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Post by Chocolate-Fawn on Feb 17, 2018 16:28:46 GMT -5
Do you think Rainflower should be in the Dark Forest?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 18:49:32 GMT -5
No
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 19:04:15 GMT -5
Not really. Even if she's one of the worst Warriors mothers, she'd have to do something very bad to earn the Dark Forest, like murder or treason.
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Post by chimken nugget on Feb 17, 2018 19:22:01 GMT -5
No, I hate her but she didn't do anything that would send her to the Dark Forest.
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Post by *Faith* on Feb 17, 2018 20:30:39 GMT -5
Nope. I do hate her, but she didn't do anything bad enough for the Dark Forest.
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Post by gonxkillua on Feb 17, 2018 21:18:50 GMT -5
No, as much as I hate her she does not deserve the DF as she never killed anyone or tried to.
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Post by Basement Cat on Feb 17, 2018 22:16:19 GMT -5
She deserves worse than the DF. Send her to hell.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 0:22:21 GMT -5
there’s a special place in hell for parents that abuse their children -
this is just the cat equivalent
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Feb 18, 2018 12:43:57 GMT -5
Mapleshade would probably beat the stars out of her, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 13:48:17 GMT -5
It seems that murder or loyalty to a murderer seems to be the only thing that lands you in the Dark Forest, so no. Rainflower was a neglectful mother, but apart from that, nothing else, she never killed anyone or abused anyone. I'd say Lizardstripe is much worse in that Category, going out of her way to make sure Brokenkit didn't feel welcome. She only took him in because she thought she would look good for taking in the Deputy's kit. She doesn't even care about any of her own kits, calling them 'brats' and wanting them out the way as soon as possible. At least Rainflower cared for Oakkit.
While Su's Dark Forest cats were still canon, this was especially bad as Brokenstar, Deerfoot and Tangleburr were all there. So that meant, 3 out of her 4 had ended up in the Dark Forest, while she's living it up in Starclan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 14:43:46 GMT -5
considering brightflower is there yes. Brightflower being in the Dark Forest, was confirmed by Su, a fan who's ideas just get the thumbs up from Vicky but Vicky later stated they were simply Su's headcanons and weren't canon. So Brightflower is no longer in the Dark Forest.
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Post by Holly Snow on Feb 18, 2018 15:20:10 GMT -5
considering brightflower is there yes. Brightflower being in the Dark Forest, was confirmed by Su, a fan who's ideas just get the thumbs up from Vicky but Vicky later stated they were simply Su's headcanons and weren't canon. So Brightflower is no longer in the Dark Forest. sadly vicky confirmed these to be true seperately so they are still canon.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 18, 2018 15:28:52 GMT -5
I don't think so, considering she was still loyal to her Clan. What she did was still horrible, though.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 18, 2018 15:33:52 GMT -5
Brightflower being in the Dark Forest, was confirmed by Su, a fan who's ideas just get the thumbs up from Vicky but Vicky later stated they were simply Su's headcanons and weren't canon. So Brightflower is no longer in the Dark Forest. sadly vicky confirmed these to be true seperately so they are still canon. Adding on to this, Vicky only said that Missing Kits were Su's headcanons (despite previous statements implying they were canon). All the other stuff seemed to be true and came directly from Vicky's notes. The information isn't on the wiki anymore though, and that might be because Su deleted her account.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 16:13:58 GMT -5
Brightflower being in the Dark Forest, was confirmed by Su, a fan who's ideas just get the thumbs up from Vicky but Vicky later stated they were simply Su's headcanons and weren't canon. So Brightflower is no longer in the Dark Forest. sadly vicky confirmed these to be true seperately so they are still canon. If Vicky confirmed those herself, wouldn't it be on the Wiki? I checked and Brightheart's afterlife is not stated because it's not known. Can you give me a link to where she says this? Or at least tell me where you heard it?
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 18, 2018 16:25:50 GMT -5
sadly vicky confirmed these to be true seperately so they are still canon. If Vicky confirmed those herself, wouldn't it be on the Wiki? I checked and Brightheart's afterlife is not stated because it's not known. Can you give me a link to where she says this? Or at least tell me where you heard it? I actually already answered this in a post before yours. The reason it might not be on the wiki anymore might be because Su deleted her account.
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Post by leafy on Feb 20, 2018 15:15:19 GMT -5
No, cause despite the fact she was horrible for just abandoning Crookedstar for no real reason, she did in her way love him. She just blamed herself for what happened. So she acted like she didn't care.
Still hate her.
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Post by streamflower on Feb 20, 2018 16:17:56 GMT -5
Whether or not Brightflower is in Starclan or the Dark Forest, I don't really understand why she'd go to the latter of the two. Yes, she was a little harsh to Yellowfang at times, and yes, she believed that Yellowfang murdered her kits, but how is believing someone committed a crime deserving of the Dark Forest?
On the other hand--I believe Rainflower deserves the Dark Forest. Abusive parents don't sit well with me. Brightflower may have accused Yellowfang, but only after Yellowfang brought back her brutally murdered kits to camp. She clearly wouldn't be thinking straight, where Rainflower just gets frustrated and treats one of her kits terribly because her son isn't pretty anymore.
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Post by Chocolate-Fawn on Feb 20, 2018 19:25:16 GMT -5
Whether or not Brightflower is in Starclan or the Dark Forest, I don't really understand why she'd go to the latter of the two. Yes, she was a little harsh to Yellowfang at times, and yes, she believed that Yellowfang murdered her kits, but how is believing someone committed a crime deserving of the Dark Forest? On the other hand--I believe Rainflower deserves the Dark Forest. Abusive parents don't sit well with me. Brightflower may have accused Yellowfang, but only after Yellowfang brought back her brutally murdered kits to camp. She clearly wouldn't be thinking straight, where Rainflower just gets frustrated and treats one of her kits terribly because her son isn't pretty anymore. I agree with you. There's actually a cat known as Lilywhisker who's in the Dark Forest for no reason.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 19:43:55 GMT -5
Whether or not Brightflower is in Starclan or the Dark Forest, I don't really understand why she'd go to the latter of the two. Yes, she was a little harsh to Yellowfang at times, and yes, she believed that Yellowfang murdered her kits, but how is believing someone committed a crime deserving of the Dark Forest? On the other hand--I believe Rainflower deserves the Dark Forest. Abusive parents don't sit well with me. Brightflower may have accused Yellowfang, but only after Yellowfang brought back her brutally murdered kits to camp. She clearly wouldn't be thinking straight, where Rainflower just gets frustrated and treats one of her kits terribly because her son isn't pretty anymore. I agree with you. There's actually a cat known as Lilywhisker who's in the Dark Forest for no reason. Wasn't the reason because she couldn't get over her leg injury? Even so, it was still a pretty stupid reason. Cinderpelt got her leg crushed by a car, but she's never really let it get her down. Heck, she even got reincarnated or possessed Cinderheart or whatever and made it into StarClan.
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Post by Darkfang ☾ on Feb 23, 2018 17:39:56 GMT -5
eh, if brightflower and lillywisker are in the dark forest then i think rainflower should be too as her crime is comparable. however, of those cats are not in the dark forest and the df really is a place just for evil, murderer cats then no i don't think she does deserve the dark forest.
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