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Post by wildclantheclan on Jan 4, 2018 8:14:13 GMT -5
To me Dovewing is an Ok character but she needed to become independant. Even though she becomes mates with Tigerheart(later Tigerstar) I still think that she needs quite a bit of improvement. Now onto a description of why I don't like her...
Dovewing is a bratty character Dovewing's eyes change so frequently DOVEWING GOT POWERS INSTEAD OF HOLLYLEAF! Dovewing sucks without her powers
Even Lionblaze didn't like Dovewing.
Also who else hates all of her ships
Dove X Bumble Dove X Tiger Dove X Lion Dove X Foxleap I mean stop please...
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Post by Moonblazer on Jan 4, 2018 10:32:45 GMT -5
Just kind of over her. I don't care anymore. I don't hate her, but god do I dislike reading about her now. I wasn't keen on her from day one, but she's better than Lionblaze and Jayfeather, that's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 11:56:54 GMT -5
No offense, but did you not read OotS? Lionblaze was gentle with Dovewing. He never once said or thought he didn't like her. He may have been annoyed with her at times, but never once did he think he didn't like her. Lion was the most gentle one with Dove out of the Three.
Ever thought that Dovewing is probably a "brat" because.. hmm, I don't know, barely a kit out of the nursery, forced to accept that she's the One with a special destiny? Do you expect children to mature right when they're born...??
Everyone's eyes change colors. It's annoying but this isn't anything new. This isn't really a fair reason to dislike her. Leaf and Crow have their eyes changed all the time. Especially Crow.
Dovewing doesn't "suck" without her powers. All her life she's been used to using her powers to help her clan. Now that they're gone, she feels useless. She was always able to hunt and now she can't do anything. She simply lost confidence about herself when she lost her powers.
Everyone is shipped with a lot of characters: Ivypool, Sandstorm, Firestar. Especially Jayfeather. I can understand your dislike for Dove x Tiger, but the others besides Bumble x Dove are crackships. You really gonna dislike her because fans like me ship Dove x Fox? Blame that on the fans, not her, lol.
I'm always going to defend Dovewing. She's my favorite and she's not bad like people say she is. The amount of hate she gets is ridiculous, for reasons that aren't even true. Dove x Tiger I understand. That's a lame and unnecessary ship. But being mean to Ivypool? No, Ivy was mean to her, lol. Because she was mean to Bumble? Well, Bumble was an obsessive freak who guilt tripped her just because she didn't love him. Because Dove was so whiny? Well, she's a child who just learned about the prophecy when she left the nursery at six moons. She's poorly developed? Okay, that, I can understand. She is.
But she's not a bad character at heart.
I like Dove for her innocence. I like Dove for being gentle and motherly to cats like Minty and her kits, especially. I like Dove for wanting to have friends and not letting the code stop that. She is very innocent and a gentle cat at heart. She is also very sympathetic and sensitive. To me, she's a cinnamon roll who makes foolish choices, but no cat is perfect. She may be a poorly written character, I will admit, but she is not a bad character at heart.
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Post by whiteflight on Jan 4, 2018 12:29:58 GMT -5
I dislike Dove but I don’t blame her for “taking” holly’s place it wasn’t even her fault it was the Erin’s fault that the couldn’t think of a power for Holly. Her eye color change is annoying but blame the Erin’s for switching it too much. It doesn’t matter what eye color she has for that book I just keep on imagining her with green eyes, so the eye color doesn’t bother me. I feel sad that she’s stuck with something that she’s born with and she can’t do anything about it, on that part she’s just like me we both have something we’re born with and we can’t control what we’re born with so it’s not right to blame her just for complaining about her powers. I just don’t like her because for me she’s boring to read and I hate the Tom drama, I finally celebrated when she went solo but note she’s got pregnant and made me table flip.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 15:17:34 GMT -5
I don't like nor hate Dovewing. I just merely don't like what went on in Tigerheart's Shadow. I liked her development in Dovewing's Silence, and she was okay to me in Omen Of The Stars...but in Tigerheart's Shadow, nada.
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Post by wildclantheclan on Jan 22, 2018 18:39:11 GMT -5
No offense, but did you not read OotS? Lionblaze was gentle with Dovewing. He never once said or thought he didn't like her. He may have been annoyed with her at times, but never once did he think he didn't like her. Lion was the most gentle one with Dove out of the Three. Ever thought that Dovewing is probably a "brat" because.. hmm, I don't know, barely a kit out of the nursery, forced to accept that she's the One with a special destiny? Do you expect children to mature right when they're born...?? Everyone's eyes change colors. It's annoying but this isn't anything new. This isn't really a fair reason to dislike her. Leaf and Crow have their eyes changed all the time. Especially Crow. Dovewing doesn't "suck" without her powers. All her life she's been used to using her powers to help her clan. Now that they're gone, she feels useless. She was always able to hunt and now she can't do anything. She simply lost confidence about herself when she lost her powers. Everyone is shipped with a lot of characters: Ivypool, Sandstorm, Firestar. Especially Jayfeather. I can understand your dislike for Dove x Tiger, but the others besides Bumble x Dove are crackships. You really gonna dislike her because fans like me ship Dove x Fox? Blame that on the fans, not her, lol. I'm always going to defend Dovewing. She's my favorite and she's not bad like people say she is. The amount of hate she gets is ridiculous, for reasons that aren't even true. Dove x Tiger I understand. That's a lame and unnecessary ship. But being mean to Ivypool? No, Ivy was mean to her, lol. Because she was mean to Bumble? Well, Bumble was an obsessive freak who guilt tripped her just because she didn't love him. Because Dove was so whiny? Well, she's a child who just learned about the prophecy when she left the nursery at six moons. She's poorly developed? Okay, that, I can understand. She is. But she's not a bad character at heart. I like Dove for her innocence. I like Dove for being gentle and motherly to cats like Minty and her kits, especially. I like Dove for wanting to have friends and not letting the code stop that. She is very innocent and a gentle cat at heart. She is also very sympathetic and sensitive. To me, she's a cinnamon roll who makes foolish choices, but no cat is perfect. She may be a poorly written character, I will admit, but she is not a bad character at heart. Really? Because I just read through Omen of the Stars and Lionblaze truly states, " She seems like a good apprentice who is willing to learn but sometimes can be Annoying."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 18:49:43 GMT -5
No offense, but did you not read OotS? Lionblaze was gentle with Dovewing. He never once said or thought he didn't like her. He may have been annoyed with her at times, but never once did he think he didn't like her. Lion was the most gentle one with Dove out of the Three. Ever thought that Dovewing is probably a "brat" because.. hmm, I don't know, barely a kit out of the nursery, forced to accept that she's the One with a special destiny? Do you expect children to mature right when they're born...?? Everyone's eyes change colors. It's annoying but this isn't anything new. This isn't really a fair reason to dislike her. Leaf and Crow have their eyes changed all the time. Especially Crow. Dovewing doesn't "suck" without her powers. All her life she's been used to using her powers to help her clan. Now that they're gone, she feels useless. She was always able to hunt and now she can't do anything. She simply lost confidence about herself when she lost her powers. Everyone is shipped with a lot of characters: Ivypool, Sandstorm, Firestar. Especially Jayfeather. I can understand your dislike for Dove x Tiger, but the others besides Bumble x Dove are crackships. You really gonna dislike her because fans like me ship Dove x Fox? Blame that on the fans, not her, lol. I'm always going to defend Dovewing. She's my favorite and she's not bad like people say she is. The amount of hate she gets is ridiculous, for reasons that aren't even true. Dove x Tiger I understand. That's a lame and unnecessary ship. But being mean to Ivypool? No, Ivy was mean to her, lol. Because she was mean to Bumble? Well, Bumble was an obsessive freak who guilt tripped her just because she didn't love him. Because Dove was so whiny? Well, she's a child who just learned about the prophecy when she left the nursery at six moons. She's poorly developed? Okay, that, I can understand. She is. But she's not a bad character at heart. I like Dove for her innocence. I like Dove for being gentle and motherly to cats like Minty and her kits, especially. I like Dove for wanting to have friends and not letting the code stop that. She is very innocent and a gentle cat at heart. She is also very sympathetic and sensitive. To me, she's a cinnamon roll who makes foolish choices, but no cat is perfect. She may be a poorly written character, I will admit, but she is not a bad character at heart. Really? Because I just read through Omen of the Stars and Lionblaze truly states, " She seems like a good apprentice who is willing to learn but sometimes can be Annoying."Can you give me the exact quote and page then? Even if he did say that, most of the time, since you said you just read through OotS, he's gentle and patient with her. Imo people are just hard on her because they don't like her, but that's just how I feel. Ive recently finished OotS and I do not remember seeing that lol.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Jan 22, 2018 19:06:06 GMT -5
I personally can't stand her. Her relationship with Tigerheart was stupid from the start, and we didn't need a whole SE for it. I'm sick of her and I'm sick of Tigerheart. For god sakes just let these two fade into the background for once and for all.
The majority of the fans hate them both, so idk why the Editors and the Erins keep forcing them in our face. It's stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 19:19:03 GMT -5
I personally can't stand her. Her relationship with Tigerheart was stupid from the start, and we didn't need a whole SE for it. I'm sick of her and I'm sick of Tigerheart. For god sakes just let these two fade into the background for once and for all. The majority of the fans hate them both, so idk why the Editors and the Erins keep forcing them in our face. It's stupid. Considering Tigerheart just became leader, I doubt this will be the last time we're seeing them. We have yet to see the reactions once ThunderClan finds out that Dovewing moved to ShadowClan. Though I agree that their SE was unnecessary.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jan 22, 2018 19:25:37 GMT -5
Yeah let Dove and Tiger fade away, I don't care for either of them.
I'm gonna need a Berrynose SE. For scientific purposes, I mean.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jan 22, 2018 19:41:38 GMT -5
Yeah let Dove and Tiger fade away, I don't care for either of them. I'm gonna need a Berrynose SE. For scientific purposes, I mean. *slides the Erins a $20* .......You know what to do.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jan 22, 2018 19:51:06 GMT -5
Yeah let Dove and Tiger fade away, I don't care for either of them. I'm gonna need a Berrynose SE. For scientific purposes, I mean. *slides the Erins a $20* .......You know what to do. *staples another 20 onto that* Erins pls I need it
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jan 22, 2018 20:03:46 GMT -5
One of the reasons you don't like her is because she's constantly changing eye colors? You do realize that's not her fault, right? If you want to be angry with anyone about that, then blame the Erins for being so inconsistent about it. Besides, she's not the first cat to have an inconsistent description, either.
And her getting powers instead of Hollyleaf? Yeah, not her fault either. The only reason Hollyleaf never got any powers is because Vicky couldn't think of a power for her, and Dovewing didn't even want her powers until she learned to accept them later on.
She sucks without her powers? Yeah, it's not like she's had her powers since birth and would thus have trouble adjusting without them. Even Lionblaze and Jayfeather were having problems, but Dovewing clearly took it the hardest to the point where she felt blind and deaf without them. At least Lionblaze could still fight, and Jayfeather doesn't even need his powers to do his duties. Point is, of course she wouldn't be as good as she used to, and even then she slowly begins to adjust without them eventually.
As for her being bratty, this one I can actually understand, especially during her apprentice days. That said, I can't really be angry with her about this, either. Keep in mind that Dovewing learned about the prophecy when she was still a young apprentice, so she pretty much had to grow up early because Lionblaze and Jayfeather expected her to. She wasn't allowed to tell Ivypaw, which caused their relationship to be strained, and the friends that she made on the journey to bring water back to the Clans had all gone their separate ways except for Tigerheart and, of course, Lionblaze. None of this could've been good for her.
And speaking of Lionblaze, I also don't remember him saying that, but even if he did, that doesn't necessarily mean he didn't like her either. I'm pretty sure most mentors have felt annoyed with their apprentices at least once, but this doesn't really mean anything unless the mentor is like Tigerclaw.
As for her ships, I really could care less about who her mate is, just so long as she's happy. And if that cat is Tigerheart, then so be it. It's pretty much why I don't mind that she moved to ShadowClan. Besides, pretty much every cat has been shipped with someone else, so it's not even just Dovewing either.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Jan 23, 2018 10:03:26 GMT -5
What would have been interesting is if she died kitting. Not because I hate her, but killing off a main character in a non-heroic way needs to be done. Plus her arc is over with. She only serves as a breeder for potential main characters.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 18:25:39 GMT -5
She's too stupid for me to like her.
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Post by Chocolate-Fawn on Feb 17, 2018 12:12:57 GMT -5
She was really annoying when her powers were taken away and she wouldn't shut up and didn't take her duties as a full-grown, mature warrior well!! And I hated the part where she threw Bumblestripe out the window like some rag dolls and went after the most annoying male character, Tigerstar 2.0 or Tigerheart. And when Ivypool found out her sister was not only dating a ShadowClan cat, but expecting his kits she was really heartbroken. She just got her sister back after being a spy in literally Cat-Hell and now she's ditching her!!!
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Post by Chocolate-Fawn on Feb 17, 2018 12:14:07 GMT -5
What would have been interesting is if she died kitting. Not because I hate her, but killing off a main character in a non-heroic way needs to be done. Plus her arc is over with. She only serves as a breeder for potential main characters. Yeah we need main characters dying in less heroic ways like Bluestar or Firestar!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 14:18:28 GMT -5
She was really annoying when her powers were taken away and she wouldn't shut up and didn't take her duties as a full-grown, mature warrior well!! And I hated the part where she threw Bumblestripe out the window like some rag dolls and went after the most annoying male character, Tigerstar 2.0 or Tigerheart. And when Ivypool found out her sister was not only dating a ShadowClan cat, but expecting his kits she was really heartbroken. She just got her sister back after being a spy in literally Cat-Hell and now she's ditching her!!! So Dovewing can't be happy then? Because if Ivypool can be happy with Fernsong, why can't she? Besides Ivypool sorta drove Dove away by giving her the cold shoulder and she doesn't really have anything left after the prophecy has been fulfilled. I think you're being too hard on her, lol. If Ivy can be happy then Dove is allowed too.
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Post by Chocolate-Fawn on Feb 18, 2018 1:24:58 GMT -5
Honestly I don't care about Dovewing but in Tigerheart's Shadow the Erins had a chance to polish both Tigerheart and Dovewing's characters.
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Post by dunebites on Aug 13, 2020 10:57:30 GMT -5
It’s not her fault, but she’s a freaking hypocrite. She goes from hating her powers, to freaking out when she loses them. She says “It’s worse than being deaf ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/RCFqazfvhbMAeE5hIhD3.gif) “ no, It’s being normal. She thinks that everything has to be special for her. She creates so much drama, trying to keep the attention on herself, that I can’t stand the whiney brat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 12:00:19 GMT -5
It’s not her fault, but she’s a freaking hypocrite. She goes from hating her powers, to freaking out when she loses them. She says “It’s worse than being deaf ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/6575102/images/RCFqazfvhbMAeE5hIhD3.gif) “ no, It’s being normal. She thinks that everything has to be special for her. She creates so much drama, trying to keep the attention on herself, that I can’t stand the whiney brat. please don't necropost and bring back one of these cringy threads of all these (talking about everyone here in this topic, you're all guilty of this childish behavior. some of u still act like this.) grown adults arguing. if u want to talk about dovewing, make a topic yourself. this is from 2018.
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Post by Emberstar 🔥 on Aug 13, 2020 17:50:24 GMT -5
I don't know what to feel about her tbh
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