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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 22, 2018 3:23:24 GMT -5
Did anyone else get the sense that Cherith never read DN prior to writing ROF?
The landslide destroyed the camp to the point that is was uninhabitable. How can it possibly be cleaned up that quickly? And some of those rocks were huge. I was expecting a major issue with damage to the medicine cat den in this book. But it gets much worse. Twigpaw was supposed to turn up at the temporary camp by the lake, not waltz into camp seeing everything in order! Shockingly, it does get a mention in ROF, but that in of itself is weird. Twigpaw's tone when she was remembering Snowbush's death was flat and unemotional, like the landslide had happened ages ago. But it probably couldn't have been more than a few days.
And then there's no reference to the tension between Sandynose and Twigbranch. I was expecting some sort of confrontation between him and Hawkwing after the latter learns of how he treated his daughter. Instead Sandynose seems upset that she left, whereas he was happy in DN.
We also don't see hide nor tail of the cats who returned in DN. Violetshine seemed to really want a relationship with Cherrytail and Cloudmist. How could there be no interact between them? And then when the apprentices' den is destroyed, there is no mention of Mintfur's kits even though they would have been in the den.
And lastly, Snowbird's kits aren't apprenticed even though they are the same age as Blossomfall's kits. Though to be fair, this might not be a mistake. Maybe Leafstar was putting it off until the ShadowClan cats proved their loyalty to SkyClan. |
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Post by Jaysnow on Apr 22, 2018 11:15:29 GMT -5
Maybe she had already forgotten a lot of stuff by the time she had started to write it. I know that the authors always read the previous books' manuscripts before they start the new one.
She is getting up there in age, maybe that's it.
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Post by Jaysnow on Apr 22, 2018 11:17:04 GMT -5
According to Kate they hardly ever read each others books Its actually the opposite. It's the allegiances they don't read |
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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 22, 2018 15:58:25 GMT -5
It's bizarre. It's like DN never happened. I normally don't say this about the books, but this might be the first book that was truly rushed. It was almost like Cherith had a quota she had to meet and was throwing in random stuff just to meet it.
This was one of the weirdest reads ever.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 22, 2018 19:24:48 GMT -5
Come to think of it, wasn't the season mentioned to be early leaf fall in ROF? We were well into leaf fall by the end of DN. It was supposed to be leafbare when Tigerheart returned in ROF.
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Post by Jaysnow on Apr 22, 2018 19:47:37 GMT -5
Come to think of it, wasn't the season mentioned to be early leaf fall in ROF? We were well into leaf fall by the end of DN. It was supposed to be leafbare when Tigerheart returned in ROF. Good point, actually. |
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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 22, 2018 21:04:05 GMT -5
Come to think of it, wasn't the season mentioned to be early leaf fall in ROF? We were well into leaf fall by the end of DN. It was supposed to be leafbare when Tigerheart returned in ROF. Good point, actually. This proves it for me. Cherith didn't know what she was doing. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 23:52:47 GMT -5
Also, Ivypool and Fernsong clearly talked about having their kits in the spring, but she's pregnant straight away and it's only autumn. I was actually happy that they were carefully planning their litter, but of course that didn't happen and they go ahead and have kits right before winter.
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Post by Brindlefern on Apr 23, 2018 0:01:31 GMT -5
Also, Ivypool and Fernsong clearly talked about having their kits in the spring, but she's pregnant straight away and it's only autumn. I was actually happy that they were carefully planning their litter, but of course that didn't happen and they go ahead and have kits right before winter. Kits being born in fall/winter? Yeah that's easily a recipe for disaster (Possible greencough and all). :/ Augh the inconsistencies are killing me. |
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Post by deerspirit on Apr 23, 2018 8:03:36 GMT -5
Not only didn't Cherith not read Darkest Night, she didn't read Tigerheart's Shadow due to the whole Rippletail and Slatefur fiasco. You would think they would read the books that are previous or going around the same time, so the books are consistent, and mistakes would have a lesser chance of happening, but no they don't. I mainly blame the editors since finding the inconsistent material and mistakes are their job. They are the people who need to have the previous books by their side and they obviously do not and ROF is proof of that.
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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Apr 23, 2018 9:56:56 GMT -5
According to Kate they hardly ever read each others books Its actually the opposite. It's the allegiances they don't read The way they openly admit it, it's almost as if they don't see the glaring problems with that...OK, first rule of collabbing with someone-PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE OTHER PERSON IS DOING. There is literally no point in doing a collab if you're not gonna do that. I swear, it's like they don't care: "We bumped off Hollyleaf because we couldn't think of any good powers for her" "We killed of [X] because we forgot they existed." And now, "We don't read eachother's book!" Crimeny! |
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Post by Amberfoot on Apr 23, 2018 10:07:36 GMT -5
I did think RoF was pretty odd. I usually love Cherith's books too, so I was surprised this one was such a flop to me.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 23, 2018 15:47:48 GMT -5
Also, Ivypool and Fernsong clearly talked about having their kits in the spring, but she's pregnant straight away and it's only autumn. I was actually happy that they were carefully planning their litter, but of course that didn't happen and they go ahead and have kits right before winter. I don't even remember this one. It just gets worse the more I think about it. |
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Post by Jaysnow on Apr 23, 2018 15:48:38 GMT -5
Also, Ivypool and Fernsong clearly talked about having their kits in the spring, but she's pregnant straight away and it's only autumn. I was actually happy that they were carefully planning their litter, but of course that didn't happen and they go ahead and have kits right before winter. I don't even remember this one. It just gets worse the more I think about it. She could have changed her mind. But yes, they could have forgotten or miscommunicated as authors. |
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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 23, 2018 16:12:42 GMT -5
I don't even remember this one. It just gets worse the more I think about it. She could have changed her mind. But yes, they could have forgotten or miscommunicated as authors. This isn't just one or two things. Almost every single event from DN has been completely ignored. It looks almost as if Cherith was going off of SS, not DN. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Apr 23, 2018 16:37:03 GMT -5
This is another reason why I didn't like the book. Somehow I didn't find the inconsistencies as annoying as I did, say, YS, but it was still pretty annoying nonetheless. On it's own, the book seems to at least be okay, but it barely feels like a followup to DN. This feels like Moth Flight's Vision all over again.
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