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Post by Brindlefern on Sept 19, 2018 15:25:26 GMT -5
I really hated Onestar before, but he just went an ABSOLUTE LOW when he did that in the book. Comparing Bramblestar to his tyrant father, who was the equivalent to Cat Satan and Hitler, probably knowing damn well how much that stings for him too, that was all around messed up. He was all around infuriating and that scene really tops how scum he is.
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Post by briarfrost on Sept 19, 2018 15:28:45 GMT -5
I didn't think I could possibly hate Onestar even more, but even post-mortem (at least in the book order) he finds new ways to top himself.
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Post by Tas on Sept 19, 2018 15:33:11 GMT -5
Gotta make Crowfeather and Breezepelt look better than their leader, and what better way to do that?
Besides Onestar becoming a mass murderer, of course.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 19, 2018 15:43:42 GMT -5
It made delicious drama. Onestar’s a huge jerk and I love it.
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Post by Turian N7 on Sept 19, 2018 16:11:07 GMT -5
It made delicious drama. Onestar’s a huge jerk and I love it. Thing is, leaders being jerks is the norm. Onestar's not special because of it, he just has the pettiest reasons for being a jerk.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 19, 2018 16:30:26 GMT -5
It made delicious drama. Onestar’s a huge jerk and I love it. Thing is, leaders being jerks is the norm. Onestar's not special because of it, he just has the pettiest reasons for being a jerk. Not really. Not at this level, and not much in Windclan. Tallstar was not as much of a jerk. Firestar, Mistystar, Leafstar, all are not jerks. Onestar is unique because he started out kind and fair and went downhill rather than always being a jerk or going from being a jerk to kind and fair. It’s the opposite of a rise to glory and I love that about Onestar.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 16:38:50 GMT -5
When he said that to Bramblestar my first gut was "this must be an inconsistancy because tauting Bramblestar is like, soooo 2000s" *inserts angsty teenage voice* Then I went back and realized that Onestar is generally not awful or at least not ridiculous in any of the main series books she has written, so she's definitely not being biased in doing that. Most of Onestar's nastiest lines have been by Kate. Soooo one might think "hey the editors probably just threw that in there for no reason D:" but they're all new. I doubt many of them even know Bramblestar is Tigerstar's father- it's barely been mentioned at all in AVOS anyways. It's all been the new Tigerstar and how he could be like his grandfather. Only Cherith would have enough context to do that, and considering she's been the one to portray him less negatively it had to have been on purpose with genuine reason. Which isn't completely random anyways- he saw Tigerstar kill Gorsepaw with his own eyes, and by that time was the only cat to remember Tigerstar (unless Nightcloud happened to be a young apprentice). And besides, Cherith has just written AVOS- where Onestar gets even more ridiculous and even ends up the father of one of the main villains. His character then would be fresh on her mind and so she'd understandably make them similar according to her thinking. And in my opinion Onestar was exactly how he really was- caring and supportive to his clanmates, but absolutely nasty and cruel to anyone else- especially in AVOS. What did we expect? It makes sense to me- and Cherith was simply showing that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 16:45:06 GMT -5
But honestly I wasn't angry at all when he said that, I cracked up laughing. That insult was just so old and lame and just, felt really stupid if anything.
Talk about a bully who hasn't caught up with the times.
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#add8e6
Name Colour
*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Sept 19, 2018 19:52:05 GMT -5
At first, I got mad that Onestar actually compared Bramblestar to Tigerstar, but now I'm just like, "That's such an old insult." But that's Onestar being Onestar, so I expected him to do at least something crappy.
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Post by Chocolate-Fawn on Sept 19, 2018 19:53:02 GMT -5
Here we have the wild Onestar being a complete ass
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Post by wildspirit on Sept 19, 2018 20:07:32 GMT -5
This is the moment i Hated most about this book. Onestar comparing Bramblestar to Tigerstar, and then straight out insulting him for it made me want to scream and throw this book. I didn't think a book could make me have such a strong reaction over such a bitter character. Onestar is just the worst.
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Rainbow
Pandean
Ferncloud Deserves Better
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Post by Pandean on Sept 20, 2018 1:03:18 GMT -5
Gotta make Crowfeather and Breezepelt look better than their leader, and what better way to do that? Besides Onestar becoming a mass murderer, of course. does keeping the lungwort from ShadowClan while they're all dying count as mass murder by proxy?
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Post by Fernstep on Sept 20, 2018 15:42:22 GMT -5
TiGeRsTaR kiLLeD oNeStAr iN tHe DaRk FoReSt
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