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Post by Brindlefern on Sept 10, 2018 15:11:17 GMT -5
Why is Bramblestar being such a dunce in this book?
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foxstep
loves squirrelflight way too much
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Post by foxstep on Sept 10, 2018 15:11:31 GMT -5
wow....
Can someone please invite me? I'm foxstep#7704
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Post by Phoenix1410 on Sept 10, 2018 15:17:47 GMT -5
Is there an explanation for Tigerheartstar's stupid behavior in the book?
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Post by briarfrost on Sept 10, 2018 15:17:58 GMT -5
StarClan sending divine retribution is so great.
But yeeesh, ShadowClan's just awful, and Bramblestar's not far behind them. Shame on you, Bramble, I'd hoped for a better showing from you this arc.
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Post by Moonblazer on Sept 10, 2018 15:19:56 GMT -5
Oh god Rowanstar. I miss you so freaking much.
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Post by Brindlefern on Sept 10, 2018 15:20:31 GMT -5
Whether or not the storm is actually caused by them, I don't care, I'll assume it is because it means even STARCLAN ain't having any of that shiz. lol
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Post by Lightflame on Sept 10, 2018 15:30:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 15:34:43 GMT -5
From the few scenes I've seen of Leafstar I can understand now why SkyClan is needed at the lake. The clans suck. There's no beating around the bush. They've been raised for generations and generations that the only way to keep their societies afloat is by attacking and harming each other for the good of their own kin and friends only. SkyClan's time of being away from the clans have taught them that it doesn't have to be that way, that outsiders can be treated with more respect, that you shouldn't have to attack each other to survive, and that you don't have to be a total jerk to thrive. It's all Leafstar seems to say and is trying to teach them all. But they won't have any of it because their hatred and rivalries are just too strong.
Without SkyClan and the better culture they've learned, this lifestyle will never end. ThunderClan will cycle back into aggressiveness because Firestar's morals are dying there quickly, ShadowClan is doomed to remain as the bad guys, RiverClan will always keep out of things that aren't their business, and Harestar can only do so much to bring WindClan out of their dark age.
SkyClan is finally forcing the clans to choose once and for all- to remain in their warmongering state or to finally change for the better.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Sept 10, 2018 15:54:40 GMT -5
From the few scenes I've seen of Leafstar I can understand now why SkyClan is needed at the lake. The clans suck. There's no beating around the bush. They've been raised for generations and generations that the only way to keep their societies afloat is by attacking and harming each other for the good of their own kin and friends only. SkyClan's time of being away from the clans have taught them that it doesn't have to be that way, that outsiders can be treated with more respect, that you shouldn't have to attack each other to survive, and that you don't have to be a total jerk to thrive. It's all Leafstar seems to say and is trying to teach them all. But they won't have any of it because their hatred and rivalries are just too strong. Without SkyClan and the better culture they've learned, this lifestyle will never end. ThunderClan will cycle back into aggressiveness because Firestar's morals are dying there quickly, ShadowClan is doomed to remain as the bad guys, RiverClan will always keep out of things that aren't their business, and Harestar can only do so much to bring WindClan out of their dark age. SkyClan is finally forcing the clans to choose once and for all- to remain in their warmongering state or to finally change for the better. Which is funny considering SkyClan's leader was by far the most aggressive of the founders (at least initially).
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Post by Sand on Sept 10, 2018 15:55:15 GMT -5
should we put every post (containing trs details) in a spoiler on this thread? Yes please.
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Bisexual
Fawnwing
Tree is good, you guys are just mean
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Post by Fawnwing on Sept 10, 2018 16:02:36 GMT -5
I love how everyone is saying this book is trash when they haven't even read it?? The WHOLE thing isn't even translated yet guys for you to read. Your jumping to conclusions without even having half of the book. It's interesting from what I'm seeing in the discord server. If you guys hate the series so much... why stay to see the updates?? Just a question. And also I love Violetshine x Tree so the salt fuels me to like them more XD Twig x Fin would've been that if he didn't turn out that way, yuck.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Sept 10, 2018 16:09:22 GMT -5
Does Mistystar die in this book?
Are Dovewing's kits apprentices at some point?
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Bisexual
Fawnwing
Tree is good, you guys are just mean
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Post by Fawnwing on Sept 10, 2018 16:10:13 GMT -5
Does Mistystar die in this book? Are Dovewing's kits apprentices at some point? Mistystar doesn't die. Not sure about the second question though..
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Post by Fernstep on Sept 10, 2018 16:11:44 GMT -5
Does Mistystar die in this book? Are Dovewing's kits apprentices at some point? They are apprentices by the end. Chapters 20, 21, 23, and 24 are still untranslated, so no one's read their apprenticeship ceremony yet, and consequently we don't know who their mentors are. We can assume Shadowpaw is a medisinkattlærling, though.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Sept 10, 2018 16:25:24 GMT -5
Okay, anything about the Skyclan cats that are still unaccounted for?
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Bisexual
#ffc5c5
Official Queen of Fan Clans
Name Colour
ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁
Official ThunderClan & ElmClan Leader
Easing back in
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Sept 10, 2018 16:44:24 GMT -5
I love how everyone is saying this book is trash when they haven't even read it?? The WHOLE thing isn't even translated yet guys for you to read. Your jumping to conclusions without even having half of the book. It's interesting from what I'm seeing in the discord server. If you guys hate the series so much... why stay to see the updates?? Just a question. And also I love Violetshine x Tree so the salt fuels me to like them more XD Twig x Fin would've been that if he didn't turn out that way, yuck. Some of the things I'm reading are making me think it won't be that great of a book, but on "meh" standards. However, there are some interesting things I have read.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 10, 2018 16:49:53 GMT -5
Does Mistystar die in this book? Are Dovewing's kits apprentices at some point? They are apprentices by the end. Chapters 20, 21, 23, and 24 are still untranslated, so no one's read their apprenticeship ceremony yet, and consequently we don't know who their mentors are. We can assume Shadowpaw is a medisinkattlærling, though. Shadowpaw's mentor is quite clearly Puddleshine.
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Post by Chocolate-Fawn on Sept 10, 2018 16:59:00 GMT -5
This book is so high on crack, I love it. The editors must've been drinking something weird when editing the Finleap character
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 10, 2018 17:01:12 GMT -5
I'm guessing Cloverfoot gets either Lightpaw or Pouncepaw as an apprentice. Otherwise, how could she be deputy? Then again, if Harestar had made Gorsetail deputy instead of Crowfeather, she wouldn't have had a recorded apprentice at the time. We now know that she was Crouchfoot's mentor, but that was never mentioned in OOTS since they were too lazy to update the allegiances.
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Post by Fernstep on Sept 10, 2018 17:04:56 GMT -5
They are apprentices by the end. Chapters 20, 21, 23, and 24 are still untranslated, so no one's read their apprenticeship ceremony yet, and consequently we don't know who their mentors are. We can assume Shadowpaw is a medisinkattlærling, though. Shadowpaw's mentor is quite clearly Puddleshine. Right, sorry, thought that was implied. Pyttskinn is his mentor, yes.
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Asexual
Mayflower
I am a Daisy and Ferncloud stan first, and a human being second
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Post by Mayflower on Sept 10, 2018 17:06:27 GMT -5
My issue with the series as a whole is there's so many time jumps that it gets confusing, and I struggle to remember who's had an apprentice, whose parents are whose, etc. We hardly see warrior or apprentice ceremonies or anything, with those sort of things (and other events, including bigger ones...) told after the fact, rather than shown. It's kinda annoying, since I actually do like this arc despite thinking there's been a few weak books in it, but I wanna read it, and not be told about it, if that makes sense.
From everything I've read on the server, however, my interest has definitely been piqued. I can't wait to properly read the English version.
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Post by VIXENCLAW on Sept 10, 2018 17:29:47 GMT -5
Okay, I haven't read all the spoilers yet, but I am SO unbelievably mad. What the heck??? Why did they have to turn such a great character like Finleap into such a creep??? I hate how now they are just ruining good characters like him and Bumblestripe. Why can't they just have a normal relationship? Twigbranch and Finleap seemed like they would make a great couple, but now Finleap is trying to force her to have kits when she has isn't even romantically interested in him? I'm really not a even a fan Warriors anymore. I'm sick of all the forbidden relationships and crap.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 10, 2018 17:32:39 GMT -5
Finleap doesn't even get to leave with SkyClan. They left without telling him.
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Post by Brindlefern on Sept 10, 2018 17:36:01 GMT -5
Finleap doesn't even get to leave with SkyClan. They left without telling him. *Snickers*SO MUCH FOR LEAVING if Twig doesn't have kits with him. I'd say that was unnecessarily mean they left him behind, but at the same time I'm grinning my butt off learning this after the shiz he tried to pull.
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Post by Basement Cat on Sept 10, 2018 17:39:18 GMT -5
I have a prediction that the Clans are going to abolish their monarchy and become democrats
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Post by Chocolate-Fawn on Sept 10, 2018 17:41:18 GMT -5
I have a prediction that the Clans are going to abolish their monarchy and become democrats The elections are coming. We need a cat Trump and a cat Hilary.
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Post by Thunderheart57 on Sept 10, 2018 17:43:34 GMT -5
I’m glad I’m going to stop reading the series after this. The editors and the Erin’s need to make a cohesive plot for the next arc. After SS, the series has been wandering around in circles with mostly filler and not enough substance worth justifying 300 pages.
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Post by VIXENCLAW on Sept 10, 2018 17:47:42 GMT -5
Finleap doesn't even get to leave with SkyClan. They left without telling him. SkyClan left? Good for them. All the other clans were pretty big idiots to them.
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Post by VIXENCLAW on Sept 10, 2018 17:49:20 GMT -5
But seriously, this is why I moved to Wings of Fire and Survivors. This new editing team sucks.
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