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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on May 11, 2018 13:31:26 GMT -5
I hope....Cherith fixes all these problems in the next series. I trust her writing over most of the Erins, and she seems to have the most say considering she's the oldest Erin. I think her and the Editors should try and work things out, despite the editors also making quite a few mistakes as well...
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Post by Thunderheart57 on May 11, 2018 13:36:33 GMT -5
I also agree with what everyone said here. For me, the last two books of the series did not hold up very well. I was very disappointed that not many characters were killed off in River of Fire, the lack of plot connection in the POVs in Darkest Night, Alderheart's declining relevancy in recent installments, telling or explaining events that should have been fleshed out and shown, and some punctuation errors I discovered while reading River of Fire. I expressed in my review for River of Fire on Goodreads that the characters that have been surviving since TPB and TNP needed to be taken out one way or another. Here is a direct quote from that review:
"The main problem that I have with River of Fire is the very underwhelming climax of the sickness and the titular fire that could have caused more damage to the characters than it did. The book had stated that some older characters (Whitewing, Squirrelflight, and Leafpool) were extremely sick and close to kicking the bucket. However, it never lived up to actually axe these characters off, and managed to cure them before it could happen. I’ll be honest here, but the Erin’s need to learn to let the old characters go. We all love them, but it should have been their time to leave the series and put more focus on the new characters. They could have had a plot point where it would allow them to kill off a bunch of characters with one stone. My example would be a severe shortage in medicinal supplies due to a drought, and the medicine cats were unable to save the sick characters.
If I was writing this series, the following characters would have been killed off in addition to Rowanclaw, Briarlight, and Spikefur:
Leafpool, Thornclaw, Brackenfur, Cloudtail, Brightheart, Squirrelflight, Graystripe, Whitewing, Birchfall, Bramblestar (loses his first life due to the sickness), Daisy, Mosspelt, Fallowfern, Ratscar, Mothwing (dies by contracting the sickness from a sick Clanmate)."
I'm still worried on how the last installment will go. I am already planning on leaving the series behind after this one due to a few reasons, one of them being the noticeable decline in the writing quality.
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Post by Amberfoot on May 11, 2018 13:45:24 GMT -5
Yeah, completely agree Thunderheart. River of Fire did not live up to the name! I was preparing for something so dramatic to happen and the book just sort of ended. I mean, mine as well call the book A Leader Born because that's literally all that happened in the book was the conclusion to a super edition that was released a while back.
Words of the wise; Don't call the book River of Fire if there is no really crazy river of fire. There were small fires that lighted not in campsites and that's about it.
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Post by Firestorm on May 12, 2018 13:11:25 GMT -5
I mean... Either we've gotta kill off some cats or the series has to end somewhere. It's getting too unrealistic. I know the series isn't all about realism, with talking cats having an organized religion and a few having magical powers, but unless we canonically have StarClan say "no more old cats are going to die of old age," then some of them have to go. Instead of focusing on how attached they are to the older characters, the authors could kill them off and focus on giving some personalities to the younger ones, and make them characters we could all get attached to.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on May 12, 2018 16:33:28 GMT -5
I don't think Kate's statement would be so bad if the new characters were actually developed over the old ones. But they're not, mainly because the old ones go... It's rather sad, because as people above me have stated, there are ways to go about getting them out of the spotlight without killing them directly (e.g. elders den, offscreen death). But they don't seem to want to do that either... It's particularly sad in a few cases, because they've lost all their friends and family, but the Erins don't even go into what that feels like (thinking mainly of Graystripe and Twanypelt, as much as I love her character, also Mistystar, Crowfeather, and Reedwhisker)...
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Post by Redwing on May 12, 2018 17:31:55 GMT -5
Still, if you think about it, the Erins killed off half of Shadowclan, but not Thunderclan. They both had sickness in camp, but Thunderclan somehow just survives, while Shadowclan loses many cats, with Rowanstar losing several of his lives. They mass slaughtered Shadowclan. Why couldn't the flood, sickness, rockfall kill the background/old cats but not cats with meaning
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