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Post by Mistybreeze on Jul 15, 2017 0:39:04 GMT -5
Awhile back, someone posted a thread on Twigpaw and Violetpaw's future allegiances. Almost everyone said that they think that Violetpaw will stay in ShadowClan. I'm curious as to why. She has no reason to remain loyal to ShadowClan. The only friend she ever had in that Clan is dead and she is still treated as an outsider, though that may change after the events of SS. She has every reason to leave. Her father is deputy of SkyClan and they are in desperate need for more warriors. They would take her in in a heartbeat, and would be much better received than in ShadowClan. She has already started to bond with her father. And despite their difficult past, she is still incredibly loyal to her sister.
Don't take this as bashing the people who think she will stay in ShadowClan, those people are entitled to their opinions as anyone else. I'm just surprised that so many people believe that. Especially considering that Violetpaw herself mentioned some of these points at the end of SS.
As a side note, I think that she will end up wherever Twigpaw does. Violetpaw is a follower, not a leader. But I highly doubt Twigpaw will stay in ThunderClan, so they will likely both end up in SkyClan.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 15, 2017 0:56:57 GMT -5
Now that Needletail is dead, Violetpaw doesn't have much of a reason to stay in ShadowClan anymore, and Twigpaw clearly wants to be with her father. Something tells me they'll both be going to SkyClan, but it's also possible that Violetpaw might at least stay with SkyClan temporarily considering she wanted to fight like a ShadowClan cat instead of beside Hawkwing and Twigpaw, and ShadowClan will likely be more accepting towards her now that she's pretty much their hero.
However, it's also just as possible that she'll grow to love her life in SkyClan if she does move there.
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Post by kinkajou on Jul 15, 2017 7:51:05 GMT -5
For some reason I can't see her in Skyclan :/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 8:01:23 GMT -5
I think she might stay in ShadowClan, as that would be what Needletail probably wanted. But she might go to SkyClan?? I don't know, really. But I still can't see her as a SkyClan cat.
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Post by Alpha on Jul 15, 2017 10:02:53 GMT -5
We need a POV to be in a crumbling ShadowClan though
If she joins SkyClan, it would be towards the end of the last book.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Jul 15, 2017 12:58:41 GMT -5
We need a POV to be in a crumbling ShadowClan though If she joins SkyClan, it would be towards the end of the last book. Not necessarily. ShadowClan has been crumbling before and we didn't get a POV. Besides, Violetpaw leaving could be the start of the end for ShadowClan.
As for her joining later, I highly doubt it. It seems pretty clear that this is her last chance to be with her family. I would be shocked if she gave it up.
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Jul 15, 2017 14:11:10 GMT -5
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Post by Darkfang ☾ on Jul 15, 2017 14:11:10 GMT -5
I think Violetpaw will stay loyal to ShadowClan because time and time again she has shown her loyalty to them.
First of all, she left the rogues and her best friend Needletail to rejoin ShadowClan, then she betrayed 'the kin' and at the same time but her life in danger to help ShadowClan. Finally, and this is the strongest imo (if it's correct as I haven't read the books in a while), when Twigpaw once asked her to come back to ThunderClan, she refused. If she wouldn't rejoin ThunderClan to be with her sister, who she knows, why would she join SkyClan to be with her father, who she's never met before?
I may be wrong but that's just my feeling on the situation.
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Post by *Faith* on Jul 15, 2017 14:20:58 GMT -5
I really do hope she moves to SkyClan. I want her to be with her family, plus they need more cats over there.
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Post by omegahound on Jul 16, 2017 0:52:34 GMT -5
Well, in fairness, ShadowClan now likely has less cats in it than SkyClan. A great many of the cats 'disappeared' or defected to the Kin, and the only ones accounted for at the end are:
Rowanstar Tawnypelt Tigerheart Puddleshine (who is probably the most traumatized kitten ever, at this point)
Strikestone Juniperclaw Snowbird and kits Scorchfur
Elders: Ratscar and Oakfur
and...well anyone else is just speculation. Spikefur, Sparrowtail...there aren't a lot. Apologies if I missed anyone!
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Post by Pyropelt on Jul 16, 2017 11:56:12 GMT -5
I hope she'll go to SkyClan wifh Twigpaw (if she decides to go)
But she'll probably stay in ShadowClan. If she does, I hope Tawnypelt will talk with her about how even though she and Bramblestar are in different clans, that they're still family. And how she can do even more good for ShadowClan.
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Post by *Faith* on Jul 16, 2017 14:31:43 GMT -5
Well, in fairness, ShadowClan now likely has less cats in it than SkyClan. A great many of the cats 'disappeared' or defected to the Kin, and the only ones accounted for at the end are: Rowanstar Tawnypelt Tigerheart Puddleshine (who is probably the most traumatized kitten ever, at this point) Strikestone Juniperclaw Snowbird and kits Scorchfur Elders: Ratscar and Oakfur and...well anyone else is just speculation. Spikefur, Sparrowtail...there aren't a lot. Apologies if I missed anyone! I'm pretty sure Grassheart's kits are still in ShadowClan. At least, Kate once stated they were still alive.
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Post by snowfoot on Jul 16, 2017 22:22:25 GMT -5
All Violetpaw has wanted in this arc so far is to prove that she can be a loyal Shadowclan cat, I think it'd make the most sense for her character arc if she chooses to stay. Or die for Shadowclan? I can totally see her making a heroic final act to prove herself as a Shadowclan cat that seems to be her vibe to me
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