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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 20, 2017 21:41:42 GMT -5
Alright, so, some updates. Firstly, I'm going to remove everyone who didn't return to claim their places, as promised.
Secondly, I realize that this is sort of a bad time for activity, what with Christmas and all that, and I fell victim to inactivity as well. Thus, I am going to change the post rule so that everyone has until January 1st to make the required posts. The number and nature of the posts will remain the same, but I think just under two weeks should be plenty of time to get a few posts up per person. If you can't manage even that (unless you have a pretty good excuse and it is not your usual level of activity), well... I have bad news for you lmao.
So, with that said, the following members are removed, and their characters reopened for claiming. Of course, they may rejoin the rp at any point, but they must claim characters like anyone else, and if one of their former characters has been claimed already... tough luck.
Wolfspirit , Matija , dฮฑฮนัy , Salted Squid , @redheartofriverclan , skyfire , nem
This opens up the following characters of each Clan:
ThunderClan - Rainwhisker, Speckletail, Hollykit, Squirrelpaw, Whitepaw, Brambleclaw, Firestar, Brightheart, Sootfur, Thornclaw
RiverClan - Stonepaw, Ripplefur
WindClan - Kitefeather
ShadowClan - Littlecloud, Talonpaw, Cedarheart, Fangpaw, Rowanclaw, Hawkbite, Snowbird
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Post by nem on Dec 20, 2017 21:43:18 GMT -5
yeah you can just remove me sorry
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Post by Maplestone360 on Dec 21, 2017 12:55:45 GMT -5
I just thought of this today but I headcanon that all the cats in StarClan and the Dark Forest have scars on their bodies where/if wounds killed them. For example, Tigerstar has a big scar running from his chin to his tail because of Scourge, right? But I think the scars would be more noticeable and ugly looking in the Dark Forest than in StarClan, where they would be neat and barely noticeable. Kind of random, yeah, but just a thought for roleplay.
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 21, 2017 14:52:45 GMT -5
I know Dark Forest cats have their scars, though I think StarClan cats canonically lose them. Tho I have a headcanon that they can basically choose (mostly subconsciously) whether or not they keep their scars. Like if they feel that one is important and defines them somehow it'll stay in StarClan, but the rest fade. Idk lol.
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 23, 2017 17:34:24 GMT -5
So, taking a tally here: who thinks BloodClan should be playable as a "fifth Clan" more or less, and would be interested in doing so, and who thinks they should remain more or less NPC?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 17:47:20 GMT -5
I think it's be cool to play as them. o:
Also for StarClan I read they look as they appeared when happiest in life.
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 23, 2017 18:06:13 GMT -5
I added a poll regarding BloodClan.
Also, I'm going to set up a Dark Forest page, so you're all welcome to claim known Dark Forest cats (Tigerstar, Mapleshade, Thistleclaw, Snowtuft, and so on). Once some have been claimed, some of the Dark Forest cats might have a discussion as to who to recruit into training; however, individual cats are welcome to single out apprentices of their own without consulting the group (Tigerstar and some of the other "leaders" might not be so happy about that, though...). Dark Forest apprentices will mostly be apprentices/young warriors, especially those who are considered to be more aggressive or ambitious. If you definitely don't, or definitely do, want one of your cats who fits this criteria to be a recruited to the Dark Forest, let me know. Otherwise, your cat may or may not be chosen (of course, they can decline training if it's offered... though there may always be consequences for that). As for the Dark Forest cats themselves, you can definitely take non-canon Dark Forest cats, but like rogues/loners, they will for the most part be randomly generated, though you can come up with whatever backstory for them that you want (if it's something dramatic, though, just run it by me first).
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 24, 2017 18:08:42 GMT -5
(So they couldn't find my stocking this year so I'm using one of my stepdad's bc for some reason he had 3 and I don't think my family understands why my stocking saying "daddy" is so funny)
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 26, 2017 18:25:20 GMT -5
The Place of No Stars is complete, so you can go ahead and claim some characters there if you like. Though you are welcome to request a custom DF cat (especially if it's a she-cat, because they are FAR outnumbered in the Dark Forest), I would prefer if you would try to claim at least most of the existing ones beforehand. Those who don't have a lot of info available I sort of randomly assigned ages of death, and you're welcome to decide for the ones you claim what their former Clan and cause of death was, if there is no canon, as I did for Snowtuft and Maggottail. Hehehe I actually have a really cool backstory in mind for Maggottail.
Besides that news, I'm gonna try to get a roleplay post up on each Clan, then I'll work on a BloodClan page, since it seems like BloodClan being rped is the most likely outcome. However, you should definitely prioritize activity in the main Clans over BloodClan. BloodClan, like the other Clans, will be claim-a-cat; however, it will be small, and far easier for custom characters to join in. Like the main Clans, custom characters will be partially random.
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 27, 2017 16:30:49 GMT -5
So, a few things about plots. One, I realized that because Firestar's Quest takes place between the end of the first series and now, the Power of Three prophecy is actually still in play. Though we could just overwrite it and be like "actually that thing didn't happen and that prophecy isn't a thing," I think reimagining it to be less... ugh would be better. Whether we would have the same "Three" born under difference circumstances, or a different Three, we would have to discuss; same with their powers, and the outcome/meaning of the prophecy. I think we should also definitely scrap that thing that directly involves Firestar personally in this prophecy because let's be honest, nobody liked that. Personally, I think we should find a different Three altogether, and not directly give them superpowers like in the main series, because that was kind of silly (Jayfeather's wasn't too bad, since the dreams kind of fit with the StarClan theme, but super strength and super senses are pushing it tbh). Also, I find it unlikely that LeafxCrow would be a thing in this timeline, meaning that Hollyleaf, Jayfeather, and Lionblaze either won't be born at all, or would be born under very different circumstances and would only kind of be the same cats. But, that can be discussed more a bit later, since that prophecy won't be relevant again for a while; we have the BloodClan plot to take care of, plus whatever cats do end up being the Three still won't even be born for quite a while.
That aside, I have a couple ideas for "smaller" Clan-related plots separate from the BloodClan plot.
The first plot could go for either ThunderClan or WindClan, depending on how it was done. It would basically be a miniature version of the territories being destroyed, canon plot of this time period, but less devastating in the long run and would only make things more difficult for one Clan temporarily. For ThunderClan, this would be the destruction and expansion of the Tallpines. Essentially, twolegs would come and harvest all/most of the trees in Tallpines, and would also destroy some of the more wild forest to replant as part of Tallpines as well. This means that a very large portion of ThunderClan's territory would be temporarily useless, as it would be swarming with monsters and twolegs for a long while, and it would be a while after that before the replanted pines grew up enough that much prey would return. The WindClan version of the idea is similar, except it would be the expansion of farmland out onto the moor. Either the building of a new pasture for farm animals (horses, cattle, sheep, or something of that sort), or the plowing and planting of a new crop field/fields (and later, the harvesting). Like with ThunderClan's forest, neither would permanently remove Clan territory, only take it out of commission for a short while/certain times of the year, and force the Clans to adapt to dealing with the new ways of that territory. I personally find the WindClan idea slightly more interesting, but the ThunderClan one could be good too.
For RiverClan, I'm thinking perhaps there should be some kind of subtle power struggle/split within the Clan. I feel as though in the books, the way that Leopardstar gave in so easily to Tigerstar was somewhat... glossed over, as were some of the events which took place during that situation (such as Stonefur's murder). I think there really should be some cats within RiverClan who distrust in Leopardstar's leadership, possibly to the degree that they desire to see her replaced as soon as possible. I can certainly see Hawkfrost being a part of that movement, perhaps egging other cats somewhat from the background. There would of course be the cats who support Leopardstar and defend her decisions and those who stand firmly against her, as well as those in the middle and those on the extreme ends of both groups. Perhaps this will lead to a power struggle within the Clan, or perhaps it will only be a lot of big talk but nothing to come of it.
Finally, I have two ideas involving other kinds of animals, but really only one of them should be used at a time. The first is fairly straightforward: an unfamiliar animal moves into the territory of a Clan. I'm currently thinking either bear or wild boars. Both animals are too large and strong for cats to be able to just chase them off like they can with badgers, foxes, or even most dogs; there's really not much they could do to get rid of them. Neither animal would be especially aggressive towards the cats, as long as the cats didn't get too close or start a fight; however, both would certainly create some competition for resources, mainly herbs. Boars tear up the ground in the areas where they live, which would probably cause issues with certain plants growing, as well as disrupt some of their prey. Bears are omnivorous, so they would be eating some of the Clans' prey as well as many herbs that they use. Plus, there would be the passive danger that apprentices or wayward kits might surprise or get to close to the animal and get hurt.
The second idea is a bit more of a stretch, and far more... involved. This one involves an animal that is normally a predator to the cats, similar to the one above. However, for this, practically any sort of non-prey animal will do: dog, fox, badger, or even something like a raccoon or bobcat. Basically, the Clan (or a patrol from the Clan) happens upon a weak, abandoned (or orphaned) "kit" of this kind of animal, too young to be any sort of danger. One or more of the warriors cites that the warrior code is against neglecting a kit in pain or danger, regardless of their origin, and argues that even non-cat kits should count. Thus, the Clan takes in a cares for this "kit".... and we'd have to see what happened from there. Alternatively, the Clan does not take the kit in, but one or a couple of cats from the Clan instead care for it in secret. Perhaps as it grows up it turns on them... or maybe it will turn out more like Midnight, able to communicate and reason with them despite their differences in species?
That's about all I have for plots at the moment, but if anyone has any suggestions, or variations of the ones I suggested, please let me know!
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 27, 2017 17:30:49 GMT -5
Musings on each of my characters:
- I want Shrewpaw to live and actually have a decent lifespan within ThunderClan (even if he never quite makes it to the elders' den lol). I'm thinking maybe he could end up getting with either Squirrelpaw or Leafpaw at some point? Because canonically, Squirrelpaw and Shrewpaw are, like, best friends. But also the interaction with Shrewpaw and Leafpaw in the rp thus far has been pretty good lol. I think I'm currently liking LeafxShrew a bit better than SquirrelxShrew but that could change I guess. Either seems plausible, since Leafpaw has no reason to get with Crowpaw in this timeline, and since Squirrelpaw doesn't go on the quest with Brambleclaw, it's just as likely as not that they'll ever end up getting together. But it's up to the roleplayers of those characters, it's just a thought XD
- I kind of want Longtail to eventually be killed fighting for ThunderClan against BloodClan. Sort of one last stand as a warrior, since really I feel like Longtail was always meant to die a warrior's death rather than an elder's. But we'll see lol.
- Tossing around the idea of having Larchkit wanting to become a medicine cat apprentice. But I'm not sure. I also like her as a warrior so idk one way or another.
- Could definitely see Turtlepaw becoming involved in BloodClan and/or the Dark Forest, though I'm not sure if she'd fully defect. I'd have to flesh out the character more and see where the roleplay takes her. Reedheart, on the other hand, would remain profoundly loyal to RiverClan, through and through.
- Leafkit is an intense drypaw, with a severe fear of water and no desire to swim. Maybe he'll grow out of it, but I kind of like the idea of him gravitating more towards one of the other Clans, probably ThunderClan or WindClan, and possibly joining that Clan instead as he gets older.
- Tallpoppy, either at this point or very soon, is canonically expecting kits, as she has a young litter when ShadowClan's camp is destroyed in canon. Not sure who the father should be, but I'm up for a cross-Clan pairing. Or, it could be a cat in ShadowClan. I don't care that much lol. The litter consists of Marshkit, Applekit, and Toadkit (the latter two later becoming Applefur and Toadfoot). I have absolutely no idea what to do with the rest of my ShadowClan cats, though I can easily see Darkpaw training with the Dark Forest (though I doubt he would get involved with BloodClan at all).
- I'm not sure if Tallstar will revoke Mudclaw's place as deputy like in the books, though if he does I'm not sure he'll make Onewhisker deputy/leader instead (I feel like there had been far more... qualified cats who also might not have become such jerks later on). But, the idea of letting Mudclaw take over also seems like a good opportunity for drama.... Not sure what to do with the rest of my WindClan cats either.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 18:41:59 GMT -5
Just a note, I'm considering dropping most of my WindClan cats, but I'd like to keep Crowpaw as he's one of the few cats I recall the personality for fairly well lol. XD Let me look through my cats and post starters though the I'll post if I'm dropping any.
Now I have to read all your ideas.
Can I request we somehow lessen the dark foreest's power in this rp? Idk I didn't like that cats could "die again/fade" in darkforest/StarClan and that they could materialize into the real world/kill cats. Like... dream training, ok. The rest was a bit much and only REALLY introduced during/after "The New Prophecy" so... Mainly the materializing into the real world. I think they should just poison cats minds against each other into fighting, not like... actually... join the fight. c':
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 27, 2017 18:51:51 GMT -5
Yeah I'm all for that idea. The Power of Three/Fourth Apprentice really got out of hand with the supernatural, in my opinion. I mean, I don't think it's unlikely that DF cats could influence the world in small ways, kind of like StarClan can do, ya know? Things like giving bad luck or even affecting it in tiny physical ways (like how StarClan can cover the moon). But actually materializing is way too much, yeah.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 19:00:12 GMT -5
Yay someone who agrees with me.  I also thought it a bit too dark. What about the fading thing though? Will we be ignoring that too? |
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 27, 2017 19:27:33 GMT -5
Nah, I didn't think it was too dark or anything, just incredibly stupid and over the top. As for fading... idk, I never had an issue with the concept of fading, just the inconsistent canon about it XD so idk, I assume that cats COULD be killed a second time, but it's probably very difficult and doesn't happen a lot. And maybe only outside their designated afterlife? So like if a StarClan cat wandered into the Dark Forest they could be killed. Idk. Just musing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 19:41:37 GMT -5
I thought both.
I have an issue with fading because it doesn't make sense? It makes things almost seem pointless/futile. Pkus you get sad over a character dying in life then bam, oh, they can die again. It's a bit redunat and kinda removes some of the emotion. I'm not sure hw
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 19:45:56 GMT -5
I thought both.
I have an issue with fading because it doesn't make sense. It makes things almost seem pointless/futile. Plus you get sad over a character dying in life then bam, oh, they can die again. It's a bit redundant and kinda removes some of the emotion. I'm not sure how to better explain it, but it's one thing I can say I dislike about warriors lore. XD
Moving to the 'power of three' prophecy though I think it should still exist, but no adding a forth cat, and with changes, or even a full new plot as to why tehy're needed if we want so it's not just a copy of the books. I also like the idea of the clan meeting the tribe without having to move.
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 27, 2017 20:04:23 GMT -5
Yeah I was thinking we could throw in a prophecy or something about that later. Same with SkyClan.
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 28, 2017 11:19:59 GMT -5
So while I know that Christmas/New Years is a busy time and a lot of you aren't on as much as usual.... I can see that a lot of you ARE in fact on the forums, and yet not a single person has satisfied the rp post requirements except for SilverHailstorm (and Maplestone, but only in ThunderClan and RiverClan), and it's been a while (Milk Tea, you get a pass because you did provide warning that you wouldn't be on for a bit). Essentially, despite being on, no one is active either in the roleplay threads or, it seems, paying much attention to this page. I hate to get stern or anything but seriously, it's been almost two weeks since this has been made, and I know most of you have been on and roleplaying in that time, and yet besides mine there has been a grand total of six roleplay posts, by only two people, and only in ThunderClan and RiverClan. If you don't want to be a part of this roleplay anymore, that is fine, but TELL me so that I can find other people who do instead of just waiting for you forever. So excuse me for starting to get... a little bit irked that all of my effort is, once again, as always it seems, going to waste. If no one intends to actually continue this roleplay, then I'm not gonna bother trying to push it anymore. I will officially close it and that will be that- I'm not trying to revive it again, ever, period. Four times is enough.
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Post by Maplestone360 on Dec 28, 2017 15:54:01 GMT -5
Hey, I am actually paying attention. And, I have made posts in all of the Clans; WindClan and ShadowClan too. I posted for Finchtail and Runningnose. And, since Christmas is over and I now have over a week left of winter break, I have plenty of time for roleplay and I plan to be active. I don't want this rp to die. It's what got me to come onto this forum in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 16:05:13 GMT -5
I'd role-play if someone replied. I think I have something to reply to at RiverClan, but I did post starters for ThunderClan and RiverClan I believe, some not replied to. I did meet the requirements for ThunderClan and RiverClan, so I'm not sure why I'm not listed. I have to check if I posted on ShadowClan, I know I asked if we were rping the patrol and nothing was decided so I'm waiting on that. I have not posted on WindClan.
If I am more active in other rps, please know it is a bit difficult when I first join rps to get involved. My other rps have more time invested into them so I just feel more at ease there. cx
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Post by Maplestone360 on Dec 28, 2017 16:08:59 GMT -5
So, about your ideas, they all sound great! I agree that the Dark Forest should be a bit less powerful, and only be able to stay where they are in the afterlife. After all, if they're being punished in the Dark Forest for the mistakes they made in life, would it really be fair for them to be able to leave their punishment whenever they like? No. But, just like StarClan cats, they can still walk in the dreams of the living.
Also, the idea of LeafXShrew sounds... weirdly interesting to me. cx Like, we could see if it actually went anywhere, with kits or with Leaf or Shrew deciding they should stop in order to follow the Warrior Code. It would cause a lot of drama, that's for sure. XD
Your ideas for individual Clan plots sound great too. Maybe if we decide to do them, then people will be more active. Because, if they're interested, and they think the roleplay is actually going somewhere, they're more likely to try to help it go somewhere. You know?
And, I could claim a tom that could possibly have kits with Tallpoppy, to make that canon. I could look around for any toms who seem the right age and could work, but do you have any in mind? Or do you just want to say that Tallpoppy is expecting without doing any roleplaying about the father?
The Power of Three prophecy would be an interesting thing to do, since it's technically still canon. We might be able to make it work.
And, I'll go and claim one or two Dark Forest cats right now, so that since roleplaying can go on there.
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 28, 2017 16:22:32 GMT -5
Yeah Maplestone I did mention you were good for requirements in ThunderClan and RiverClan. And Raincloud sorry if I missed your posts, my mistake there.
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Post by Aphelyon on Dec 31, 2017 17:41:44 GMT -5
Hey sorry I haven't been on much the past few days, guys. Things have been crazy and weird and... crazy. There's a lot going on in my life right now that interferes with my ability (and will) to get on here so... sorry about that. Hopefully that'll die down but I somehow doubt it will for... a little while yet. In the immediate future, I am taking a very sudden/almost surprise trip out of state for a week, from Tuesday to the following Tuesday, so I will probably not be on all that much, though I will try to be on enough to, at the very least, accept new members and that sort of thing. I'll try to get in a few roleplay posts if I'm needed but I can't make any promises. After that, I will hopefully be moving around the beginning of February (where... I'm not exactly sure yet lmao) so that'll be weird. And we'll see where it goes from there.
Now that I have some time, though, I'm gonna go ahead and add new claims in. If I have any roleplay to respond to, I'll do that as well.
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Post by Aphelyon on Jan 23, 2018 10:31:34 GMT -5
Hey sorry I've been absent these past couple of weeks, life's been chaotic and it's taken like all of my mental fortitude not to have an actual mental breakdown lmao. If there's anything I need to tend to on here, let me know. I don't think I have anyone to respond to but I could be wrong.
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I also thought it a bit too dark. What about the fading thing though? Will we be ignoring that too?
