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Post by hissingwillows on Jul 14, 2018 1:08:14 GMT -5
I love AUs, so they're always on my mind. I've been wondering lately about what could have happened if Mudclaw had succeeded in his civil war and regained his position as leader. Presuming he followed through on his promise to Hawkfrost and helped to overthrow Leopardstar so Hawkfrost could rule... what do you think would have happened if we had Hawkstar and Mudstar as leaders?
I think we could have had a really interesting war situation, especially since the Clans were still so newly settled in the lake. Hawkstar and Mudstar would likely initially work together, but I'd expect Hawkstar would be looking for ways to get rid of Mudstar and take over WindClan when the opportunity arose. After all, he did make his desire to rule the Clans with Brambleclaw pretty clear before getting killed.
Honestly, I wish Mudclaw had become leader - not because I think he deserved it over Onestar or would have been better, but because it would have been so much more interesting to see where things progressed if he had succeeded and rose to power. The plotline was shot down way too quickly, and it could have led to an interesting last half of the series.
So, again, what do you think would have changed had Mudclaw become leader?
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Post by Lightflame on Jul 14, 2018 2:01:58 GMT -5
You've returned after 2000 years just to open Pandora's Box.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jul 14, 2018 2:20:51 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think he would have went through with the deal, especially considering Hawkfrost only had plans for him and Bramble to rule the forest. If Mud had made him deputy, there's a good chance Hawk would have killed Mud to get leadership of WindClan. Similarly to Tiger getting ShadowClan.
On the other hand if Mudstar became a thing, I feel he would choose Webfoot as his deputy, and Nightcloud as his mate.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 14, 2018 5:49:25 GMT -5
I wouldn't have minded a Mudstar, but I do think it would have just been Onestar's reign minus the few moons where he was still close with Firestar and Thunderclan. Windclan would have still been fierce in showing their strength away from Thunderclan, and while Mudstar probably could have developed to later become less aggressive and independent, I don't think there'd be much different plot wise.
If I must be honest, having Deadfoot become leader would have been incredible.
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Post by Smokyyy on Jul 14, 2018 8:53:32 GMT -5
Onestar wouldn't become a jerky moron.
Hawkfrost would've probably become Hawkstar which I would've liked to see.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 15:20:59 GMT -5
Since Mudclaw hated Tigerstar/Brokenstar and probably prided himself on being better then them, so I don't think he would be followed through with his promise of making Hawkfrost deputy of Riverclan. As for how bad of a leader he'd be, he probably be no worse then Onestar. Probably less even, considering Onestar was also traitor when he was in a forbidden relationship and rejected his son.
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