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Post by Fernstep on Sept 24, 2018 13:40:56 GMT -5
In other words, what's your hottest take? What do you think is the one opinion you have that almost no one else agrees with?
For me, it's that A Forest Divided was my favorite book in DotC.
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Post by Brindlefern on Sept 24, 2018 13:43:47 GMT -5
Skyclan's Destiny is a good book and the Daylight Warriors aren't terrible.
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Post by gonxkillua on Sept 24, 2018 13:48:13 GMT -5
That Ivypool is kind of boring.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Sept 24, 2018 13:53:17 GMT -5
unpopular opinion: squirrelflight is overrated and shouldnt have gotten brambleclaw/star back and shouldnt have been made deputy as a form of consolation
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 13:55:48 GMT -5
Ivypool is a controlling and selfish brat who isn't as good as everyone says she is. She's really bland after she got over her jealousy. She is selfish for wanting Dovewing to drop Tigerheart and to be with Bumblestripe, a cat she doesn't love and she knows this. Ivypool also hasn't matured, considering she's still mean to Dovewing. She isn't fitting to be leader, and she's also a horrible cowardly spy for not reporting shit. I don't care if she was forced into a job you don't want to do. That's life, you gotta do shit you don't want to put up with. She was an awful spy, an awful sister, and an awfully written character. She is not as good as everyone says she is.
Fight me all you want, but I stand by my own opinion. To end this, I loathe Ivypool with every fiber of my damn being.
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Bisexual
#64C7FF
Name Colour
finland
Porgs are love
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Post by finland on Sept 24, 2018 14:02:58 GMT -5
Tree x Violet is bad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 14:10:04 GMT -5
Millie isn’t that bad.
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Post by Basement Cat on Sept 24, 2018 14:18:22 GMT -5
I don't mind killing off characters just to elicit emotional response. I'm the person who would kill off Cloudtail and leave Brigtheart alive, purely for the emotional reaction. The key is, the emotional reaction has to mean something.
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Post by Redstorm on Sept 24, 2018 14:20:37 GMT -5
Firestar would've picked Spottedleaf in StarClan. Why else did Vicky kill her off.
Also that Spottedleaf and Firestar would've been a better match if both were same age and warriors.
TNP is also the best imo.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 24, 2018 14:21:02 GMT -5
Violetshine is an overrated jerk and Hollyleaf is annoying and really not that great at all
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 14:22:31 GMT -5
I like Hollyleaf x Sol. Sol also has the best concept for a villain.
Ivypool, Breezepelt and Blossomfall originally trained in the Dark Forest for a selfish/pretty reason and they were just overgrown brats. (At least, they grew out of it rather quickly, expect Breezepelt of course.)
Millie isn't that bad.
I'm sympathetic towards all of Mapleshade's victims, and they didn't deserve what happened to them, neither did any of them deserve the Dark Forest. Mapleshade is a massive hypocrite and lost all my sympathy when she started blaming everyone but herself and started killing.
I think Thistleclaw had wasted potential to be a good character/villain.
I like the idea of Snowkit being Snowtuft and would like a Super Edition on it.
I don't mind Su's Dark Forest like Lilywhisker and Brightflower - As long she comes up with good reasoning for it.
The original cast really shouldn't be around anymore and should let the new characters shine.
Leafpool should of stayed a warrior. Or at least become Shadowclan's proper Medicine cat like Cloudberry did.
Starclan should be left as a vauge concept and not get involved in the series too much. And the Dark Forest shouldn't of been made at all - Leave it up to the reader's imagination where evil cats go. Prophecies should also be kept to a bare minimum. Maybe only used for every other arc.
I wouldn't of minded or even liked Ashfur if they actually treated him like the villain he is.
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Post by Brindlefern on Sept 24, 2018 14:24:43 GMT -5
Firestar would've picked Spottedleaf in StarClan. Why else did Vicky kill her off. That wasn't even Vicky's thought process when she killed her in the first place. That was Kate's. (Also perish)
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Post by Redstorm on Sept 24, 2018 14:30:54 GMT -5
Firestar would've picked Spottedleaf in StarClan. Why else did Vicky kill her off. That wasn't even Vicky's thought process when she killed her in the first place. That was Kate's. (Also perish)I believe Vicky stated in the special pieces on Last Hope that she was the chief "executioner". Vicky controlled a lot of the elements in the novels and was often the final say. Although Kate herself did say it was a reason, I'm sure Vicky had a hand in deciding the decision and rationale as well. Edit: Vicky even states "And yes, it does make things a bit tidier, knowing that Spottedleaf won’t be in StarClan when Firestar arrives." Not that he would pick her, but it would make the decision less complicated, the why else statement wasn't meant to be taken in full.
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Post by nightstep on Sept 24, 2018 14:38:19 GMT -5
-I prefer the new covers to the old. -OotS is my favorite series -Night Whispers is my third favorite book (after TDH and CP) -TAQ and TAS are my least favorite books in the whole series besides SH and LW
I think those are generally my weirdest ones
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Post by Brindlefern on Sept 24, 2018 14:42:18 GMT -5
That wasn't even Vicky's thought process when she killed her in the first place. That was Kate's. (Also perish)I believe Vicky stated in the special pieces on Last Hope that she was the chief "executioner". Vicky controlled a lot of the elements in the novels and was often the final say. Although Kate herself did say it was a reason, I'm sure Vicky had a hand in deciding the decision and rationale as well. Edit: Vicky even states "And yes, it does make things a bit tidier, knowing that Spottedleaf won’t be in StarClan when Firestar arrives." I'm well aware of what Vicky's of the books is, you don't have to tell me as if I didn't know, thank you. :/ And I said that because you made it as if that was the sole reason as to why Vicky did it, when rather with the way she worded it, it was more of a "Bonus", not the prime reason.
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Post by Redstorm on Sept 24, 2018 14:46:34 GMT -5
I believe Vicky stated in the special pieces on Last Hope that she was the chief "executioner". Vicky controlled a lot of the elements in the novels and was often the final say. Although Kate herself did say it was a reason, I'm sure Vicky had a hand in deciding the decision and rationale as well. Edit: Vicky even states "And yes, it does make things a bit tidier, knowing that Spottedleaf won’t be in StarClan when Firestar arrives." I'm well aware of what Vicky's of the books is, you don't have to tell me as if I didn't know, thank you. :/ And I said that because you made it as if that was the sole reason as to why Vicky did it, when rather with the way she worded it, it was more of a "Bonus", not the prime reason. the why else statement was just part of my unpopular opinion. Didn't mean for people to take that as the literal sole truth of Vicky's justification, I understand that she never canon stated that was the only reason but there never really is an only reason for anything. Not trying to start something either, didn't mean to come off that way.
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Post by Sundance on Sept 24, 2018 14:48:07 GMT -5
I love Ashfur as a character, he's great I don't mind forbidden romances, they can be fun sometimes Millie is a fine mother, and a better match for Graystripe Silverstream is overrated OOTS is good
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Post by Viperstrike on Sept 24, 2018 14:49:12 GMT -5
Ivypool's entire character is built on Dovewing
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Post by Fernstep on Sept 24, 2018 15:07:31 GMT -5
I'm starting to wonder why I wanted to make this thread.
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Post by Brindlefern on Sept 24, 2018 15:14:45 GMT -5
My bad. x.x
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Post by kinkajou on Sept 24, 2018 15:34:19 GMT -5
Moonflower deserved to die Hawkheart did nothing wrong
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Post by mymerlincat on Sept 24, 2018 15:45:42 GMT -5
Moonflower deserved to die Hawkheart did nothing wrong I agree. Squirrelflight sucks and is one of the worst cats in the series. Sunrise is a terrible book.
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Post by Jaysnow on Sept 24, 2018 16:34:04 GMT -5
I've always been fond of Tigerheart, still am. I liked Night Whispers.
Don't kill me
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Post by gonxkillua on Sept 24, 2018 16:35:19 GMT -5
I've always been fond of Tigerheart, still am. I liked Night Whispers. Don't kill meAgree on Tigerheart. I also like Shadowkit and Pouncekit too.
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Post by Viperstrike on Sept 24, 2018 16:40:12 GMT -5
Mapleshade's victims deserved to die
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Lesbian
Owl
always writing, never finishing
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Post by Owl on Sept 24, 2018 16:48:43 GMT -5
thought of a few!
the only time sol ever remotely interested me was in the third skyclan manga. outside of that, he's never once caught my attention as a character
the erins don't need to kill off newer characters due to their lack of personality, they need to kill off old characters and give the newer ones more development. i want to "sort of" know about cats like leafshade, dewnose, honeyfur, and hollytuft, the way we "sort of" knew about characters like spiderleg, blossomfall, brackenfur, and berrynose. give these characters little side-quests, drama, and inner turmoil the way it was with side characters in the pre-avos and oots era, please
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Post by sylveon on Sept 24, 2018 17:31:21 GMT -5
TigerxDove isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be OOTS also isn't horrible, not great but not terrible Twigbranch isn't that bad either SkyClan is my second favorite Clan, right behind RiverClan. They're unique and don't deserve the hate they get.
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