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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 21:00:42 GMT -5
☁︎ out of character ☁︎ *this is coming from a former fan and also, this is most likely a vocal minority, even though, jesus, it doesn't feel like it. also, keep in mind, this is just my petty, biased opinion
firstly, they have to make it about hamilton, even though it's completely unrelated to hamilton, for example if you look into the comments of dear evan hansen, it will have multiple comments of "dear evan hansen, what to say to you!!!1111 :3" as well as the jokes which were really funny at the beginning, but they copy paste it to basically every hamilton thing ever like "angelica's having roasted ham for dinner tonight lolololool :3" a.so it's so annoying how they're corrupting other musical fandoms. also, don't get me started on the musical warrior cats maps. finally, the way they harass the artists scribs just for not liking hamilton anymore.
yeah, this is stupid, but it's so annoying.
☁︎ roleplay ☁︎
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 1, 2017 21:08:31 GMT -5
As a Hamilton fan, I'm honestly not really surprised, even if I do find the jokes to be funny among other things involving the fandom, like parodies or MAPs (like the Ashfur/You'll Be Back one). Every fandom has their obnoxious fans, so I can see why you'd be annoyed. The harassment is especially uncalled for, and it'd be nice to listen to a musical soundtrack without it being compared to Hamilton or any other LMM musical.
Or just ignore the comments. But hey, it could be worse—it could be like the extreme side of the SU or Voltron fandoms.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 21:12:07 GMT -5
agreed i've liked. totally backed out of musical theater spaces on the internet bc of it tbh and don't rlly talk irl about musicals anymore either bc u know an Obnoxious Hamilton Fan is just waiting to jump in
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Post by Northstar3213 on Aug 1, 2017 21:22:10 GMT -5
Hamilton is trash anyways.
The musical isn't all that special either.
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Post by vakarian on Aug 1, 2017 21:25:21 GMT -5
most of the obnoxious fans come from tumblr so i'm not surprised how bad it's gotten. tumblr is where fanbases go to die, so...
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Post by Northstar3213 on Aug 1, 2017 21:27:01 GMT -5
most of the obnoxious fans come from tumblr so i'm not surprised how bad it's gotten. tumblr is where fanbases go to die, so... A moment of silence for the fallen Warriors Undertale FNAF BATIM Any anime ever Steven Universe Marvel
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Post by vakarian on Aug 1, 2017 21:27:36 GMT -5
most of the obnoxious fans come from tumblr so i'm not surprised how bad it's gotten. tumblr is where fanbases go to die, so... A moment of silence for the fallen Warriors Undertale FNAF BATIM Any anime ever Steven Universe Marvel *plays "taps" sloppily on the trumpet*
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Post by indecisive on Aug 1, 2017 23:06:24 GMT -5
-mini rant ahead-
That's why I pretty much left the fandom, tbh. I mean, for the first few months after discovering it, I went through that cringy "Hamiltrash" phase, but it's been a year now and the other fans have pretty much ruined it for me. And you're right, it's not that great. The music's okay, but there's really only a few songs I actually like. I appreciate it for the history, but for as much research as Lin did, not all of it - or at least, his interpretation of it - is totally accurate.
I think part of the reason so many Hamilton fans are infiltrating other musical fandoms is because Hamilton was their first. It was probably a lot of people's introduction to musical theater. Since it has "modern, popular" music, I can see how it might be a jumping-off point. I just wish they didn't have to be so annoying about it. It seems like there's currently this Holy Trinity of Hamilton, Heathers and Dear Evan Hansen, even though those shows aren't remotely related?? And the jokes aren't even funny anymore. Enough with the "I came as soon as I heard" and "last time I was this early, Philip was still alive" and p l e a s e for the love of all that is good stop shipping founding fathers (biggest peeve right there)
I'm at the point where I'm kind of embarrassed to admit I still like Hamilton, even if it's just a little bit now.
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Post by indecisive on Aug 2, 2017 0:29:51 GMT -5
and like i'm all for supporting people that like things, but i've seen some people like treating the 'characters' as if they were actually fictional which gets into some major yikes/'problematic' territory Forgot about this one. Shoutout to the few sane fans who remember that they are not characters, but real people.
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Post by indecisive on Aug 2, 2017 0:46:26 GMT -5
The more I learn about Tumblr, the more relieved I am I don't have one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 4:36:56 GMT -5
bump
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 5:42:04 GMT -5
Ugh, I agree so much. The musical isn't even that good. I mean, I could stand listening to like 2 of the songs for a few hours, but nothing more. I hate how people are commenting stuff about Hamilton on other musicals. Enough of 'I came as soon as I heard' on a cover of Freeze Your Brain, please.
I really regret making my username mariareynolds.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 5:49:52 GMT -5
I think it's one of those things where it's insane popularity at the beginning actually kinda sets it up for failure later on. Like a fan base can only obsess/churn out material from a thing for so long, and Hamilton has reached its saturation point by now with that kind of thing.
I think once all the "extreme" fans back off and it goes quiet for awhile, everyone else will be able to appreciate it again. Also, I feel like this happens a lot for musicals, because at first every show ends up selling out and it's near impossible to get tickets. So we have no choice but to indulge in as much media as we can before the actual performance
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Post by 𝕡𝕖𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕥 on Aug 21, 2017 7:15:58 GMT -5
That's why I avoid the general fan base. Yes, I love the musical (just saw it yesterday, actually), and yes, I'm a fan, but the hardcore "owo hamiltrash" fans just ruin it completely, even if some of their content is amusing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 7:43:06 GMT -5
tbh after I stepped back and remembered that the entire thing was about real people I stopped liking it
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Aug 21, 2017 7:51:26 GMT -5
p l e a s e for the love of all that is good stop shipping founding fathers OOC This, this is why I can't stand those kind of Hamilton fans.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 7:53:30 GMT -5
tbh after I stepped back and remembered that the entire thing was about real people I stopped liking it forgot to add -because of the way the fandom treated the founding fathers I also legitimately forgot the crap the founding fathers have done they might have founded our country, but as people they were... not great, to say the least
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Aug 21, 2017 7:55:41 GMT -5
tbh after I stepped back and remembered that the entire thing was about real people I stopped liking it forgot to add -because of the way the fandom treated the founding fathers I also legitimately forgot the crap the founding fathers have done they might have founded our country, but as people they were... not great, to say the least OOC None of them were perfect, and some (like Thomas Jefferson) weren't the best people. However George Washington and John Adams were both pretty good men. Washington gave everything for this country, and Adams was honestly a fairly good man as far as most people were back then. I've read a lot about them all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 8:01:34 GMT -5
forgot to add -because of the way the fandom treated the founding fathers I also legitimately forgot the crap the founding fathers have done they might have founded our country, but as people they were... not great, to say the least OOC None of them were perfect, and some (like Thomas Jefferson) weren't the best people. However George Washington and John Adams were both pretty good men. Washington gave everything for this country, and Adams was honestly a fairly good man as far as most people were back then. I've read a lot about them all.
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George Washington owned slaves, alone with other founding fathers, and the founding fathers IN GENERAL were absolute hypocritical a-holes I like being American, but the founding fathers as people sucked, to say the least
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Aug 21, 2017 8:09:24 GMT -5
OOC None of them were perfect, and some (like Thomas Jefferson) weren't the best people. However George Washington and John Adams were both pretty good men. Washington gave everything for this country, and Adams was honestly a fairly good man as far as most people were back then. I've read a lot about them all.
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George Washington owned slaves, alone with other founding fathers, and the founding fathers IN GENERAL were absolute hypocritical a-holes I like being American, but the founding fathers as people sucked, to say the least OOC You can't judge a man who lived so long ago, based on our standards today. Everyone had slaves back then. Plus, George Washington took amazing care of his slaves, and once he died, he set them all free, which was a huge deal back then.
Believe me, I can be here all day, defending our first president. I'm sick of people saying he was horrible when he wasn't. Especially not for someone in that time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 8:18:56 GMT -5
George Washington owned slaves, alone with other founding fathers, and the founding fathers IN GENERAL were absolute hypocritical a-holes I like being American, but the founding fathers as people sucked, to say the least OOC You can't judge a man who lived so long ago, based on our standards today. Everyone had slaves back then. Plus, George Washington took amazing care of his slaves, and once he died, he set them all free, which was a huge deal back then.
Believe me, I can be here all day, defending our first president. I'm sick of people saying he was horrible when he wasn't. Especially not for someone in that time.
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If it's amoral now, it was amoral back then, even if no one thought it was. Despite the whole belief that you can't judge history using a 2017 mindset, you actually can, because guess what? Morals are morals, they don't change, even if no one thinks about them. Slavery is amoral. It always is. Yeah lol we could do this all day let's just agree to disagree
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Aug 21, 2017 8:22:26 GMT -5
OOC You can't judge a man who lived so long ago, based on our standards today. Everyone had slaves back then. Plus, George Washington took amazing care of his slaves, and once he died, he set them all free, which was a huge deal back then.
Believe me, I can be here all day, defending our first president. I'm sick of people saying he was horrible when he wasn't. Especially not for someone in that time.
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If it's amoral now, it was amoral back then, even if no one thought it was. Despite the whole belief that you can't judge history using a 2017 mindset, you actually can, because guess what? Morals are morals, they don't change, even if no one thinks about them. Slavery is amoral. It always is. Yeah lol we could do this all day let's just agree to disagree OOC I'm not saying slavery wasn't amoral, it was and is and should never have happened. I'm saying that you can't hold someone who lived back then, who grew up believing differently because they hadn't been taught anything else, to our standards today. That's not right either.
George Washington was a good man. Now I don't want to fight with you, I consider you a friend. But I'm gonna defend him, and believe me, I could go on for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 8:25:03 GMT -5
If it's amoral now, it was amoral back then, even if no one thought it was. Despite the whole belief that you can't judge history using a 2017 mindset, you actually can, because guess what? Morals are morals, they don't change, even if no one thinks about them. Slavery is amoral. It always is. Yeah lol we could do this all day let's just agree to disagree OOC I'm not saying slavery wasn't amoral, it was and is and should never have happened. I'm saying that you can't hold someone who lived back then, who grew up believing differently because they hadn't been taught anything else, to our standards today. That's not right either.
George Washington was a good man. Now I don't want to fight with you, I consider you a friend. But I'm gonna defend him, and believe me, I could go on for a long time.
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okay, fine I give up
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Post by Невыносимая коммунизм on Aug 21, 2017 9:03:31 GMT -5
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Spread the news kids.
So glad I didn't have to lock this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 9:04:52 GMT -5
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Spread the news kids.
So glad I didn't have to lock this thread. oh, hi kevin did the mods leave you at Walmart again?
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Post by Невыносимая коммунизм on Aug 21, 2017 9:14:47 GMT -5
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So glad I didn't have to lock this thread. oh, hi kevin did the mods leave you at Walmart again? ☞ ❀♖ ☜
Uh, what are you talking about??? of course not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 9:16:04 GMT -5
oh, hi kevin did the mods leave you at Walmart again? ☞ ❀♖ ☜
Uh, what are you talking about??? of course not.
I see you on there, don't try to hide
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