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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 12:42:20 GMT -5
No debating allowed. This is a topic where everyone is allowed to talk about Hollyleaf, and not expect people to argue about your opinion!
1) What's your opinion on Hollyleaf?
2) Do you like her relationships with her siblings?
3) Do you think she overreacted when the truth came out, or do you understand her?
4) Has she redeemed herself?
5) What did you think about her after she helped her Clan fight Sol and forgave Leafpool?
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Post by Moonblazer on Apr 22, 2018 13:12:28 GMT -5
1. She's okay for me. Not really a favorite, but a pretty okay character.
2. I think she was really controlling of her siblings and bossy at many times. It was a reason I found her...a bit overbearing and annoying at times. But, I do like how close she was with her brothers.
3. I definately think she overreacted. I hated seeing her try to feed Leafpool deathberries. It made me sick and furious. She killed Ashfur and then told the secret herself. She should have really spoken to Firestar instead of making Thunderclan look weak and in turmoil at a gathering.
4. Yea, she redeemed herself decently.
5. I loved her the most when she fought with her clan, died bravely, and forgave her mother. That was an incredible scene.
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Post by sunnbeep on Apr 22, 2018 13:19:39 GMT -5
1. i like hollyleaf because she brought something new to the table. she really made me feel connected to the old arc again because of her solid connection to the code, whether it be a bit obsessive or not. her actions after her passion was shattered, while not very realtable, were believeable and I found myself rooting of her once again.
2. i thought it's one of the better ones in warriors. she feels like the mature older sister that everybody has, whether through blood or through friends.
3. from hollyleaf's standpoint, not really. the warrior code meant everything to her. to find out that she was a living contradiction to it must've been devastating. she wasn't even supposed to exist. how is once supposed to live with that?
4. yes, definitely
5. her forgiving leafpool (who may not have entirely deserved it, truth be told) was so heart-warming. it makes me smile to know that hollyleaf went to starclan at peace with herself and her family.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 14:21:45 GMT -5
1. I love her. She's arguably one of the best written characters in the series.
2. I think she was rather bossy at times, but I like that she was close with her brothers.
3. Kind of. I hated the scene when she tried to feed Leafpool deathberries. It was really disturbing. However from her viewpoint, she had dedicated her life to the warrior code and to find out you're a living contradiction of it and you're not supposed to exist must have been pretty devastating. To put it briefly, I have mixed feelings.
4. Definitely.
5. It was a very sweet moment when she forgave Leafpool in TLH. It's nice that she died at peace with herself and her family.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 14:36:56 GMT -5
1. She's okay for me. Not really a favorite, but a pretty okay character. 2. I think she was really controlling of her siblings and bossy at many times. It was a reason I found her...a bit overbearing and annoying at times. But, I do like how close she was with her brothers. 3. I definately think she overreacted. I hated seeing her try to feed Leafpool deathberries. It made me sick and furious. She killed Ashfur and then told the secret herself. She should have really spoken to Firestar instead of making Thunderclan look weak and in turmoil at a gathering. 4. Yea, she redeemed herself decently. 5. I loved her the most when she fought with her clan, died bravely, and forgave her mother. That was an incredible scene. I couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Post by Jaysnow on Apr 22, 2018 14:39:51 GMT -5
1. I love her. She's arguably one of the best written characters in the series. 2. I think she was rather bossy at times, but I like that she was close with her brothers. 3. Kind of. I hated the scene when she tried to feed Leafpool deathberries. It was really disturbing. However from her viewpoint, she had dedicated her life to the warrior code and to find out you're a living contradiction of it and you're not supposed to exist must have been pretty devastating. To put it briefly, I have mixed feelings. 4. Definitely. 5. It was a very sweet moment when she forgave Leafpool in TLH. It's nice that she died at peace with herself and her family. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 14:44:07 GMT -5
i have no opinion on her
she used to be one of my favorites, but now i look back and cant remember a single thing she did.
so right now she is in limbo until i reread the books which will probably be not for a long time
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Post by mothsnap on Apr 22, 2018 16:17:21 GMT -5
1) What's your opinion on Hollyleaf?
I really don't care for her.
2) Do you like her relationships with her siblings?
I guess it's fine. They never didn't get along, but it's not like their relationship as siblings was super deep or anything. I feel like they did a few plot things together, but more or less had their own plot lines and their interactions were minimal. I don't remember many bonding moments or anything like that. I don't really like any of them honestly. They all have good moments, but the negatives outweigh them.
3) Do you think she overreacted when the truth came out, or do you understand her?
I definitely do. I suppose it was sort of in her character being so serious about the warrior code, but it just made her annoying and hateable. She gave her mother deathberries for heaven sake. Even Yellowfang felt so bad that she had to poison her son and didn't even think of doing it until after he'd betrayed ThunderClan.
4) Has she redeemed herself?
I don't know. None of the thing she did when she came back had to do with Leafpool, Crowfeather or Squirrelflight. She left some herbs and saved Ivypool. That's nice and all, but a deathbed apology isn't exactly the most sincere kind. When you're dying you get emotional and say things. Not nearly has powerful as coming to the realization on your own and having the gut to do something about it and deal with the aftermath.
5) What did you think about her after she helped her Clan fight Sol and forgave Leafpool?
She should be apologizing to Leafpool, not forgiving her. Yes, Leafpool was wrong, but if we're addressing Hollyleaf's flaws and if she's to be redeemed, she has to be the one apologizing. And Leafpool wold then apologize too. I don't remember the Sol stuff very well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 18:10:57 GMT -5
Bump
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Post by Pixie on Apr 22, 2018 18:52:02 GMT -5
1) Love her!
2) Yeah. They've had some cute moments.
3) DEFINITELY! She tried to get Leafpool to commit suicide. That was dark. She also ran away.
4) Yes. She's saved the life of three cats: Cherrypaw, Molepaw, and Ivypool. She gave herbs to her Clan and somehow was able to help Fallen Leaves into the Tribe of Endless Hunting. I will also mention that she was the main reason ThunderClan defeated Sol the second time.
Also, not justifying murder, but the cat she killed got what he deserved.
5) Wowza. Her scene with Leafpool was heartwarming, but I still can't get over how Hollyleaf tried to get Leafpool to commit suicide
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