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Post by oceanstar on Aug 13, 2016 14:23:34 GMT -5
If you choose Clear Sky we can't be friends anymore xD.
Seriously though, that guy was almost as infuriating as Tigerstar (although the Bone Hill scene gave Tigerstar the W).
Anyway, my fav is Thunder, as you can tell by my avatar lol
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Post by Marcel on Aug 13, 2016 14:27:57 GMT -5
Clear Sky actually is my favorite though. He didn't do anything necessarily terrible, and he definitely wasn't as bad as Broken/Tigerstar. The only things that he did that I view as bad is initiate the first battle and kill Misty, but killing her wasn't his fault. He gave her the option to leave.
I think he was misunderstood and I love him ;-;
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Post by Wolfdusk on Aug 13, 2016 14:28:01 GMT -5
My favorite is also Thunder, but Tall Shadow is a close second.
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Post by oceanstar on Aug 13, 2016 14:29:13 GMT -5
Clear Sky actually is my favorite though. He didn't do anything necessarily terrible, and he definitely wasn't as bad as Broken/Tigerstar. The only things that he did that I view as bad is initiate the first battle and kill Misty, but killing her wasn't his fault. He gave her the option to leave. I think he was misunderstood and I love him ;-; What about turning away his own son? And attacking his own brother?
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Post by Woofzie on Aug 13, 2016 14:29:15 GMT -5
Even if I love Clear Sky, Tall Shadow and I like Wind Runner, River Ripple gets all my love. He's my fav of all, so wise and calm... it's a shame we know so little of him. I was expecting for the next novella to be about him but it's about Thunder... oh, well...
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Post by oceanstar on Aug 13, 2016 14:30:46 GMT -5
Oh and I think we all would choose Gray Wing if he were a leader. I swear he was reincarnated into Firestar; they're both so nice xD
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Post by Yoshimi on Aug 13, 2016 14:33:02 GMT -5
River Ripple died without having kits
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Post by oceanstar on Aug 13, 2016 14:35:28 GMT -5
Even if I love Clear Sky, Tall Shadow and I like Wind Runner, River Ripple gets all my love. He's my fav of all, so wise and calm... it's a shame we know so little of him. I was expecting for the next novella to be about him but it's about Thunder... oh, well... What's the novella about Thunder called?
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Post by Woofzie on Aug 13, 2016 14:38:08 GMT -5
Even if I love Clear Sky, Tall Shadow and I like Wind Runner, River Ripple gets all my love. He's my fav of all, so wise and calm... it's a shame we know so little of him. I was expecting for the next novella to be about him but it's about Thunder... oh, well... What's the novella about Thunder called? Thunder's Echo, I think.
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Post by oceanstar on Aug 13, 2016 14:39:38 GMT -5
What's the novella about Thunder called? Thunder's Echo, I think. I want an Ancient Tribe novella. I know we have Sign of the Moon, but like I want a novella about Midnight and Rock back in that time. That would be so cool
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Post by Bluebell on Aug 13, 2016 14:39:39 GMT -5
Clear Sky actually is my favorite though. He didn't do anything necessarily terrible, and he definitely wasn't as bad as Broken/Tigerstar. The only things that he did that I view as bad is initiate the first battle and kill Misty, but killing her wasn't his fault. He gave her the option to leave. I think he was misunderstood and I love him ;-; What about turning away his own son? And attacking his own brother? He also took Jackdaw Cry as hostage and starved him, despite one of the reasons he claimed to be bad was because of Fluttering Bird starving at the Tribe. To make it worse, Jackdaw Cry was also from the Tribe and would know the pain of starving and suffering in general so I don't know why of all cats, he'd do that to Jackdaw Cry.
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Post by oceanstar on Aug 13, 2016 14:41:15 GMT -5
What about turning away his own son? And attacking his own brother? He also took Jackdaw Cry as hostage and starved him, despite one of the reasons he claimed to be bad was because of Fluttering Bird starving at the Tribe. To make it worse, Jackdaw Cry was also from the Tribe and would know the pain of starving and suffering in general so I don't know why of all cats, he'd do that to Jackdaw Cry. KORRA!!!1! edit: OHHH I get it! Your avatar is a picture of The Avatar xDxDxD
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Post by Woofzie on Aug 13, 2016 14:43:36 GMT -5
I want an Ancient Tribe novella. I know we have Sign of the Moon, but like I want a novella about Midnight and Rock back in that time. That would be so cool I really want an Ancient novella, too. I don't care about who, we know so little about them that ANY would be interesting and new. Besides, I'm dissapointed. I expected that the third novella would be about some cat that never got his own PoV in DotC... and we got Thunder, again.
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Post by Bluebell on Aug 13, 2016 14:43:56 GMT -5
He also took Jackdaw Cry as hostage and starved him, despite one of the reasons he claimed to be bad was because of Fluttering Bird starving at the Tribe. To make it worse, Jackdaw Cry was also from the Tribe and would know the pain of starving and suffering in general so I don't know why of all cats, he'd do that to Jackdaw Cry. KORRA!!!1! edit: OHHH I get it! Your avatar is a picture of The Avatar xDxDxD "Hello, Zuko here." Yup
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Post by Marcel on Aug 13, 2016 14:44:01 GMT -5
Clear Sky actually is my favorite though. He didn't do anything necessarily terrible, and he definitely wasn't as bad as Broken/Tigerstar. The only things that he did that I view as bad is initiate the first battle and kill Misty, but killing her wasn't his fault. He gave her the option to leave. I think he was misunderstood and I love him ;-; What about turning away his own son? And attacking his own brother? Plenty of warriors are forced/decide to attack and even kill their own family or loved ones. Turning away his own son was only out of guilt that he would not raise him correctly and that he would disappoint Storm in turn. He accepted Thunder later and invited him into his clan. It was Thunder who decided to leave his father after that point. The Erins basically designed Clear Sky to be disliked by fans, but he has the most realistic approaches to problems.
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Post by oceanstar on Aug 13, 2016 14:48:57 GMT -5
What about turning away his own son? And attacking his own brother? Plenty of warriors are forced/decide to attack and even kill their own family or loved ones. Turning away his own son was only out of guilt that he would not raise him correctly and that he would disappoint Storm in turn. He accepted Thunder later and invited him into his clan. It was Thunder who decided to leave his father after that point. The Erins basically designed Clear Sky to be disliked by fans, but he has the most realistic approaches to problems. He's the once who started all the problems in the forest. There should be never been a divide between the two groups of cats. At least not while the two groups were made up of cats who were family and former tribemates. Maybe in the future the divides between the two camps would deepen, but it only happened so quickly because Clear Sky saw his group as "his cats" more than he cared about family.
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Post by Marcel on Aug 13, 2016 14:55:08 GMT -5
Plenty of warriors are forced/decide to attack and even kill their own family or loved ones. Turning away his own son was only out of guilt that he would not raise him correctly and that he would disappoint Storm in turn. He accepted Thunder later and invited him into his clan. It was Thunder who decided to leave his father after that point. The Erins basically designed Clear Sky to be disliked by fans, but he has the most realistic approaches to problems. He's the once who started all the problems in the forest. There should be never been a divide between the two groups of cats. At least not while the two groups were made up of cats who were family and former tribemates. Maybe in the future the divides between the two camps would deepen, but it only happened so quickly because Clear Sky saw his group as "his cats" more than he cared about family. When it comes to family in warrior cats, the group matters more than your kin according to the code. It's even stated that decisions have to be made based off of flat viewing of 'these are cats' instead of 'those are my friends, those are my family, and those are my enemies'. Decisions have to benefit the group that you're leading and not the groups that threaten your prey and territory. I saw Clear Sky as a chaotic neutral, someone who does things off their whims and are unpredictable but not random. He made decisions based on a flat of 'what can I do to help these cats that have followed me instead of Gray Wing?'. It was not entirely his fault that the split was made. Some cats wanted to live in the moor while others wanted to live in the forest. Clear Sky was only the one who took the initiative of the forest, not the one who created the problems in general. There would be no such thing as clans if Clear Sky had not done what he did. It would only be a large group that would be hard to feed during leaf-bare and hard to heal if anything happened to go wrong. They were just dividing their supplies by diving their groups. There are even some cats that still share the mindset of 'if this cat cannot help me, then he must leave. He is not benefiting my group and he is hindering it instead.'
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Post by oceanstar on Aug 13, 2016 15:02:33 GMT -5
He's the once who started all the problems in the forest. There should be never been a divide between the two groups of cats. At least not while the two groups were made up of cats who were family and former tribemates. Maybe in the future the divides between the two camps would deepen, but it only happened so quickly because Clear Sky saw his group as "his cats" more than he cared about family. When it comes to family in warrior cats, the group matters more than your kin according to the code. It's even stated that decisions have to be made based off of flat viewing of 'these are cats' instead of 'those are my friends, those are my family, and those are my enemies'. Decisions have to benefit the group that you're leading and not the groups that threaten your prey and territory. I saw Clear Sky as a chaotic neutral, someone who does things off their whims and are unpredictable but not random. He made decisions based on a flat of 'what can I do to help these cats that have followed me instead of Gray Wing?'. It was not entirely his fault that the split was made. Some cats wanted to live in the moor while others wanted to live in the forest. Clear Sky was only the one who took the initiative of the forest, not the one who created the problems in general. There would be no such thing as clans if Clear Sky had not done what he did. It would only be a large group that would be hard to feed during leaf-bare and hard to heal if anything happened to go wrong. They were just dividing their supplies by diving their groups. There are even some cats that still share the mindset of 'if this cat cannot help me, then he must leave. He is not benefiting my group and he is hindering it instead.' And warring Clans was never really the goal. It ended up happening that way, but it seems wrong that clans who have ample territory and prey always have to fight and be hostile with each other. Rusty understood this when he first came to the forest and couldn't understand why the clans were so hostile. All of that hostility began with Clear Sky. And even with StarClan's intervention after the Fourtrees battle, the Clans have always been two steps from battling like that again and wiping each other out. The prospect of the Clans has always been a ticking time bomb. I guess the Erins justify their survival by the constant intervention of StarClan, but at the same time that's paradoxical, because StarClan has justified their reason for not interfering by saying they don't want to endanger the free will of the live cats. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Post by Marcel on Aug 13, 2016 15:18:20 GMT -5
When it comes to family in warrior cats, the group matters more than your kin according to the code. It's even stated that decisions have to be made based off of flat viewing of 'these are cats' instead of 'those are my friends, those are my family, and those are my enemies'. Decisions have to benefit the group that you're leading and not the groups that threaten your prey and territory. I saw Clear Sky as a chaotic neutral, someone who does things off their whims and are unpredictable but not random. He made decisions based on a flat of 'what can I do to help these cats that have followed me instead of Gray Wing?'. It was not entirely his fault that the split was made. Some cats wanted to live in the moor while others wanted to live in the forest. Clear Sky was only the one who took the initiative of the forest, not the one who created the problems in general. There would be no such thing as clans if Clear Sky had not done what he did. It would only be a large group that would be hard to feed during leaf-bare and hard to heal if anything happened to go wrong. They were just dividing their supplies by diving their groups. There are even some cats that still share the mindset of 'if this cat cannot help me, then he must leave. He is not benefiting my group and he is hindering it instead.' And warring Clans was never really the goal. It ended up happening that way, but it seems wrong that clans who have ample territory and prey always have to fight and be hostile with each other. Rusty understood this when he first came to the forest and couldn't understand why the clans were so hostile. All of that hostility began with Clear Sky. And even with StarClan's intervention after the Fourtrees battle, the Clans have always been two steps from battling like that again and wiping each other out. The prospect of the Clans has always been a ticking time bomb. I guess the Erins justify their survival by the constant intervention of StarClan, but at the same time that's paradoxical, because StarClan has justified their reason for not interfering by saying they don't want to endanger the free will of the live cats. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Killing is how clans live in my mind. If cats never died due to battle or were always being aided by the other clans, the wild would easily overpopulate with the wild cats and then they would proceed to die from starvation. The hostility is basically a reminder that cats need to die for the clans to survive, regardless of whether or not it's naturally or through battle. Think of it how you want, but my opinion won't be swayed. I see Clear Sky as a great leader, if not one of the best, and one of the leaders that understood the need for hostility and death in the clans.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 15:21:19 GMT -5
Even if I love Clear Sky, Tall Shadow and I like Wind Runner, River Ripple gets all my love. He's my fav of all, so wise and calm... it's a shame we know so little of him. I was expecting for the next novella to be about him but it's about Thunder... oh, well... Same.
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Post by Sweetsun on Feb 8, 2024 15:46:45 GMT -5
♡First Vote for Wind Runner♡
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Feb 8, 2024 17:47:14 GMT -5
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