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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 12:53:02 GMT -5
Both sisters seem to be harsh on Twigbranch and Dovewing. Why do some fans act differently with Ivypool, while others are angry with Violetshine despite the fact that she really isn't that bad with Twigbranch?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 14:22:42 GMT -5
Bump
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 24, 2018 14:32:53 GMT -5
Because Ivypool verbally states when she’s bothered with Dovewing’s crap allowing for some communication. Violetshine thinks negatively about her sister but says nothing as though expecting Twigbranch to understand her every thought. I just really hate it when people have problems with others but say nothing about them and expect that person to conform to their wishes lest they be only seen as annoying and stupid.
Believe me, I know what it feels like when people think only negatively about you and don’t say anything. It sucks when you’ve got true goodness and kindness but people still think you’re just annoying and that’s it.
Hence why I love my annoying characters. Because I can see them for more than their annoying traits and at least they are optimistic and kind compared to the less “annoying” cats.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 14:47:02 GMT -5
Because Ivypool verbally states when she’s bothered with Dovewing’s crap allowing for some communication. Violetshine thinks negatively about her sister but says nothing as though expecting Twigbranch to understand her every thought. I just really hate it when people have problems with others but say nothing about them and expect that person to conform to their wishes lest they be only seen as annoying and stupid. Believe me, I know what it feels like when people think only negatively about you and don’t say anything. It sucks when you’ve got true goodness and kindness but people still think you’re just annoying and that’s it. Hence why I love my annoying characters. Because I can see them for more than their annoying traits and at least they are optimistic and kind compared to the less “annoying” cats. Violetshine never learned to communicate properly because no one had taught her HOW. Even so, at least she always apologized for the things she has done. Violetshine is self-aware of her wrongdoings and tries to make it up. She loves her family and Twigbranch. Ivypool lacks as much communication as Dovewing. When she does she's harsh on her. She never apologizes like Violetshine does and never owns up to her mistakes. When she actually did tell Dovewing her issues with her she was screaming at her. I admit Dovewing didn't handle it but Ivypool was a bully when she tried to tell her about Tigerheart. And cutting ties with your own bloody sibling and telling her to be with someone you don't even love is gross. Violetshine is putting effort into trying to be closer to her sister. She wants to be close to her. She is trying to live a better life now that she is no longer surrounded by negativity. Violetshine never cut ties with her sister, never bullied her or pressured her. She said nasty things, yes - but in the end, she always apologized. Ivypool never did.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 24, 2018 15:06:04 GMT -5
Because Ivypool verbally states when she’s bothered with Dovewing’s crap allowing for some communication. Violetshine thinks negatively about her sister but says nothing as though expecting Twigbranch to understand her every thought. I just really hate it when people have problems with others but say nothing about them and expect that person to conform to their wishes lest they be only seen as annoying and stupid. Believe me, I know what it feels like when people think only negatively about you and don’t say anything. It sucks when you’ve got true goodness and kindness but people still think you’re just annoying and that’s it. Hence why I love my annoying characters. Because I can see them for more than their annoying traits and at least they are optimistic and kind compared to the less “annoying” cats. Violetshine never learned to communicate properly because no one had taught her HOW. Even so, at least she always apologized for the things she has done. Violetshine is self-aware of her wrongdoings and tries to make it up. She loves her family and Twigbranch. Ivypool lacks as much communication as Dovewing. When she does she's harsh on her. She never apologizes like Violetshine does and never owns up to her mistakes. When she actually did tell Dovewing her issues with her she was screaming at her. I admit Dovewing didn't handle it but Ivypool was a bully when she tried to tell her about Tigerheart. And cutting ties with your own bloody sibling and telling her to be with someone you don't even love is gross. Violetshine is putting effort into trying to be closer to her sister. She wants to be close to her. She is trying to live a better life now that she is no longer surrounded by negativity. Violetshine never cut ties with her sister, never bullied her or pressured her. She said nasty things, yes - but in the end, she always apologized. Ivypool never did. Ivypool never screamed at her. I don’t see screaming anywhere. And to be honest, I’d be pissed too if my sister broke up with a guy she wasn’t supposed to be with, only to openly and stupidly moon over him in their camp, and leave without saying anything. As “mean” as Ivypool was being, did she ever tell anyone about Dovewing loving Tigerheart? Did she ever reveal her sister’s secrets? She cared more about Dovewing’s safety when she went missing than she did about her betraying Thunderclan and got annoyed with Tigerheart because she was worried. Ivypool loves Dovewing, giving her a cold shoulder doesn’t mean she doesn’t love her. Ivypool isn’t crying out apologies because she has nothing to apologize for. Dovewing chose to leave without saying jack. At least Twigbranch told her sister and promised that she’d always care for her. You wanna know what else Dovewing said nothing about? Never once did I see her telling Ivypool to stop “forcing” her to be with Bumblestripe. Which she never did. Ivypool believed they’d be good together, she was friends with Bumblestripe and Dovewing never said otherwise. Dovewing never tells Ivypool anything about it. If she had a problem, I highly doubt Ivypool would have ignored a verbal communication. Also, this is the same cat who Ivypool was kidnapped by Shadowclan and held for ransom for, and she STILL never told anyone about their relationship when she EASILY could have. If that’s not care for your sister, I don’t know what is. Ivypool is allowed to be done with crap. She can be mad at the sister who lied, left and is now Shadowclan. She’s not a clanmate anymore. Why should she grovel at Dovewing’s paws and apologize when she has nothing to apologize for. If my sister met with a drug lord every night, lied to our family, then left without saying anything, am I not allowed to be pissed and feel abandoned?
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 24, 2018 15:09:36 GMT -5
I know you don’t like debates, so I won’t go deep if you don’t want me to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 15:13:36 GMT -5
I know you don’t like debates, so I won’t go deep if you don’t want me to. Yeah it's fine, we can agree to disagree.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 24, 2018 15:16:10 GMT -5
Hopefully they make them talk or make up sooner or later.
I have an AU where both of them trained in the DF and neither had powers because Hollyleaf still had hers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 15:20:20 GMT -5
Hopefully they make them talk or make up sooner or later. I have an AU where both of them trained in the DF and neither had powers because Hollyleaf still had hers. Knowing the editors, I doubt it at this point.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 24, 2018 15:22:17 GMT -5
Hopefully they make them talk or make up sooner or later. I have an AU where both of them trained in the DF and neither had powers because Hollyleaf still had hers. Knowing the editors, I doubt it at this point. Oh well. I’m content with FernIvy and their kits at least. I’d prefer a good interaction but meh
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 25, 2018 1:02:24 GMT -5
*shrugs* Unpopular opinion here, but I actually don't mind how Ivypool calls out Dovewing for her idiocy, Dove is to the point where she's old enough to know wrong from right. It's much more different than Twig and Violet who are much younger. I guess people started losing tolerance for Twig when she was starting to hit that age as well, but it's obvious she's maturing. Same with Violet, who is a product of her environment sadly, but I like how she and her sister have made up and are still close but also respect being in different clans now. On the other hand, Dovewing worried everyone sick with her dumb actions, and put unborn kits in danger, while her clan wasted precious energy looking for her. It's no wonder she lost her patience with her sister, yeah she was happy she was okay, but it's obvious she didn't learn her lesson in the end, and then just expects Ivypool to be okay with her crappy actions. While Violet and Twig have a reason, a legit reason, for the miscommunication, Dovewing really has no excuse lol.
But that's just my opinion.
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Post by Fawnwing on Sept 26, 2018 10:13:06 GMT -5
*shrugs* Unpopular opinion here, but I actually don't mind how Ivypool calls out Dovewing for her idiocy, Dove is to the point where she's old enough to know wrong from right. It's much more different than Twig and Violet who are much younger. I guess people started losing tolerance for Twig when she was starting to hit that age as well, but it's obvious she's maturing. Same with Violet, who is a product of her environment sadly, but I like how she and her sister have made up and are still close but also respect being in different clans now. On the other hand, Dovewing worried everyone sick with her dumb actions, and put unborn kits in danger, while her clan wasted precious energy looking for her. It's no wonder she lost her patience with her sister, yeah she was happy she was okay, but it's obvious she didn't learn her lesson in the end, and then just expects Ivypool to be okay with her crappy actions. While Violet and Twig have a reason, a legit reason, for the miscommunication, Dovewing really has no excuse lol. But that's just my opinion. I totally agree! I feel like that's exactly how I would react if my sister were to do something as dumb. I think what Ivypool did is reasonable. It's not like she hates her sister, it's the dumb decisions her sister keeps making that she hates. You said exactly how I felt about the situation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 12:55:25 GMT -5
probably because twigbranch is a much more likable character than dovewing is. Then again I find the way Ivypool speaks to dovewing to be rather disgusting and the only reason fans support her is because they make up stuff to supplement the nonsense both sisters spew. So what do I know? If I could like this 10,000 times, I would.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 27, 2018 10:31:48 GMT -5
probably because twigbranch is a much more likable character than dovewing is. Then again I find the way Ivypool speaks to dovewing to be rather disgusting and the only reason fans support her is because they make up stuff to supplement the nonsense both sisters spew. So what do I know? Idk, I'm pretty sure Dovewing's idiocy is pretty cut and dry considering how she consistently does the same crap over and over.
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