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Post by Krypтoɴ on Sept 8, 2016 22:25:49 GMT -5
i'd like to go every Sunday, it's just up to my family and they never get up to go. plus i get nervous about bad things happening (like shootings and stuff) and it makes me afraid to go out for extended periods of time. (i know it sounds ridiculous but it's a genuine fear i have)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 22:27:31 GMT -5
I just realized hearts changed her name and pic xDDD What gave it away? Hehe. You can still call me Hearts, though. Decided to go with a butterfly theme since I've been playing Life Is Strange obsessively.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 22:28:06 GMT -5
i'd like to go every Sunday, it's just up to my family and they never get up to go. plus i get nervous about bad things happening (like shootings and stuff) and it makes me afraid to go out for extended periods of time. (i know it sounds ridiculous but it's a genuine fear i have) im not gonna lie, i have the same fears. im a very paranoid person and tend to freak out about everything. i know it's a problem and i need to trust God but dang im just so paranoid lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 22:29:23 GMT -5
I just realized hearts changed her name and pic xDDD What gave it away? Hehe. You can still call me Hearts, though. Decided to go with a butterfly theme since I've been playing Life Is Strange obsessively. LOL xD i was like who is this person posting so much?? XD ahhh I love that game! Never actually played it but I know the story, it's really great! ^.^
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Post by Krypтoɴ on Sept 8, 2016 22:31:14 GMT -5
i'd like to go every Sunday, it's just up to my family and they never get up to go. plus i get nervous about bad things happening (like shootings and stuff) and it makes me afraid to go out for extended periods of time. (i know it sounds ridiculous but it's a genuine fear i have) im not gonna lie, i have the same fears. im a very paranoid person and tend to freak out about everything. i know it's a problem and i need to trust God but dang im just so paranoid lol yeah i'll go a few days thinking "everythings ok" but then i see the news and get scared again
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 22:32:11 GMT -5
i'd like to go every Sunday, it's just up to my family and they never get up to go. plus i get nervous about bad things happening (like shootings and stuff) and it makes me afraid to go out for extended periods of time. (i know it sounds ridiculous but it's a genuine fear i have) Ahh. I get ya. Unfortunately, that's the sad reality we're living in... fears like that aren't exactly irrational anymore. Of course, you can always examine the Word through study and prayer in your own time, but I know (from experience) that it can be difficult to stay focused. :/ We're always here for you, in any case. Don't feel like you're somehow 'less' of a Christian because you can't get to church... we're all equally justified in Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 22:32:31 GMT -5
im not gonna lie, i have the same fears. im a very paranoid person and tend to freak out about everything. i know it's a problem and i need to trust God but dang im just so paranoid lol yeah i'll go a few days thinking "everythings ok" but then i see the news and get scared again same that's why i try not to watch the news
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Post by Light on Sept 8, 2016 23:39:12 GMT -5
XD Thank you Shadow! And since you mentioned it, Petalouda, I shall check out Mere Christianity first.
I have a major flaw I definitely need to work on. My laziness... That is why I'm not writing that letter yet. I procrastinate, always finding an excuse. Leaving those boiling ideas in my head to evaporate. I'll read these books, and see how I can fit them in this letter. XD Maybe I am lazy because I pick the hard way too often...
Also, since she has a strong love for animals. I can just see her asking in her head, "If God cares even for the smallest of animals, why did He let people sacrifice them for Him." I was wondering if any of you had a reasonable response to that. It's one of the few conflicts I've located that I've had trouble thinking up an answer to explain to her.
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Post by Light on Sept 9, 2016 0:27:13 GMT -5
Thank you. I had pieced most of that together in my mind, but seeing it written helped. For some reason I seem to think in feelings before translating into words. It's odd. ^^ This should help in my explanation. I have a feeling she'll be a bit displeased with the sacrifice of life. ): I myself have always admired sacrifice and selflessness. Without Jesus' sacrifice, many people might have never have realized the truth, the love. There is much more, but I can't think too well this late at night.
What amazes me, is that in many cultures it mentions a man of virgin birth. I really want to look into it and see if they all mean Jesus.
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Dawnsky13
I hope someday I’ll be okay again...
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Post by Dawnsky13 on Sept 9, 2016 9:11:13 GMT -5
Just an update: The discussion went well! I was just nervous because on my paper it said we were doing a small and large group discussion, but it ended up only being a discussion with three other people, which is much more manageable for me. So thanks to all of you who prayed for me, and thank you Jesus!❤️
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 9:38:36 GMT -5
Yay that's awesome Dawn!
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Sept 9, 2016 10:08:49 GMT -5
πορνείᾳ (****eia) is the pivotal word here. It is the Greek word meaning "unlawful sexual intercourse." However, the Gospel does not use the word, μοιχεία (moicheia), which is the Greek word for adultery. Thus, scholars believe the particular word usage indicated an intent to separate marriage from concubinage. Or, in other words, distinguishing between actual marriage versus a man and woman cohabitating as if married. In these cases there is no lawful or sacramental bond holding the two together, in which case neither divorce or annulment is necessary.
TL;DR: "sexual immortality" "unlawful" etc actually refers to pre-marital sexual relations. We know the Gospel uses the Greek word for sexual immorality, not the greek word for adultery.
Ooh, I learned something! Awesome. Now I'm curious... if Jesus were referring to concubinage, why would He use γυναῖκά for 'wife'? If they weren't married, they wouldn't be husband and wife, would they? Not sure what you mean. For most of the scripture He was speaking of legitimate marriages, it was only in His brief note "except for unlawful marriages/sexual immorality/concubinage" that He was not. In which γυναῖκά was not used. So it'd make sense for Him to refer to the woman as a wife for the rest of the verse, because whenever γυναῖκά is used he is speaking of lawful marriages. An interesting thing to note is that common-law marriage was not at all rare among the Romans and Greeks of the time. Any reference to concubinage with the use of the word γυναῖκά (wife) that I missed could possibly refer to such usage. The ancients saw marriages as private contracts between families, and so they did not keep legal record of such things; as a result, common-law marriage outside of both the legal and religious systems, i.e. just co-habitating, was quite common. In other words, a couple would refer to themselves as married even though they weren't actually, and thus use of the word "wife" or "husband" in these cases would be correct within context.
In short: I didn't see anywhere where γυναῖκά was used in reference to concubinage. If there was, however, it was (a) likely referring to the practice of common-law marriage, in which the couple calls each other "wife" and "husband" but are not truly, or ( is simply a contextual word used to help better explain exactly whom he was speaking of.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Sept 9, 2016 10:21:43 GMT -5
Light: is she a vegan or something? Cause that's gonna be hard. Also, you don't necessarily have to write a big essay. Just hand her one of the books with a short but sweet note. Ask her to at least read a few chapters, and even if she doesn't agree with it, she'll understand Christianity a bit better. Here's what I hate: the nationality of the news. The world has not become more dangerous , deadly, upsetting, whatever. It has always been this way. The only difference is that in the last 20 years the news media has exploded. Events we'd probably never hear about are unloaded onto us in extreme detail in five minutes. Every bad thing that has happened in a day is now at our finger tips. Before such wide-spread media, you'd hear about some bad news but a manageable amount. Whereas now you hear it all. My point is that we are not living in more dangerous times than people were 50 years ago. We are now, thanks to broadcasting media, simply more aware of danger that has always existed. This stuff goes all the way back to the stock market crash that caused the great depression.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 10:26:22 GMT -5
The media blows things way out of proportion and is quite biased. I hate it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 10:32:33 GMT -5
You know it's nice when you are reading through your scriptures with a question and you flip to the next chapter and there's the answer <3
Sorry I'm being random here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 12:47:53 GMT -5
Most every branch of media is biased. It's one thing to misinterpret or misunderstand; it's another thing entirely to blatantly lie to support a position. Most networks are unbelievably negative toward Christians and will do their best to make us seem like horrible people -- I've seen quotes taken completely out of context and presented as if to mean something entirely different than what was originally meant.
While I don't agree that Christians are necessarily 'persecuted' in America, it's undeniable that we're presented in a bad light. Some of it may be the failure of the modern church (and when I say 'church', I'm speaking generally), but the frustration is so real. I can handle being mocked for what I believe. I can't stand it when people draw conclusions based on misconceptions or assume things about me that I never once affirmed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 13:47:58 GMT -5
I agree. It's annoying and frustrating when people take things out of context and twist it to make it what it's not. Also when people try to use the Bible against you? that' annoys me to no end. Like I know what's in the Bible, you're just trying to shut me down when you don't even understand it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 14:27:00 GMT -5
What's in Leviticus that can be used?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 14:27:05 GMT -5
I agree. It's annoying and frustrating when people take things out of context and twist it to make it what it's not. Also when people try to use the Bible against you? that' annoys me to no end. Like I know what's in the Bible, you're just trying to shut me down when you don't even understand it. When people try to quote Leviticus to show how we're 'hypocritical'... That so much
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 14:33:36 GMT -5
What's in Leviticus that can be used? A lot of people will use the "yeah well the Bible says Christians shouldn't eat shellfish" argument (or others similar), which is found in Leviticus 11:9-12. This, along with most others people try to use as refutations, is a requirement of the OT laws, which Jesus fulfilled and are not applicable to Christians today (not to mention, the civil laws were written exclusively for the Jews; peoples outside of Israel were never required to keep them).
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Sept 9, 2016 16:49:04 GMT -5
What's in Leviticus that can be used? A lot of people will use the "yeah well the Bible says Christians shouldn't eat shellfish" argument (or others similar), which is found in Leviticus 11:9-12. This, along with most others people try to use as refutations, is a requirement of the OT laws, which Jesus fulfilled and are not applicable to Christians today (not to mention, the civil laws were written exclusively for the Jews; peoples outside of Israel were never required to keep them). ^^^^ St. Peter in Acts 15 explains that of all the Jewish laws of cleanliness, only a handful still needed to be kept by Christians. His reason: "[Christ] did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith." (i.e. Christ fulfilled the Old Testament, so the laws of the Torah need not be upheld anymore)
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Sept 9, 2016 16:52:04 GMT -5
On the topic of religious persecution, this is an interesting read: (X)
You can skip down to the part about the five stages of persecution. It seems relevant to the topic at hand.
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Post by Light on Sept 9, 2016 17:46:23 GMT -5
Light : is she a vegan or something? Cause that's gonna be hard. Also, you don't necessarily have to write a big essay. Just hand her one of the books with a short but sweet note. Ask her to at least read a few chapters, and even if she doesn't agree with it, she'll understand Christianity a bit better. Here's what I hate: the nationality of the news. The world has not become more dangerous , deadly, upsetting, whatever. It has always been this way. The only difference is that in the last 20 years the news media has exploded. Events we'd probably never hear about are unloaded onto us in extreme detail in five minutes. Every bad thing that has happened in a day is now at our finger tips. Before such wide-spread media, you'd hear about some bad news but a manageable amount. Whereas now you hear it all. My point is that we are not living in more dangerous times than people were 50 years ago. We are now, thanks to broadcasting media, simply more aware of danger that has always existed. This stuff goes all the way back to the stock market crash that caused the great depression. Nope, she isn't vegan. ^^ She likes meat, but doesn't like to think about where it comes from. I could use a book, and I find myself sliding that direction the longer I procrastinate. Now I just have to get the book. I hope it's not too expensive... True. And it is usually the bad things that get put on the spotlight. Why?
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Post by Splintercat on Sept 9, 2016 18:48:12 GMT -5
Hello, all! Sorry I haven't been on much lately. What's the topic of discussion?
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Post by Dreamers Delight on Sept 9, 2016 21:41:40 GMT -5
Light : is she a vegan or something? Cause that's gonna be hard. Also, you don't necessarily have to write a big essay. Just hand her one of the books with a short but sweet note. Ask her to at least read a few chapters, and even if she doesn't agree with it, she'll understand Christianity a bit better. Here's what I hate: the nationality of the news. The world has not become more dangerous , deadly, upsetting, whatever. It has always been this way. The only difference is that in the last 20 years the news media has exploded. Events we'd probably never hear about are unloaded onto us in extreme detail in five minutes. Every bad thing that has happened in a day is now at our finger tips. Before such wide-spread media, you'd hear about some bad news but a manageable amount. Whereas now you hear it all. My point is that we are not living in more dangerous times than people were 50 years ago. We are now, thanks to broadcasting media, simply more aware of danger that has always existed. This stuff goes all the way back to the stock market crash that caused the great depression. Nope, she isn't vegan. ^^ She likes meat, but doesn't like to think about where it comes from. I could use a book, and I find myself sliding that direction the longer I procrastinate. Now I just have to get the book. I hope it's not too expensive... True. And it is usually the bad things that get put on the spotlight. Why? Because to people now adays it's "not interesting to hear about cute stuff." It's much for interesting to hear what's going wrong with the world, it gives more of an action. And to be honest, it's been going on like this even before the great depression!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 21:50:18 GMT -5
Because to people now adays it's "not interesting to hear about cute stuff." It's much for interesting to hear what's going wrong with the world, it gives more of an action. And to be honest, it's been going on like this even before the great depression! I disagree dreamers, I think there are only a few people who act like that. The media does blow things out of proportion, and depending on the source they can be shoving agendas down people's throats, especially political ones. In my opinion, it's the media's job to deliver the "bad things". That should be expected. It certainly doesn't need to be just bad stuff, but news that is relevant and important to us today. Which just so happens to be bad things a lot of the time.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Sept 9, 2016 22:54:19 GMT -5
@bolderpelt: first things is A++ my dad has a subscription. almost always quality content.
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Post by Fяøšтч Bøв¢αт❅ on Sept 9, 2016 22:59:43 GMT -5
Hello. I need someone to talk to? >.< I'm a Christian but I haven't gone to church in almost a year. Is this normal? Bc I know people that go to church every 2 months (which is what I sort of did before I stopped going altogether oops) but even they seemed shocked when I told them this. O.o Hi. Just seeing this now. You need to go to church. ... Well, I mean, it's up to you... but as it is God’s will for believers, you should go. Hebrews 10:25 says we should “not [be] giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.” We are told to go to church so that we can encourage one another, hear the preaching of the Word, and worship God in a collective setting. Church is where we see the Word applied to others' lives, learn more about the God we serve so that we may serve Him better, and, of course, form friendships with other Christians and fulfill our duties as part of the body of Christ. It's just that I don't really get out much besides going to school, and I'm not exactly the most social person in the world. I know some people from my school that I feel like they don't really like me very much, as I'm always out of place around them. And it doesn't help that my mom thinks it's too far from our house,(it's really not) and she hates driving to "far" places. I just feel so awkward there, especially since I think they judge me for not going that often, because most people that I know that go to this church really enjoys being there.
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Post by Dreamers Delight on Sept 10, 2016 13:08:08 GMT -5
Because to people now adays it's "not interesting to hear about cute stuff." It's much for interesting to hear what's going wrong with the world, it gives more of an action. And to be honest, it's been going on like this even before the great depression! I disagree dreamers, I think there are only a few people who act like that. The media does blow things out of proportion, and depending on the source they can be shoving agendas down people's throats, especially political ones. In my opinion, it's the media's job to deliver the "bad things". That should be expected. It certainly doesn't need to be just bad stuff, but news that is relevant and important to us today. Which just so happens to be bad things a lot of the time. I just realized that I misspelled a couple things. And I totally agree. It's blown out of proportion and it is sad that these things happen. I wish they weren't so biased though. I just remembered that some people were talking about things that they wanted. I want to add to it. Please God, may I have a good husband my dream job making video games and a great family.
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