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Post by Splintercat on Sept 23, 2016 17:51:53 GMT -5
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Post by Sour Candy on Sept 23, 2016 17:51:53 GMT -5
@spottedstar3137 Hiya! How are you?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 17:53:03 GMT -5
Not bad, you?
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#add8e6
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Sept 23, 2016 17:53:17 GMT -5
*rolls in* Hi everyone!
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Post by Sour Candy on Sept 23, 2016 17:54:48 GMT -5
I'm doing alright, just trying to deal with a few personal problems. Good to hear you're doing fine
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 17:55:57 GMT -5
Ah I hope you can sort those problems out! Those are never fun.
Hi Raven!
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Post by Soαrιɴɢ Bloѕѕoмѕ ✿ on Sept 23, 2016 17:59:28 GMT -5
God's not Dead had a sequel????
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Post by Soαrιɴɢ Bloѕѕoмѕ ✿ on Sept 23, 2016 17:59:41 GMT -5
Loved that movie btw
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Post by Splintercat on Sept 23, 2016 18:02:53 GMT -5
Meh, I thought it was ok. I thought it was decent when I saw it, but it misrepresented atheists and could have been way better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:04:26 GMT -5
Christian movies are so cheeeappppp.
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#add8e6
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Sept 23, 2016 18:04:54 GMT -5
God's not Dead had a sequel???? Yes it does! It's pretty amazing.
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Post by Frozen on Sept 23, 2016 18:13:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I've been here before. I change my screenname a lot. It was previously Winter, and before that Frozensnarl, which was my name on the old forums.
How's everyone?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:18:35 GMT -5
Anyone read Romans at all?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:21:43 GMT -5
I didddd I didn't take notes tho oops
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:23:39 GMT -5
That's fine. We still have the Chatzy room (as Splintercat so gloriously remembered hahaha)... wanna head over there?
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Post by Splintercat on Sept 23, 2016 18:23:46 GMT -5
So we totally forgot about the Bible study three weeks in a row now, and nobody's used the Chatzy room. Should we just ditch the Chatzy idea and talk about it here? Doesn't seem like there'll be as much traffic for the study as we originally thought.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:24:35 GMT -5
I'd be more open to discussing it here. I can edit my posts more easily.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:25:20 GMT -5
Discussing it here is fine! ^.^
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Post by Splintercat on Sept 23, 2016 18:26:31 GMT -5
Alright, let's do it. My Bible class actually started studying Romans last week, so that's nice timing. Anyone have any thoughts or notes?
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Post by e11e on Sept 23, 2016 18:28:00 GMT -5
Hey
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:28:35 GMT -5
Just chapter 1 right?
Hi Elle!
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Post by Splintercat on Sept 23, 2016 18:30:21 GMT -5
Just chapter 1 right? Hi Elle! Well we're supposed to be on chapter 3 now, but we might as well go for all three at once
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:30:27 GMT -5
Introduction: Romans was probably written during Paul’s third missionary journey from Corinth, around/in the winter and early spring of AD 56-57. The epistle (or letter... to Rome from Corinth) was written when Paul was about to set out for Jerusalem (15:25). Paul also considers himself to have completed his missionary work among the eastern provinces of the Roman Empire (15:19, 23), therefore, the journey is probably the one recorded in Acts 20-21, which begins from Corinth (Acts 19:21; 20:1-3). Since the book has so many doctrines, Paul wanted to instruct the Romans in their faith. Romans is, in my opinion, one of the greatest theological books in the Bible. Paul ties in the Old Testament and Old Covenant into the New Covenant (New Testament was not yet completed). Romans 1 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, and set apart for the gospel of God— The word used for "servant" here is δοῦλος (doulos). This word is used 35 times in the NT, and is also translated as "slave." So did Paul consider himself a slave to Christ? It's not wrongly translated "servant" in this context as the compulsory and degrading side of service is not put forward, but as we know, the idea of “slavery” in the present day has altogether different associations. The most commonly referenced type of slavery in the OT was actually voluntary servitude by the sons of Israel (indentured servants). Those who needed assistance, could not pay their debts, or needed protection from another were allowed, under Biblical law, to become indentured servants (Ex. 21:2-6; Deut. 15:12-18). They were dependent on their master instead of the state. This was a way to aid the poor and give them an opportunity to get back on their feet. It was not permanent and could be likened more to an employee-employer relationship today, rather than the forced and abusive slavery we are so familiar with here in America. In this connection, Paul's use of "doulos" makes perfect sense: Paul, like all men, has a debt he cannot repay (sin), needs assistance, and protection from punishment (salvation). Thus, he is a deliberate and willful servant of Jesus Christ. Looking at "set apart for": ἀφωρισμένος (aphōrismenos); also translated "separated." Compare Acts 13:2 (“Separate me Barnabas and Saul”), where human instruments—the leaders of the Church at Antioch—are employed to carry out the divine will. The reference here is to the historical fact of the selection of St. Paul to be an Apostle; in Galatians 1:15 (“it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb”), it is rather to the more distant act of divine predestination. Paul is saying, by being set apart for the gospel of God, that he was chosen to teach it, i.e., "called to be an apostle". Singled out and set apart to convey the message of salvation from God to man. 1:2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures The Gospel is not, in principle, a new thing. On the contrary, God promised it before, through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures. It is the fulfillment of hopes that God Himself inspired. The prophetic writings describe not only salvation, the substance of the gospel, but also the preaching of salvation, the gospel itself. 1:3 regarding his Son, who as to his earthly life was a descendant of David, I.e., of the virgin Mary, who was of David’s lineage and posterity; the promise was expressly that the Messiah should be “of the fruit of his loins”. See Acts 2:30 (compare Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, Ezekiel 34:24). This promise was so fully known to the Jews, that when they spoke of the Messiah, they called him “the Son of David” (see Matthew 21:9 and 22:42; Mark 10:47-48). Thus, Jesus fulfilled the prophecy of being a descendant of David. 1:4 and who through the Spirit of holiness was appointed the Son of God in power by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord. NIV reads “appointed”; I prefer KJV, which reads “declared to be”. Jesus in His humiliation (that is, His humbled and human state) was despised and rejected (Isaiah 53:3). He spoke as the Son of the Father (John 5:19-23), but was persecuted because He “said also that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God” (John 5:18). At the cross, his sonship was called into question (Matthew 27:39-43), but the Holy Spirit raised Him from the dead. This event set Him apart (again, singled out) as God’s unique Son, exalted over death and Satan, invested with all power (Matthew 28:18). Bringing this back. Anyone have any comments?
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Post by Splintercat on Sept 23, 2016 18:32:02 GMT -5
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Post by Splintercat on Sept 23, 2016 18:37:06 GMT -5
Introduction: Romans was probably written during Paul’s third missionary journey from Corinth, around/in the winter and early spring of AD 56-57. The epistle (or letter... to Rome from Corinth) was written when Paul was about to set out for Jerusalem (15:25). Paul also considers himself to have completed his missionary work among the eastern provinces of the Roman Empire (15:19, 23), therefore, the journey is probably the one recorded in Acts 20-21, which begins from Corinth (Acts 19:21; 20:1-3). Since the book has so many doctrines, Paul wanted to instruct the Romans in their faith. Romans is, in my opinion, one of the greatest theological books in the Bible. Paul ties in the Old Testament and Old Covenant into the New Covenant (New Testament was not yet completed). Romans 1 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, and set apart for the gospel of God— The word used for "servant" here is δοῦλος (doulos). This word is used 35 times in the NT, and is also translated as "slave." So did Paul consider himself a slave to Christ? It's not wrongly translated "servant" in this context as the compulsory and degrading side of service is not put forward, but as we know, the idea of “slavery” in the present day has altogether different associations. The most commonly referenced type of slavery in the OT was actually voluntary servitude by the sons of Israel (indentured servants). Those who needed assistance, could not pay their debts, or needed protection from another were allowed, under Biblical law, to become indentured servants (Ex. 21:2-6; Deut. 15:12-18). They were dependent on their master instead of the state. This was a way to aid the poor and give them an opportunity to get back on their feet. It was not permanent and could be likened more to an employee-employer relationship today, rather than the forced and abusive slavery we are so familiar with here in America. In this connection, Paul's use of "doulos" makes perfect sense: Paul, like all men, has a debt he cannot repay (sin), needs assistance, and protection from punishment (salvation). Thus, he is a deliberate and willful servant of Jesus Christ. Looking at "set apart for": ἀφωρισμένος (aphōrismenos); also translated "separated." Compare Acts 13:2 (“Separate me Barnabas and Saul”), where human instruments—the leaders of the Church at Antioch—are employed to carry out the divine will. The reference here is to the historical fact of the selection of St. Paul to be an Apostle; in Galatians 1:15 (“it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb”), it is rather to the more distant act of divine predestination. Paul is saying, by being set apart for the gospel of God, that he was chosen to teach it, i.e., "called to be an apostle". Singled out and set apart to convey the message of salvation from God to man. 1:2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures The Gospel is not, in principle, a new thing. On the contrary, God promised it before, through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures. It is the fulfillment of hopes that God Himself inspired. The prophetic writings describe not only salvation, the substance of the gospel, but also the preaching of salvation, the gospel itself. 1:3 regarding his Son, who as to his earthly life was a descendant of David, I.e., of the virgin Mary, who was of David’s lineage and posterity; the promise was expressly that the Messiah should be “of the fruit of his loins”. See Acts 2:30 (compare Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, Ezekiel 34:24). This promise was so fully known to the Jews, that when they spoke of the Messiah, they called him “the Son of David” (see Matthew 21:9 and 22:42; Mark 10:47-48). Thus, Jesus fulfilled the prophecy of being a descendant of David. 1:4 and who through the Spirit of holiness was appointed the Son of God in power by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord. NIV reads “appointed”; I prefer KJV, which reads “declared to be”. Jesus in His humiliation (that is, His humbled and human state) was despised and rejected (Isaiah 53:3). He spoke as the Son of the Father (John 5:19-23), but was persecuted because He “said also that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God” (John 5:18). At the cross, his sonship was called into question (Matthew 27:39-43), but the Holy Spirit raised Him from the dead. This event set Him apart (again, singled out) as God’s unique Son, exalted over death and Satan, invested with all power (Matthew 28:18). Bringing this back. Anyone have any comments? Nah, that's pretty great. I really love Romans. Paul is just such a great author.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:45:10 GMT -5
Faith is a gift. I don't just choose to worship God... I get to. Too often I think we forget the very purpose of our spreading the Gospel. If it is not done with love and obedience by faith, what good is it?
You're right, Tree... I love Paul's writing.
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Post by e11e on Sept 23, 2016 18:47:51 GMT -5
Hi!(: how's it going?
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Post by Splintercat on Sept 23, 2016 18:53:16 GMT -5
Pretty good! How about you?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:55:05 GMT -5
Wow you went deep, Jess! your point about 1:5 is important. Sometimes I get a little prideful and feel like I'M the one who can change hearts and have others come to Christ, but that's not how it works.
I also find that in the next few verses, when Paul brings up how he wants to see them and help them grown in their faith, is very important as well. We really need to be fellowshiping with each other and helping each other to learn and grow.
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Post by Splintercat on Sept 23, 2016 18:59:48 GMT -5
Wow you went deep, Jess! your point about 1:5 is important. Sometimes I get a little prideful and feel like I'M the one who can change hearts and have others come to Christ, but that's not how it works. I also find that in the next few verses, when Paul brings up how he wants to see them and help them grown in their faith, is very important as well. We really need to be fellowshiping with each other and helping each other to learn and grow. Yeah. I have to deal with pride a lot, and constantly have to remind myself of the grace that Christ showed me.
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