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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 21:45:19 GMT -5
What would you change about this arc?
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Post by Lady of the Emblem on Apr 17, 2018 21:50:17 GMT -5
easy: keep hollyleaf as the third cat. no side plots. don't make hollyleaf go crazy. finish up the dark forest arc in this series so the next one wont be watered down and dragged out (omen of the stars is a giant mess just because the erins replaced hollyleaf with dovewing for a dumb reason).
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Post by vectoring34 on Apr 18, 2018 8:30:23 GMT -5
Make it a prequel to really emphasize the hopeless and tragic nature of it. Also, get rid of the Tribe and the past cats, it’s so irrelevant
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Post by Amberfoot on Apr 18, 2018 9:05:28 GMT -5
easy: keep hollyleaf as the third cat. no side plots. don't make hollyleaf go crazy. finish up the dark forest arc in this series so the next one wont be watered down and dragged out (omen of the stars is a giant mess just because the erins replaced hollyleaf with dovewing for a dumb reason). I completely agree! I feel like after thinking about the entire thing, the Power of Three could have been a really epic series if they'd condensed OOTS into it. Disregard an entire generation of cats that aren't really necessary (sorry Dovewing, Ivypool generation) and focus on Jayfeather, Lionblaze, and Hollyleaf as the three. The dark forest thing could have easily happened in Power of Three and maybe dragged out less, so that it's not so over the top. I did like the story with Ashfur and Hollyleaf killing him, but I think the aftermath could have been handled an entirely different way. Maybe she could have killed him and in the tunnels realized she had powers. Something of that nature. I don't know exactly why they had to focus on more kin of Firestar in OOTS, and maybe its even reaching it to have even more kin of Firestar in AVOS.
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Post by Moonblazer on Apr 18, 2018 9:28:12 GMT -5
Make the Three Squirrelflight, Leafpool and Cloudtail/Whitewing.
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Post by mothsnap on Apr 18, 2018 9:37:15 GMT -5
cut omen of the stars. have dovewing and ivypool be apprenticed by the start of book 4. I don't want hollyleaf to be the third cat. Her personality at the beginning is that she wants to be important so I think her character arc is that she finds out she has not powers, but can still be important anyways. Then she apprentices Ivypool and stops her from going into the Dark Forest. Dovewing's power can be combined with Jayfeather's. Jayfeather can bring Lion and Dove into his dream invasion and Dovewing and listen in on all the Dark Forest stuff from a safe distance.
idk... those are all random idea. There's so much I'd like do redo, but I haven't really thought too deeply about it
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Post by vectoring34 on Apr 18, 2018 11:31:19 GMT -5
Hollyleaf shouldn’t have powers. There’s a lot more emotional depth to her thinking she’s important and having her dreams scattered to the wind like so much sand. Make her suffer emotionally, that’s one of the PoTs best facets
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Post by Lady of the Emblem on Apr 18, 2018 11:32:50 GMT -5
Hollyleaf shouldn’t have powers. There’s a lot more emotional depth to her thinking she’s important and having her dreams scattered to the wind like so much sand. Make her suffer emotionally, that’s one of the PoTs best facets they only made her suffer just to get rid of her and bring in dovewing which was unnecessary. not coming up with a power for hollyleaf is a horrible reason to bring down a whole series and not do anything with the over arcing idea of the dark forest
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Post by vectoring34 on Apr 18, 2018 11:35:15 GMT -5
Hence why I say to make it a prequel. Have cats talk about all those horrible things that happened seasons ago, and then explain it
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Post by Lady of the Emblem on Apr 18, 2018 11:39:51 GMT -5
Hence why I say to make it a prequel. Have cats talk about all those horrible things that happened seasons ago, and then explain it i dont really get that idea and it doesnt make sense to me...?
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Post by Lady of the Emblem on Apr 18, 2018 11:40:32 GMT -5
Make the Three Squirrelflight, Leafpool and Cloudtail/Whitewing. i never understood why people wanted other cats to be the three. wouldnt it be weird to suddenly wake up with powers? thats why i thought holly, lion, and jay being newly born made more sense because they would have grown up with their powers.
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Post by Lady of the Emblem on Apr 18, 2018 11:41:29 GMT -5
here's a way to keep hollyleaf as the third but also fix her personality: the powers can only be unlocked once the cat does some selfless deed and learns a lesson about something. or u could make it a maze like in ready player one to get the power?
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Post by Moonblazer on Apr 18, 2018 11:46:07 GMT -5
Make the Three Squirrelflight, Leafpool and Cloudtail/Whitewing. i never understood why people wanted other cats to be the three. wouldnt it be weird to suddenly wake up with powers? thats why i thought holly, lion, and jay being newly born made more sense because they would have grown up with their powers. But what about the weird bond powers that Leaf and Squirrel clearly had from early on in their lives? With Cloudtail, make him similar to Hollyleaf. She didn't have a power when the other two did, but just have Cloudtail find his late. I want another Three because the ones we got were really kind of sucky. Lion and Jay are really unlikeable characters for me, Hollyleaf never got a shot, and Dovewing just wasted her whole character. Meanwhile Squirrel, Leaf and Cloud easily were more likeable, more relateable and far more interesting for me soooo
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Post by vectoring34 on Apr 18, 2018 11:46:39 GMT -5
Hence why I say to make it a prequel. Have cats talk about all those horrible things that happened seasons ago, and then explain it i dont really get that idea and it doesnt make sense to me...? If Dovewing was established as the real third to begin with, then it feels like a tragedy rather than lazy writing
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Post by Lady of the Emblem on Apr 18, 2018 11:48:39 GMT -5
i dont really get that idea and it doesnt make sense to me...? If Dovewing was established as the real third to begin with, then it feels like a tragedy rather than lazy writing but the reality still stands they replaced hollyleaf because they couldn't find a power that fit hollyleaf's personality...it'll always be lazy to me and it's been YEARS since this all happened. it also doesnt help that omen of the stars is the worst series and everything to do with dovewing and her stupid love life make me wanna punch a wall.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 12:03:05 GMT -5
Personally, I'd do away with powers all together. I don't know what the Erins were thinking when they introduced them, since they wound up doing next to nothing. However, I would keep Jayfeather's ability to walk in the dreams of other cats.
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Post by vectoring34 on Apr 18, 2018 13:24:51 GMT -5
If Dovewing was established as the real third to begin with, then it feels like a tragedy rather than lazy writing but the reality still stands they replaced hollyleaf because they couldn't find a power that fit hollyleaf's personality...it'll always be lazy to me and it's been YEARS since this all happened. it also doesnt help that omen of the stars is the worst series and everything to do with dovewing and her stupid love life make me wanna punch a wall. The thread is called a rewrite, obviously what happened isn’t being taken into account. I think you’re not catching the point of the thread
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Post by Lady of the Emblem on Apr 18, 2018 14:02:01 GMT -5
but the reality still stands they replaced hollyleaf because they couldn't find a power that fit hollyleaf's personality...it'll always be lazy to me and it's been YEARS since this all happened. it also doesnt help that omen of the stars is the worst series and everything to do with dovewing and her stupid love life make me wanna punch a wall. The thread is called a rewrite, obviously what happened isn’t being taken into account. I think you’re not catching the point of the thread uh no. i posted my idea. im just saying the prequel idea doesnt make sense
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Post by tournesol on Apr 18, 2018 19:50:11 GMT -5
Personally, I'd do away with powers all together. I don't know what the Erins were thinking when they introduced them, since they wound up doing next to nothing. However, I would keep Jayfeather's ability to walk in the dreams of other cats. I agree for the most part with this. I would do away with the powers - Lion and Dove's powers didn't serve any obvious purpose throughout the entirety of the series except provide more drama. However, Jayfeather's powers are also a little questionable to me. As for Hollyleaf, it's completely stupid to throw her away like that just because they 'couldn't find a power to match her personality.' Th at's lazy and frankly, why would you plan a whole series centering on these three cats without planning everything first? As for replacing the three, I think that'd make the series even worse! The cats suggested - Squirrelflight, Leafpool, and Cloudtail - already had their run, and tbh, I was a little tired of them all even in OOTS. (except Cloud. I could never hate him.)
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