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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 17, 2018 19:09:41 GMT -5
Besides the nightmare, one of the reasons Dovewing left was because she was afraid she wouldn't be welcome in the Clan anymore. Do you think that that alone should've been enough reason for her to leave without including the nightmare?
I'm honestly glad there was another reason for why Dovewing left, but I do feel like that should've been enough, as Dovewing is still young and fear tends to cause others to think irrationally. And Dovewing clearly knew about Lionblaze and Jayfeather's parentage and saw for herself how it was affecting everyone for a long time, so that could've affected her choice in running away. Her having a prophetic nightmare didn't really seem necesarry.
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Mayflower
I am a Daisy and Ferncloud stan first, and a human being second
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Post by Mayflower on Apr 17, 2018 19:17:14 GMT -5
I actually wish they hadn't included the dream. As much as I dislike DoveTiger, I was beginning to like her, and then that made my opinion of her go down. Because if she dreamed that the nursery was in danger, she didn't tell anyone, and that put the other queens/her Clanmates in danger. Okay, she wants to run off? Sure. That's fine. But give some warning about the dream, at the very least! If she believed this so strongly and was scared out of her mind for her kits, why wouldn't she say anything? Even if the dream only pertained to just her kits, it remains to be seen that something could happen to the nursery, and therefore its other residents.
I just thought that was pretty crappy of her. And of Tigerheart, since he didn't tell Ivypool about the dream, despite knowing that Dovewing had it and why she left.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 17, 2018 21:14:32 GMT -5
No, the dream needed to happen. It made her decision easier and that was key. Dovewing had to leave the lake to have her kits. Partially so the kits wouldn't grow up with the abuse and mistreatment most half Clan cats experience, but it really was about Tigerheart.
If Dovewing hadn't left, then he would have no reason to leave himself. Tigerheart goes through the classic hero's journey in TS and Dovewing's disappearance started it. This journey was necessary to mold him into the leader that ShadowClan needed. (I will expand on this in a new thread.)
So yes, the dream was completely necessary. It was the extra nudge that ultimately made Dovewing leave, thus triggering the events of TS.
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Post by Lady of the Emblem on Apr 17, 2018 21:43:29 GMT -5
No, the dream needed to happen. It made her decision easier and that was key. Dovewing had to leave the lake to have her kits. Partially so the kits wouldn't grow up with the abuse and mistreatment most half Clan cats experience, but it really was about Tigerheart. If Dovewing hadn't left, then he would have no reason to leave himself. Tigerheart goes through the classic hero's journey in TS and Dovewing's disappearance started it. This journey was necessary to mold him into the leader that ShadowClan needed. (I will expand on this in a new thread.) So yes, the dream was completely necessary. It was the extra nudge that ultimately made Dovewing leave, thus triggering the events of TS. there's that one reason that really pisses me off. what abuse would the kits have been met with!? jay, lion, and holly were not abused when their parents were revealed. sure, some of the cats in thunderclan were a little bit weary but no one was like "AAAHH KICK THEM OUT! THEY'RE HALF WINDCLAN!" and no one ever wanted to attack squirrelflight or leafpool for it. heck, leafpool even punished HERSELF just to make things easier on everyone else. it was obvious dovewing and tigerheart were a thing as soon as tigerheart and his family got to thunderclan. i doubt anyone would ever care THAT much, unless i am missing something bc again, i did not read past AVOS Book 3 (skipped book 2 bc B&N didnt have it) and i did not read (and never will read) Tigerheart's Shadow. and you know what, if tigerheart and dovewing had their kits while still in thunderclan together, you'd have to deal with lionblaze, cinderheart, jayfeather, and all the others who like and support lion and jay. i include cinderheart because you best believe she'd not let a fellow she-cat get attacked for having a half clan relationship when her mate, lionblaze, is half clan himself.
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