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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jan 22, 2018 12:06:37 GMT -5
I'm genuinely curious, but what is it about this book that makes it so likable? So far, I've seen this book get a mostly positive receptionโand it's not just on this site, eitherโand I want to know why, since I didn't care much for this book myself.
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nightfrost1211
I'm patiently awaiting the day when yet another anime consumes my entire being
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Post by nightfrost1211 on Jan 22, 2018 21:52:15 GMT -5
It was honestly a very great Super Edition, and a steady way to start the new trend of present-time plots instead of having a cat's history. The book really showed true struggle for Skyclan and you get to see them literally fall apart, and though I'm not fond of Skyclan, it made me appreciate them more. Hawkwing was a cute optimist at times, which kinda reminded me of Graywing, but other than that, he was just 'okay' to me. Nothing personal, just that he wouldn't be a favorite to me. Although I did really enjoy his dynamic with Plumwillow, being her 'mate' and foster father of her kits, because it was a newer type of relationship developed a lot more in this Super Edition than in the actual series (except for Graywing's fostering Thunder and Turtle Tail's kits). I actually kinda ship Hawkwing and Plumwillow because with him and Pebbleshine it was pretty fast and went straight toward them purring and nuzzling each other, where as with Plumwillow he got time to develop his feelings and realized he might have a crush on her after some moons. Idk that was the main thing of the story that intrigued me (other than when Sandynose got jealous of him), the other parts were nice and not super-crazy and I was constantly rolling my eyes at Leafstar's decisions (not a big fan of her). It was generally a very wonderful book and I enjoyed reading it, but just in personal opinion, it wasn't that great. WAY better than most SE though, thats for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 21:11:32 GMT -5
One of the best ones out there. Hawkwing was a character we'd heard of only once before and barely
It felt like a breath of fresh air.
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Post by Alpha on Jan 24, 2018 17:20:21 GMT -5
I liked it because it felt as if there was actual stakes, and it wasn't very easy to know how it would eventually turn out. In a book series like Warriors, which is more fantasy-action than anything, this is vital to have this emotion in the books. However, a lot of books in the series fail at doing this, so when it finally does come, the book can seem very good! There's also some other things propping it up, like the knowledge of Darktail's soon-coming betrayal, a few of the character relationships, etc. It also is technically a pretty good journey book, as things actually happened on the journey and the action and plot wasn't split up by several pages of describing a character's journey in detail(@ Kate Cary).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 17:40:41 GMT -5
I've always felt Hawkwing to be annoying with his opinion about Darktail. One moment he wants to banish him and shortly after he wants to keep him in the clan.
The book felt slow-paced. It also kept bringing back old villains, like Dodge. He still has a grudge because SkyClan forced his cats to share territory. Really? That's childish.
Pebbleshine felt like a plot device to me to give Hawkwing some pain.
I also didn't like how they skipped Duskpaw's relationship with Hawkpaw. It was said that he always joked around and had fun but we never really got to see it. So Duskpaw's death didn't really make me sympathize with Hawkwing.
I just didn't like it. It's one of my least favorite books. If it wasn't for the lack of pacing in the Warriors series, the lack of developed characters, I doubt this book would be so popular. People only like this book because it reminds them of the original series and this only happened because OotS didn't feel well written to me, nor did the other series after TNP. It's not a good book. It's just as low quality as the others.
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Post by Frozen on Jan 24, 2018 19:34:29 GMT -5
I didn't really like it. The book was rather boring. I can remember FQ and SD a lot more than HJ, and I didn't even read SD until a few years ago.
I think Hawkwing is overrated as a character, I don't want him to be leader, I don't get excited when he shows up in AVOS... I just don't get the hype?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 20:37:19 GMT -5
it was good to finaly have a super edition not revolving around first arc charecters like firestar , bluestar , yellowfang , tallstar , etc and it was well written. not really much to complain about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 21:01:46 GMT -5
the biggest disappointment in that book was the fact that Shrewtooth disappeared between after the flood and hawkwing's journey.
idk why but hes honestly one of my favorite characters and i was excited to see him again rip
edit;// actually, the book was just an overall huge disappointment. gonna share an unpopular opinion: i actually really like modern SkyClan. SkyClan's destiny is actually one of my favorite super editions. I was excited to read about SkyClan again but everything just felt off. The pacing was slow, the returning characters felt,,, off, and Hawkwing was an incredibly boring pov character.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 21:18:13 GMT -5
I liked it, but it wasn't anything special. I feel like I would have enjoyed it more, if I wasn't so worried about my book falling apart. I got it for Christmas the year it came out, and I don't know what happened but as I was reading I noticed there was a small space between the spine and the pages. I don't really know how to describe it, but I was so paranoid about my book possibly coming apart that I didn't get to enjoy it very much. To this day I've never touched it. Yeah, I'm weird. I'm just really picky about keeping my books in good condition.
But anyways, it was just okay. I didn't hate it, but it wasn't amazing either. My biggest problem with the book is that I felt so disconnected from everyone. I'm normally all for darker stories, but it's hard to care or be interested in what's happening when you don't even know the characters. I couldn't be bothered to care who anyone was, because they all died or disappeared before I got any chance to know them. I also personally felt like it was rushed in a lot of places. For example, Duskpaw and Hawkwing's relationship is completely skipped over, so it means nothing to me. Pebbleshine and Hawkwing's relationship too. It felt so forced and fake, that I sometimes wonder if she even existed at all. Hawkwing and Pebbleshine don't even feel like Twigpaw and Violetshine's parents, that's how fake their relationship feels to me. It's just hard for me to care about anything that happens in this story, because it's so detached.
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nightfrost1211
I'm patiently awaiting the day when yet another anime consumes my entire being
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Post by nightfrost1211 on Jan 24, 2018 22:00:13 GMT -5
I liked it, but it wasn't anything special. I feel like I would have enjoyed it more, if I wasn't so worried about my book falling apart. I got it for Christmas the year it came out, and I don't know what happened but as I was reading I noticed there was a small space between the spine and the pages. I don't really know how to describe it, but I was so paranoid about my book possibly coming apart that I didn't get to enjoy it very much. To this day I've never touched it. Yeah, I'm weird. I'm just really picky about keeping my books in good condition. But anyways, it was just okay. I didn't hate it, but it wasn't amazing either. My biggest problem with the book is that I felt so disconnected from everyone. I'm normally all for darker stories, but it's hard to care or be interested in what's happening when you don't even know the characters. I couldn't be bothered to care who anyone was, because they all died or disappeared before I got any chance to know them. I also personally felt like it was rushed in a lot of places. For example, Duskpaw and Hawkwing's relationship is completely skipped over, so it means nothing to me. Pebbleshine and Hawkwing's relationship too. It felt so forced and fake, that I sometimes wonder if she even existed at all. Hawkwing and Pebbleshine don't even feel like Twigpaw and Violetshine's parents, that's how fake their relationship feels to me. It's just hard for me to care about anything that happens in this story, because it's so detached. I agree. i hardly ship Hawkwing and Pebbleshine, but it is mostly because they didn't have much going with their relationship. They hated each other, they suddenly like each other, she's expecting kits, then she randomly disappears to give Hawkwing more pain. It just felt like a very rushed trope that they use for a lot of cannon couples, so Pebbleshine was basically only there to give him another cat to grieve over. Everything was super rushed in those places, also for Duskpaw and Hawkwing's relationship. We only see him for one chapter, and even then it's not a lot (just mentioning how he's playful and a bit immature), then he dies. Honestly it confuses me since we are supposed to feel bad for his losses when we barely got anytime to know these cats and how they felt about the certain obstacles Skyclan faced. Some parts in this book were really detached and forced, reminding me why this wasn't a really good book.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 22:18:04 GMT -5
I thought it was really interesting and basically had me hooked to read every word (cuz I struggle with actually reading everything and not skipping around in books in general)
Probably one of my top se
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Post by dashingshadows on Jan 25, 2018 0:17:20 GMT -5
The death On-screen death that actually gave weight to the character's actions
Leafstar grew a lot too, she had to learn every lesson the hard way, but she learned. I actually like her now, she's become a leader.
The weakest part was the writers telling and not showing (Would 1 chapter of establishment be too much to ask?), but that's what I would say the series' greatest weakness is too. Also forgetting Shrewtooth. How do you just forget a character like him?
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Post by ashfurlover on Jan 25, 2018 1:00:53 GMT -5
It was bad because the only good books are the ones with ASHFUR in it
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