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Post by suicunetobigaara on Apr 13, 2018 8:27:43 GMT -5
The forbidden couple that we rarely got to see. I wish we saw more of them, because it would have been interesting seeing hints of a forbidden background couple of two cats not in Thunderclan. We barely see the characters at all, aside from when their kits wander into the caves. I was thought that Riverclan took them, but is that because the father is well know or has this couple kept it a secret for this long. I wonder how it was decided to make them a forbidden couple and if they are still together now. I am even curious of Thistleheart, Swallowtail, and/or Sedgewhisker are even aware of their Riverclan blood.
Honestly, I wish we saw a few more hints of this couple, although I can see it being hard since we rarely get a Riverclan or Windclan point of view. Still we had Mistystar's Omen and Willowshine's bonus chapter. Whether it be tension from not being together, or it being noted that they act strangely around each other, I sorta hope for some form of hint.
What do you guys think?
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 13, 2018 9:20:54 GMT -5
Isn’t that no longer canon as it was one of Su’s things?
I’m pretty sure it’s not, so their father is probably just some WindClan tom that wasn’t named, or something.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 13, 2018 10:43:12 GMT -5
I think it's interesting.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 13, 2018 10:44:15 GMT -5
Isn’t that no longer canon as it was one of Su’s things? I’m pretty sure it’s not, so their father is probably just some WindClan tom that wasn’t named, or something. Not at all. It was actually Kate who confirmed it, long before Su began to help Vicky. |
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Post by Fernstep on Apr 13, 2018 12:23:07 GMT -5
I've always thought it would be neat to get a novella about their love.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 13, 2018 12:36:56 GMT -5
I've always thought it would be neat to get a novella about their love. Me too! I think I was trying to write a fanfic about it, but then I just abandoned it for some reason, though I may go back to it. And since Beechfur never appeared again past TFA, I have a theory that he died during the drought. Either that, or it's just a Sneezecloud situation, where he's still around but not listed. But if he is dead, this makes me feel even more bad for Gorsetail: two of her daughters are dead, one of her granddaughters trained in the Dark Forest, and her mate possibly died suffering in a drought. And I know DR came years before this confirmation, but Onestar being so quick to accuse RiverClan of stealing Gorsetail's kits to the point of nearly going to war with them suddenly makes alot more sense now if he knew about the relationship. But after the Crowfeather thing, both WindClan and RiverClan probably wanted to keep it as private as possible. This might also explain RiverClan allying with WindClan in Eclipse if they had some sort of secret alliance going on or something. |
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Post by mothsnap on Apr 13, 2018 13:24:57 GMT -5
Actually I'm pretty sure it's not hinted at all in any of the books. As far as I'm considered it doesn't exist. If the Erins think they can say things in their blogs that aren't in the books at all, they're mistaken. I mean if that was how it worked they could say in the twoleg world ww3 is happening and the fire in the latest book was some sort of terrorist attack.
For me, if it's not actually in the book it doesn't matter at all.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Apr 13, 2018 13:43:13 GMT -5
Actually I'm pretty sure it's not hinted at all in any of the books. As far as I'm considered it doesn't exist. If the Erins think they can say things in their blogs that aren't in the books at all, they're mistaken. I mean if that was how it worked they could say in the twoleg world ww3 is happening and the fire in the latest book was some sort of terrorist attack. For me, if it's not actually in the book it doesn't matter at all. Be wary of that when you debate, then. If the Erins consider it canon, regardless if it's in the books or not, it's canon. |
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Post by mothsnap on Apr 13, 2018 13:45:04 GMT -5
Actually I'm pretty sure it's not hinted at all in any of the books. As far as I'm considered it doesn't exist. If the Erins think they can say things in their blogs that aren't in the books at all, they're mistaken. I mean if that was how it worked they could say in the twoleg world ww3 is happening and the fire in the latest book was some sort of terrorist attack. For me, if it's not actually in the book it doesn't matter at all. Be wary of that when you debate, then. If the Erins consider it canon, regardless if it's in the books or not, it's canon. but that's not how writing works. If it was the Erins wouldn't need to write anything in their books. They're just write blogs about them. |
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Apr 13, 2018 13:47:31 GMT -5
Be wary of that when you debate, then. If the Erins consider it canon, regardless if it's in the books or not, it's canon. but that's not how writing works. If it was the Erins wouldn't need to write anything in their books. They're just write blogs about them. It's still canon. Hate to tell you that, but if you plan on debating, you might as well know the trivia about Warriors, too. |
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Post by mothsnap on Apr 13, 2018 13:50:33 GMT -5
but that's not how writing works. If it was the Erins wouldn't need to write anything in their books. They're just write blogs about them. It's still canon. Hate to tell you that, but if you plan on debating, you might as well know the trivia about Warriors, too. It is not. The definition of canon is "a collection or list of sacred books accepted as genuine." or "the works of a particular author or artist that are recognized as genuine." And I don't. If I am forced to drop my reader standards THAT low I'd rather... well it wouldn't be appropriate to say what |
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Apr 13, 2018 13:53:50 GMT -5
It is, get angry all you'd like but what the Erins say is canon. You don't have to be part of the fandom if that bothers you. |
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Post by mothsnap on Apr 13, 2018 14:34:31 GMT -5
what I'm saying is that it's a lazy way to do things. very lazy
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Post by Lady of the Emblem on Apr 13, 2018 14:36:44 GMT -5
sometimes i miss su susan and her suspicious van
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Post by gonxkillua on Apr 13, 2018 18:23:12 GMT -5
Be wary of that when you debate, then. If the Erins consider it canon, regardless if it's in the books or not, it's canon. but that's not how writing works. If it was the Erins wouldn't need to write anything in their books. They're just write blogs about them. It's called word of god my friend |
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Post by mothsnap on Apr 13, 2018 18:29:07 GMT -5
gonxkillua but why is it significant if it isn't actually even hinted at in the story? I can say anything I want is secretly happening in the background of the books, but if there's no evidence there's not point! It's just lazy and silly
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Post by gonxkillua on Apr 13, 2018 18:31:50 GMT -5
Whatever the author/writer of a work fiction says goes. That's just how it works, the erins are far from the only writers to say something is canon on the internet and not in the work itself.
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Post by mothsnap on Apr 13, 2018 18:38:56 GMT -5
stephanie meyers might say bella swam is a strong character and her romance with edward isn't at all toxic. Doesn't make it true. there's nothing in the text to support it at all. that's why i think all this is LAZY
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Post by gonxkillua on Apr 13, 2018 18:43:49 GMT -5
That's more about saying that you are free to interrupt the themes of the a the way you want . When I said what the author said goes I meant just in the canon/ order of events way. |
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Post by Owlmoon on Apr 13, 2018 20:35:43 GMT -5
I think that would be interesting. I would probably read that if it were made into a book.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 2:50:50 GMT -5
I kind of hope this is still canon. As it would remind us that the world is larger then just the main character and that the background characters still lead their lives/personality. It helps make the world feel more vast and alive. I wish they did this more often, where we gets those smaller character moments from Background characters, for example, telling a funny story at a gathering, instead of it ending with clouds covering the moon for 10th time in a row.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 14, 2018 3:18:57 GMT -5
I kind of hope this is still canon. As it would remind us that the world is larger then just the main character and that the background characters still lead their lives/personality. It helps make the world feel more vast and alive. I wish they did this more often, where we gets those smaller character moments from Background characters, for example, telling a funny story at a gathering, instead of it ending with clouds covering the moon for 10th time in a row. My exact feelings on this. World building is so important in any story. They obviously can't add in every single detail of what is going on throughout the universe; otherwise each book would be thousands of pages long. I love little tidbits like this and in a way, it's kind of like drama irony in this case when rereading DR.
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