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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 2:22:38 GMT -5
let's be honest, all just want to be cute japanese girls.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 5:56:16 GMT -5
they don't exist
you can't take one person being offensive and turn it into a thing that "people on tumblr" are doing
it's not real
stop trying to pretend it's real and an actual issue
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 6:42:21 GMT -5
also it's??? kind of impossible??? in theory??? in a weird way when you think about it transracial is really racist
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 8:01:14 GMT -5
Here's my issue with this theory:
If you actually delve into the field of genetics at all, you learn very quickly that the concept of "race" doesn't exist at that level. It's a concept made up by bigots who believe in superiority within the species. But we're ALL the "human race", and anyone's skin/hair/eye/whatever colour is just a biological adaptation to their environment
So in that sense, why would anyone feel the need to change "races"? It should prob be called "transcultural", because what I imagine is that most people that ascribe to it (giving an example here) maybe "feel black" because they subscribe to values in black culture/society? Or they want to fit in more easily with that group of people to get to try those things, and that's really the only drive behind changing their skin colour.
I dunno, don't mean to get all technical on you all but that's how I see it. I can definitely understand why it's so controversial and personally I don't agree with it, unless it's maybe someone like Halsey for example who is a "passable white" even though she's technically a WOC. Like maaaayyyybe in that case, people should be understanding and let it slide, but that's where I'd draw the line personally
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Post by Cuppa Tea on Aug 26, 2017 10:59:34 GMT -5
Here's my issue with this theory: If you actually delve into the field of genetics at all, you learn very quickly that the concept of "race" doesn't exist at that level. It's a concept made up by bigots who believe in superiority within the species. But we're ALL the "human race", and anyone's skin/hair/eye/whatever colour is just a biological adaptation to their environment So in that sense, why would anyone feel the need to change "races"? It should prob be called "transcultural", because what I imagine is that most people that ascribe to it (giving an example here) maybe "feel black" because they subscribe to values in black culture/society? Or they want to fit in more easily with that group of people to get to try those things, and that's really the only drive behind changing their skin colour. I dunno, don't mean to get all technical on you all but that's how I see it. I can definitely understand why it's so controversial and personally I don't agree with it, unless it's maybe someone like Halsey for example who is a "passable white" even though she's technically a WOC. Like maaaayyyybe in that case, people should be understanding and let it slide, but that's where I'd draw the line personally bad take. idk how you could talk about biology and then turn around and say race isn't real. in fact i think you're confusing race with species. this goes way deeper than an assortment of eye colors. transracial as a whole is just a dumb meme, but there are plenty of rootless people out there with no culture to take part in or anyone to share it with. i have never heard of someone trying to change their race because of it though. Rachel Dolezal was just an extreme case. i mean the woman grew up as the only white child around several other black kids that her biological parents adopted themselves. i can only imagine the ostracism she felt during her childhood that led her to make that decision.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 11:13:01 GMT -5
Except imo race literally doesnt exist, race is literally just genetic traits certain people do or dont have in certain parts of the world. We shouldnt be classifying ourselves like we classify dog breeds.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 11:19:06 GMT -5
Cuppa TeaI never said it wasn't REAL. I just said that it doesn't exist in the same sense at a genetic level. People who talk about race are usually coming at it from a sociological or cultural perspective, not a biological one. I'd love to say I'm making this up but I'm just going to leave this here m.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/race-is-not-biological_us_56b8db83e4b04f9b57da89ed
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Post by Cuppa Tea on Aug 26, 2017 11:24:48 GMT -5
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Post by Cuppa Tea on Aug 26, 2017 11:25:52 GMT -5
Except imo race literally doesnt exist, race is literally just genetic traits certain people do or dont have in certain parts of the world. We shouldnt be classifying ourselves like we classify dog breeds. so what ur saying is,,,,,race does exist 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 11:27:43 GMT -5
It was just an example source, I've read it in many scientific journals before as well and have taken courses on genetics in the past, and they all taught that same concept. That one is just succinct in getting the idea across and easily accessible.
I'm not going to debate any further because I believe you missed the point I was trying to make in the first place, and I don't want this thread to go up in flames
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Post by Cuppa Tea on Aug 26, 2017 11:32:34 GMT -5
It was just an example source, I've read it in many scientific journals before as well and have taken courses on genetics in the past, and they all taught that same concept. That one is just succinct in getting the idea across and easily accessible. I'm not going to debate any further because I believe you missed the point I was trying to make in the first place, and I don't want this thread to go up in flames alright. i do see your point about the cultural factors but i was admittedly going off topic
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 11:33:23 GMT -5
Except imo race literally doesnt exist, race is literally just genetic traits certain people do or dont have in certain parts of the world. We shouldnt be classifying ourselves like we classify dog breeds. so what ur saying is,,,,,race does exist 🤔 But no it doesn't, and nothing I said could have made you infer that, so now youre just trying to argue and push peoples buttons to start crap so I'm just gonna block you and leave it at that since you dont seem to actually want to debate and learn from this. Bye.
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Post by argyle lechuga on Aug 26, 2017 12:05:13 GMT -5
transracial is an extremely innapropriate concept. a white person is never going to understand the struggles of someone from a different race. not to say that they don't have any struggles at all, just different. co-opting someone else's entire culture just because you don't like your own doesn't mean u can now associate with the individual challenges of that culture. and don't try to compare this transgender bc gender is something that is a part of our brain and our body and genetics. regardless of how you feel about the reality of that, it is in no one the same as as relating to something that, for the most part only exists conceptually.
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Post by Numquam on Aug 26, 2017 18:25:03 GMT -5
Race is a social construct and even your basic anthropology class can tell you that.
Anyway most people that claim to be trans-racial are probably just trolls
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 18:35:10 GMT -5
Race is a social construct and even your basic anthropology class can tell you that. Anyway most people that claim to be trans-racial are probably just trolls additionally, the criteria for what constitutes race varies across countries and cultures, and these concepts also tend to change over time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 19:10:06 GMT -5
yes, transracial isn't a thing, i was just trying to make a joke about the very small minority of people who are crazy, and are giving transgender people a bad name, even though it's likely that most, if not all of them are trolls.
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Post by mickle on Aug 26, 2017 19:19:23 GMT -5
funny we've already had this thread before
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 20:43:27 GMT -5
yes, transracial isn't a thing, i was just trying to make a joke about the very small minority of people who are crazy, and are giving transgender people a bad name, even though it's likely that most, if not all of them are trolls. you normally post topics that are just conversation starters so I assumed that it was another one of those
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Post by vakarian on Aug 26, 2017 20:48:10 GMT -5
transracial people are usually trolls are people like these idiots lmao
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Post by Alpha on Aug 26, 2017 21:14:31 GMT -5
I understand if someone was ashamed of their race or something and prefer that they weren't it, but transracial is kinda ridiculous.
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Post by mango on Aug 27, 2017 1:03:34 GMT -5
I want to be a cute Japanese girl
but yeah I agree, it should be transcultural or something. idk race is such a weird thing
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 1:12:50 GMT -5
why be pretend to be a cute japanese girl when u could just get a cute japanese gf
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Post by mango on Aug 27, 2017 1:21:54 GMT -5
but you're not her
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 2:13:43 GMT -5
yes, transracial isn't a thing, i was just trying to make a joke about the very small minority of people who are crazy, and are giving transgender people a bad name, even though it's likely that most, if not all of them are trolls. you normally post topics that are just conversation starters so I assumed that it was another one of those i understand !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 2:15:25 GMT -5
funny we've already had this thread before i run out of ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 7:12:24 GMT -5
Tbh if someone claims to be transracial they're probably just some transphobic 4channer trying to make a bad name for trans people like m'self
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