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Post by chimken nugget on Apr 22, 2018 19:09:29 GMT -5
If Hollyleaf had survived the Great Battle and become deputy/leader, would she have done a good job?
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Post by Jaysnow on Apr 22, 2018 19:09:48 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by Moonblazer on Apr 22, 2018 19:11:04 GMT -5
Eh. Maybe? I think she'd be a bit too controlling, honestly. There are other cats I think that could do better. She'd be okay, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 19:15:05 GMT -5
I think she’d be like Bluestar. A good, honest leader who punished fairly and commanded respect, but would get too emotionally affected by things relating to her past and be easy on half-clan couples and their kits.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 22, 2018 19:22:39 GMT -5
No. She is a warrior code extremist. As history has taught us, extremists should never be given power.
She would follow the warrior code to the letter and dole out extreme punishments for breaking it. And we all know how flawed the warrior code is. She might even go so far as to punish cats who disagree with her and end up becoming a dictator. "The word of the leader is law."
Just imagine if she was leader during AVS. Dovewing would be lucky to just be exiled. I could see Hollyleaf having her killed instead. She could be so far gone at that point that she would even kill the kits. And there is no way in h*ll she would be helping ShadowClan. She'd probably view the Kin as a punishment, which to be fair might not be too much of a stretch.
No, I'm glad Hollyleaf isn't around to see what is happening. She would lose her mind.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 20:02:47 GMT -5
No. She is a warrior code extremist. As history has taught us, extremists should never be given power. She would follow the warrior code to the letter and dole out extreme punishments for breaking it. And we all know how flawed the warrior code is. She might even go so far as to punish cats who disagree with her and end up becoming a dictator. "The word of the leader is law." Just imagine if she was leader during AVS. Dovewing would be lucky to just be exiled. I could see Hollyleaf having her killed instead. She could be so far gone at that point that she would even kill the kits. And there is no way in h*ll she would be helping ShadowClan. She'd probably view the Kin as a punishment, which to be fair might not be too much of a stretch. No, I'm glad Hollyleaf isn't around to see what is happening. She would lose her mind. I don't agree with this. Hollyleaf was strict about the warrior code, but not to the point she would murder innocent kits. Her time in the tunnels gave her the chance to mature and look back on her life and her mistakes. She was a changed cat by the time she came back in TFW, and I can only imagine she would continue to mature well into AVOS. I think if Hollyleaf were leader, she would be similar to Bluestar: strict, but sympathetic and understanding. Not to mention she's been shown helping the "enemy" before. She helped ShadowClan under Sol's reign, and she helped a fox cub in Hollyleaf's Story, so I could see her helping ShadowClan under Darktail's reign as well. I can't see her as the type of cat to turn her back on those in need of help.
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Post by olivepatch on Apr 22, 2018 22:42:31 GMT -5
yes
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 9:10:50 GMT -5
Considering that she hadn't been obsessed with the warrior code anymore in Omen Of The Stars and she's been more sane...I guess she'd be an okay leader.
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Post by WhispersintheMist on Apr 23, 2018 13:33:39 GMT -5
No. Especially in these times, you need out-of-the-box solutions, and a the-warrior-code-is-my-life kind of cat like Holly won't be able to provide that.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 23, 2018 14:12:54 GMT -5
When she came back from the tunnels, she definitely matured. If she didn't die in The Last Hope, she could have become deputy and leader someday...which is sad.
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Apr 30, 2018 16:19:36 GMT -5
I think she’d be like Bluestar. A good, honest leader who punished fairly and commanded respect, but would get too emotionally affected by things relating to her past and be easy on half-clan couples and their kits. This.
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