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Post by ͐T͐͐ᴡ͐͐ɪ͐͐ɪ͐ᴀ͐ on Nov 23, 2017 18:20:56 GMT -5
Can someone tell me how bad this is, and what I could do to improve? As you can tell, I'm pretty bad at this lineless technique thing and can't do fur or cat anatomy to save my life.
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Post by Quiet 🅱ee on Nov 23, 2017 18:50:51 GMT -5
It's not bad, this looks really good! I really like the coloring!
What kind of critique are you looking for? I'm not a master at anatomy but I can do a redline if you'd like?
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Post by ͐T͐͐ᴡ͐͐ɪ͐͐ɪ͐ᴀ͐ on Nov 23, 2017 19:16:10 GMT -5
It's not bad, this looks really good! I really like the coloring! What kind of critique are you looking for? I'm not a master at anatomy but I can do a redline if you'd like? Thanks I know my style is pretty obviously more on the cartoon side, but I feel like I might be lacking in consistency, proportions, or making the poses natural, things like that.
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Post by Quiet 🅱ee on Nov 23, 2017 19:22:20 GMT -5
Hollyleaf(Dovewing?)'s muzzle doesn't look like a cat's; it's too wide and not rounded enough. Their bodies are too thin, but you can pass that off as a stylization. Finally, the ears look a little too big. Most breeds of cats have pretty small ears.
I'd say try not to worry too much about consistency. I feel like none of my drawings look the same but my friend was able to recognize my style when she found it on another site, so I feel like it's more of a personal mentality. Looking at your DA, it all looks pretty consistent and identifiable to me!
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Post by ͐T͐͐ᴡ͐͐ɪ͐͐ɪ͐ᴀ͐ on Nov 23, 2017 19:28:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the critique. I'll be sure to keep it in mind.
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Post by Paws on Nov 23, 2017 19:44:16 GMT -5
I think it looks amazing, but if it's critique you want, than I would suggest making Jay's eyes a bit cloudier to show that he's blind. Keep up the awesome work!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 0:47:02 GMT -5
the good and bad hope this is a good crit and not disregarding stylistic choices. this is really good lineless overall and yea i dont think i really expressed enough what a great job u did. real talk i understand having the few inconsistencies you did have with lineless because there is less ability to perfect and patch up ur forms due to the absence of lines so this is pretty perfect especially if this is one of ur first attempts at lineless i like it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 12:12:10 GMT -5
it's not a bad drawing, it's got a really nice vibe to it and your style is cute! I would try to keep the colour scheme a bit tighter - it looks like you've shaded with reds on Lionblaze, which is good bc of the fire in the background, but blues on Jayfeather. If you picked a colour to shade with and stuck with it for each character, the piece overall would feel more unified. I don't know anything about cat anatomy so i can't help you there, though I would suggest making the noses more visible. # Also, in a piece with a very strong light source, like this one, at the very end I would put a layer over the whole thing of one colour or a gradient. What I mean is this; here's your original piece ![](https://img00.deviantart.net/c1a6/i/2017/327/d/f/_wc__the_three_by_fallowstorm-dbun8ac.png) and here's what it would look like if you put a faint red wash over the top of it ![](http://i64.tinypic.com/353bojl.png) ^ i don't know which program you use, but if it's Sai, try Lumi and Shade option. It makes the white areas pop a bit more, and shows up some of the nice detail you put into the fur + fire. It makes it a bit more dramatic, and makes the blues and greens of the eyes really pop out. hope that's helpful!
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Post by mintedstar/fur on Nov 24, 2017 12:33:02 GMT -5
I think a few other users have already given you some good tips, so I'll just pop in to say I love the style of that drawing!
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Post by ͐T͐͐ᴡ͐͐ɪ͐͐ɪ͐ᴀ͐ on Nov 24, 2017 17:07:38 GMT -5
I think it looks amazing, but if it's critique you want, than I would suggest making Jay's eyes a bit cloudier to show that he's blind. Keep up the awesome work! Thanks for the advice the good and bad hope this is a good crit and not disregarding stylistic choices. this is really good lineless overall and yea i dont think i really expressed enough what a great job u did. real talk i understand having the few inconsistencies you did have with lineless because there is less ability to perfect and patch up ur forms due to the absence of lines so this is pretty perfect especially if this is one of ur first attempts at lineless i like it Thanks for the critique, I'll keep that in mind. Ye, some of it is stylistic choice but even if it's stylized, it need to have some anatomy in it. Thanks for pointing it out. it's not a bad drawing, it's got a really nice vibe to it and your style is cute! I would try to keep the colour scheme a bit tighter - it looks like you've shaded with reds on Lionblaze, which is good bc of the fire in the background, but blues on Jayfeather. If you picked a colour to shade with and stuck with it for each character, the piece overall would feel more unified. I don't know anything about cat anatomy so i can't help you there, though I would suggest making the noses more visible. # Also, in a piece with a very strong light source, like this one, at the very end I would put a layer over the whole thing of one colour or a gradient. What I mean is this; here's your original piece ![](https://img00.deviantart.net/c1a6/i/2017/327/d/f/_wc__the_three_by_fallowstorm-dbun8ac.png) and here's what it would look like if you put a faint red wash over the top of it ![](http://i64.tinypic.com/353bojl.png) ^ i don't know which program you use, but if it's Sai, try Lumi and Shade option. It makes the white areas pop a bit more, and shows up some of the nice detail you put into the fur + fire. It makes it a bit more dramatic, and makes the blues and greens of the eyes really pop out. hope that's helpful! Thanks for the advice! I think the blue shading on Jayfeather and Dovewing and the red on Lionblaze may have to do with my using of shade layers, because the original shading was purple. Now that I think of it, I probably should have shaded with red, because of the fire background. Yes, I use Sai. I added a luminosity layer over the bottom, but I've never thought of using Lumi+Shade. I'll try that next time! I think a few other users have already given you some good tips, so I'll just pop in to say I love the style of that drawing! Thanks
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Post by Grim on Nov 24, 2017 19:13:42 GMT -5
I actually think this is pretty awesome, especially if it really is one of your first attempts at lineless drawing. I'm not great at critiques in the first place, but this drawing makes it hard for me to comment on much of anything to improve on - outside of the anatomy that was already pointed out.
Great job, and I really hope you keep it up! You're already really close to amazing, and I'd love to see you get there!
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Post by tiger beetle on Nov 25, 2017 0:08:04 GMT -5
it really isn't bad! -I know this is a style thing but I kind of have to say I find the virtually nonexistent noses and the tiny little straight-line mouths a little weird
-Dovewing's muzzle has much more definition than the other two--of course it's much harder to make the muzzle defined on them because they're looking forward (or nearly forward), but I would suggest making it clearer that their muzzles stick out in front of their faces a bit more
-this is probably also an intentional choice but their bodies have...very little to them? I feel like they should have more noticeable shoulders and probably thicker bodies and in the cases of Lionblaze and Dovewing you should be able to see more definition between the shoulder and the body
-something about the, uh, open part??? of Dovewing's ear looks off to me, but I'm not sure what it is; the way her left ear curves also looks a little weird, but I think it works with the style you're going for
-back to the muzzles, it seems like with Lion/Jay's eyes, the inner corners come much closer to the muzzle than Dovewing's? I don't know exactly how to put it
-the way the back of Dovewing's shoulder, like, has a spike and fades away looks strange to me but it's probably intentional (I can see that there's actually a very pale continuation) so I don't know
-something about the shading looks different on Lionblaze as opposed to the other two--it almost looks like you used kind of a red-purple-brown on Lionblaze, a blue-purple on Jayfeather, and a green on Dovewing? which makes sense thematically but in this case makes Lionblaze kind of wash into the background I guess? I know from experience how hard it is to make all three cats stand out against the same background but I feel like using a more consistent shading--even if it's just "all warm" or "all cool"--would probably even that out a little more
I like it though!!!
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