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Post by Redstorm on Sept 30, 2018 10:47:56 GMT -5
His depictions are always massive and I was wondering if you all knew of any cat larger than him?
I know for sure he's larger than Bone (who's also depicted as massive) as noticed by Firestar in The Darkest Hour.
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Post by Lightflame on Sept 30, 2018 11:03:09 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Crookedstar is bigger than Tigerstar.
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Post by Brindlefern on Sept 30, 2018 11:16:11 GMT -5
Pinestar's probably bigger than Tigerstar or just as big, I mean where else would Tigerstar get his size from? Guy's def. a larger scale size of Maine Coon that's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 11:20:15 GMT -5
There's a few other big cats in the series, like Blackstar, Crookedstar, Brokenstar, Bone, and Bramblestar. If Tigerstar's not the biggest cat, he's still one of the biggest.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 12:07:44 GMT -5
Prossibly Crookedstar. I seem to recall Firestar being shocked that Tigerstar looked like he was going to nearly kill him during the battle to protect WindClan. And was thinking about how “he had met his match” or something like that. So on one hand that could mean he was still bigger than Crookedstar but if Firestar for once wasn’t sure if Tigerstar could win initially- and since Tigerstar didn’t take Crookedstar straight on he went straight for his neck- it’s possible.
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Post by Tas on Sept 30, 2018 12:47:24 GMT -5
Thunder has big paws.
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Post by kinkajou on Sept 30, 2018 12:57:06 GMT -5
Thunder's paws are bigger than Tigerstar and Crookedstar combined
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 30, 2018 13:01:15 GMT -5
I always thought Crookedstar was bigger, if only slightly.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 30, 2018 13:02:08 GMT -5
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 30, 2018 14:29:47 GMT -5
i've always pictured him the largest, along with crookedstar and mapleshade instead of getting his big size from pinestar, i actually like to imagine leopardfoot as being really big as well (think maine coon size) with pinestar being the smaller of the two of them. i know pinestar is described as being bigger, but c'mon, we need more she-cats in the series that aren't just "lithe and sleek" Buff and big Tawnypelt with lean and wiry Rowanstar is my l i f e
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Post by Sundance on Sept 30, 2018 14:32:01 GMT -5
I picture him as the biggest, baddest maine coon boyo
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Post by Redstorm on Sept 30, 2018 15:00:23 GMT -5
Looked into Into the Wild again and Crookedstar was listed as massive in the allegiances while Tigerstar was only big. Also Firepaw stated that he was huge and bigger than even Lionheart when he first saw him. So yeah, I must have missed this my first time around.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 15:02:02 GMT -5
I always thought Lionheart, Brokenstar, Bone and Lionblaze were larger.
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Post by vectoring34 on Sept 30, 2018 18:30:25 GMT -5
I always thought Lionheart, Brokenstar, Bone and Lionblaze were larger. Bone is explicitly only "almost" as big as Tigerstar so while the rest can vary with headcanon, that one's confirmed a no. As far as Crookedstar, what's the citation on him being bigger? Their battle had Tigerstar casually stomp him like he was a joke. " It was Crookedstar who leaped first, but Tigerclaw jumped nimbly aside and Crookedstar missed. Tigerclaw was more accurate; he turned and lunged at Crookedstar’s back. The ThunderClan warrior grasped the RiverClan leader with his long claws, and Crookedstar went limp beneath him. Fireheart watched breathlessly as Tigerclaw bared his teeth, lunged forward, and sank them deep into Crookedstar’s neck. Fireheart gasped. Had Tigerclaw really killed the RiverClan leader? Crookedstar’s pained screech told Fireheart that Tigerclaw had missed the spine. But it was a blow to win the battle. Tigerclaw released his opponent and let him race, yowling, toward the camp entrance." I know size isn't the only factor in a battle, but it is a factor and Tigerclaw easily brought him down. Anyway, given Hollypaw mistook Sol for a lion, it's possible he's around the same as Tigerstar(if nothing else, his hair's fluffy enough to give the illusion of being close in size).
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Post by Redstorm on Sept 30, 2018 19:36:22 GMT -5
I always thought Lionheart, Brokenstar, Bone and Lionblaze were larger. Bone is explicitly only "almost" as big as Tigerstar so while the rest can vary with headcanon, that one's confirmed a no. As far as Crookedstar, what's the citation on him being bigger? Their battle had Tigerstar casually stomp him like he was a joke. " It was Crookedstar who leaped first, but Tigerclaw jumped nimbly aside and Crookedstar missed. Tigerclaw was more accurate; he turned and lunged at Crookedstar’s back. The ThunderClan warrior grasped the RiverClan leader with his long claws, and Crookedstar went limp beneath him. Fireheart watched breathlessly as Tigerclaw bared his teeth, lunged forward, and sank them deep into Crookedstar’s neck. Fireheart gasped. Had Tigerclaw really killed the RiverClan leader? Crookedstar’s pained screech told Fireheart that Tigerclaw had missed the spine. But it was a blow to win the battle. Tigerclaw released his opponent and let him race, yowling, toward the camp entrance." I know size isn't the only factor in a battle, but it is a factor and Tigerclaw easily brought him down. Anyway, given Hollypaw mistook Sol for a lion, it's possible he's around the same as Tigerstar(if nothing else, his hair's fluffy enough to give the illusion of being close in size). a source I found was into the wild describing Crookedstar as huge in the allegiances and when Firepaw first saw him while Tigerclaw was big in allegiances (he was massive at first sight though). And when Firepaw saw him in the gathering he thought a lot about how huge he was and even bigger than Lionheart which could possibly be metaphor for hugest cat he knew previously (although I thought that Tigerclaw was bigger than Lionheart). Also during the gathering scene, Firepaw did not focus on Brokenstar's size (right after he noticed Crookedstar), only his long fur and disposition. To me it seems Crookedstar or Tigerstar is the biggest. But they seemed to kinda forget about Crookedstar's size while constantly emphasizing Tigerstar. Also somewhere they said Tigerstar was bigger than Bramblestar, I think the first time Jayfeather saw him.
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Post by vectoring34 on Sept 30, 2018 20:03:22 GMT -5
Bone is explicitly only "almost" as big as Tigerstar so while the rest can vary with headcanon, that one's confirmed a no. As far as Crookedstar, what's the citation on him being bigger? Their battle had Tigerstar casually stomp him like he was a joke. " It was Crookedstar who leaped first, but Tigerclaw jumped nimbly aside and Crookedstar missed. Tigerclaw was more accurate; he turned and lunged at Crookedstar’s back. The ThunderClan warrior grasped the RiverClan leader with his long claws, and Crookedstar went limp beneath him. Fireheart watched breathlessly as Tigerclaw bared his teeth, lunged forward, and sank them deep into Crookedstar’s neck. Fireheart gasped. Had Tigerclaw really killed the RiverClan leader? Crookedstar’s pained screech told Fireheart that Tigerclaw had missed the spine. But it was a blow to win the battle. Tigerclaw released his opponent and let him race, yowling, toward the camp entrance." I know size isn't the only factor in a battle, but it is a factor and Tigerclaw easily brought him down. Anyway, given Hollypaw mistook Sol for a lion, it's possible he's around the same as Tigerstar(if nothing else, his hair's fluffy enough to give the illusion of being close in size). a source I found was into the wild describing Crookedstar as huge in the allegiances and when Firepaw first saw him while Tigerclaw was big in allegiances (he was massive at first sight though). And when Firepaw saw him in the gathering he thought a lot about how huge he was and even bigger than Lionheart which could possibly be metaphor for hugest cat he knew previously (although I thought that Tigerclaw was bigger than Lionheart). Also during the gathering scene, Firepaw did not focus on Brokenstar's size (right after he noticed Crookedstar), only his long fur and disposition. To me it seems Crookedstar or Tigerstar is the biggest. But they seemed to kinda forget about Crookedstar's size while constantly emphasizing Tigerstar. Also somewhere they said Tigerstar was bigger than Bramblestar, I think the first time Jayfeather saw him. That doesn't strike me as good enough reasoning to say Crookedstar is bigger. Big, massive, huge, etc. are all synonyms. It doesn't help that Tigerclaw is also mentioned to be huge along with a few others he was chatting with "He scented Tigerclaw easily and found him sitting at the center of a group of huge warriors, behind the Great Rock." A few random Shadowclan cats are also described as huge "Then came great cats, huge dark warriors, their eyes glittering cruelly." Another random Shadowclan cat " Firepaw could see Frostfur and Goldenflower clawing and biting at a huge gray tom. " The word huge is actually used a good few times in Into the Wild, I don't think it really means anything. It just means they're big and beefy, but Tigerstar has the description applied far more consistently along with praise for being all big and broad shouldered and such. The rest kind of lose that description as the series goes on, and it comes off more like Firepaw being an excitable guy who hypes up everything.
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Post by Turian N7 on Sept 30, 2018 20:22:42 GMT -5
He's biggest where it counts.
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Post by Redstorm on Sept 30, 2018 20:29:26 GMT -5
a source I found was into the wild describing Crookedstar as huge in the allegiances and when Firepaw first saw him while Tigerclaw was big in allegiances (he was massive at first sight though). And when Firepaw saw him in the gathering he thought a lot about how huge he was and even bigger than Lionheart which could possibly be metaphor for hugest cat he knew previously (although I thought that Tigerclaw was bigger than Lionheart). Also during the gathering scene, Firepaw did not focus on Brokenstar's size (right after he noticed Crookedstar), only his long fur and disposition. To me it seems Crookedstar or Tigerstar is the biggest. But they seemed to kinda forget about Crookedstar's size while constantly emphasizing Tigerstar. Also somewhere they said Tigerstar was bigger than Bramblestar, I think the first time Jayfeather saw him. That doesn't strike me as good enough reasoning to say Crookedstar is bigger. Big, massive, huge, etc. are all synonyms. It doesn't help that Tigerclaw is also mentioned to be huge along with a few others he was chatting with "He scented Tigerclaw easily and found him sitting at the center of a group of huge warriors, behind the Great Rock." A few random Shadowclan cats are also described as huge "Then came great cats, huge dark warriors, their eyes glittering cruelly." Another random Shadowclan cat " Firepaw could see Frostfur and Goldenflower clawing and biting at a huge gray tom. " The word huge is actually used a good few times in Into the Wild, I don't think it really means anything. It just means they're big and beefy, but Tigerstar has the description applied far more consistently along with praise for being all big and broad shouldered and such. The rest kind of lose that description as the series goes on, and it comes off more like Firepaw being an excitable guy who hypes up everything. yeah I agree, that was the only evidence I found. Right now it's kinda fuzzy, just that the Erins talk the most about Tigerstar's size.
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Post by Basement Cat on Sept 30, 2018 20:33:20 GMT -5
He's biggest where it counts. Tigerstar does indeed have big meaty paws
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Post by Chocolate-Fawn on Sept 30, 2018 21:54:06 GMT -5
He's one of the fluffiest that's for sure
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Post by ivysaur on Oct 1, 2018 5:08:39 GMT -5
My list of the biggest cats would be Pinestar, Tigerstar, and Mapleshade. Crookedstar is just shorter than them by a bit though by the time we get to the original series, its mostly chub and fluff. Then it shrinks down with a clear difference to Lionheart, Tawnypelt, Mothwing, Bramblestar, and Bone.
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Post by whitestone on Feb 25, 2022 17:02:11 GMT -5
I was reading Tigerclaw’s Fury just now and saw something that made me come remember this thread. It says on page 36 - “Blackfoot stepped forward, and Tigerclaw almost flinched when he realized the white tom was as tall and broad chested as he was.” Now I’m not saying that means Blackfoot is the biggest cat, it just means Tigerclaw can’t be the biggest because Blackstar is already tied with him for that, canonically. In my opinion from what I’ve read, I always imagined Crookedstar as the biggest, as it feels like every time he appears, there’s a description of just how big he was, even was he was a new apprentice. In Bluestar’s Prophecy when she first meets Crookedpaw, it’s said he was bigger than most warriors, and she didn’t believe he was an apprentice just like she was. He also fights a 2v1 with Snowfur and Bluefur later on. Lastly when Firepaw goes to his first gathering, Crookedstar is the one who Firepaw states as being massive, which probably means he was noticeably the biggest cat there, because he didn’t say that about any other cat. Bluefur also states at one point that Crookedstar was “even bigger than Lionheart” and Lionheart was a lot bigger than the full grown Bluefur when he was an apprentice.
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Feb 25, 2022 17:15:38 GMT -5
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