Dovewing wasn't happy in their relationship.
I think Bumblestripe just needs to move on, and I would love it if Ivypool ended up apolagising to her sister and the two of them making up. I never hated Tiger and Dove getting together and moving to Shadowclan, but I also just want those sisters to be together and happy.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 17, 2018 22:14:03 GMT -5
Relationships require communication. You can't just read minds...like??
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