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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 18:08:18 GMT -5
Eh, I'm bored. So request a cat (but no kits, come on, they're mostly short-lived /: ) and I'll tell you my opinion.
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 14, 2017 18:15:41 GMT -5
Sleekwhisker
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 19:08:38 GMT -5
She's decent as a villain, but I want to see more of her. Not much to say about her since I don't remember much of this arc now. ^^;;
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Post by Moonblazer on Jul 14, 2017 19:32:59 GMT -5
Mmmm
Littlecloud
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 19:43:22 GMT -5
I liked his friendship with Cinderpelt, but I never really shipped them together. I guess I was always neutral on him, never really had an opinion. It's a shame he was treated with such disrespect before he died, though.
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Post by Pyropelt on Jul 14, 2017 22:16:06 GMT -5
Adderfang
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Post by snowfoot on Jul 14, 2017 22:28:00 GMT -5
Flametail ?
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Post by Dawnrise on Jul 15, 2017 0:28:19 GMT -5
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Post by Jei-Dinofelini on Jul 17, 2017 5:51:51 GMT -5
Mapleshade
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 10:18:35 GMT -5
I'm afraid I don't remember much of Adderfang, haven't read BP in a while.
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Post by Sησω on Jul 17, 2017 10:20:17 GMT -5
Hollyleaf
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 10:25:24 GMT -5
*cracks knuckles" This'll be fun. Flametail is a jerk. I never liked him even when I first read OotS. Now, Flametail is a good medicine cat. I liked him for caring for his Clan, and I do appreciate that he loves his Clan and family more than he loves himself. But that doesn't mean I like him as a character. After Lionblaze killed Russetfur, he took things a little too far. Flametail began to take advantage of his medicine cat rank, crossing territories to try to bully Lionblaze. He kept calling him a murderer, making him feel bad when all Lionblaze did was toss her aside. Flametail also thinks he can cross territories wherever he wants just because he's the medicine cat. Sure, you can, but only for a good reason. And crossing territories just to upset someone definitely isn't a good one. Not to mention he also tried to drown Jayfeather. It sucks that he died and that Ivypool tried to kill him, but why put the blame on Jayfeather? Jayfeather tried to save his life; Flametail heard and saw Rock himself. I think it's the fault of the bad writing though, not so much of Flametail himself. It's just a shame he died so early for a pointless plot situation. I feel like what they did for him was a waste. He could've saved ShadowClan so much worries now if the Erins hadn't killed him off. Much as I dislike Flametail, I feel like the Erins gave him disrespect.
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Post by Pyropelt on Jul 17, 2017 14:08:19 GMT -5
I'm afraid I don't remember much of Adderfang, haven't read BP in a while. Oh ok no problem. How about Tawnypelt?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 14:29:59 GMT -5
I liked him as Onewhisker, when he was friendly with Firestar. But after he became leader, things went downhill. Onestar hurt Firestar just to prove himself, and attacked his camp in the middle of the night. They were unprepared which caused all the Clans in the forest to fight in ThunderClan's territory. I think he redeemed himself just by a tad bit after killing Darktail, though I wish he showed more concern about SkyClan than his own pride. Smh, Onestar is just a mess, pretty much no one likes him at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 14:43:15 GMT -5
While I don't entirely mind Tigerheart as a character, there are some things I can't really stand about him. For one, he doesn't take things seriously. On the journey to the beavers when they were being chased by humans, he thought it was all fun and games. And he still clings onto his friendship with Dovewing, which also makes me wonder if he's only still with her because he wants to get away from the Dark Forest. He doesn't take Dovewing seriously, or even respect her. When she was caught by Ivypool together he took her as hostage in exchange for catmint, using the knowledge she told him despite ThunderClan's desperation for the herbs. He had the nerve to become bitter after she began to ignore him. Tigerheart had good intentions when he used Dovewing, don't get me wrong, but it wasn't the right way to go. She's sensitive and too trusting, and he has betrayed that trust. He had multiple chances to stay as her friend and he blew them all. He couldn't even respect the fact that she told him no when she didn't want to be with him in TLH. And she feared that he might hurt her in revenge. When there's no trust in a relationship, that's unhealthy. Using his own girlfriend's sister was unhealthy. Lying to her was unhealthy. It really does seem like Tigerheart never thought of this relationship as anything serious, just a plaything to get away from the Dark Forest. He hasn't even tried to move on (which should be easier considering they're both from different Clans) and kept trying to contact her through Ivypool in BrS, he was mad that "she chose her clan over him" instead of supporting her loyalty for her Clan, his relationship with her is just unhealthy, Tigerheart tries too hard to be with her, and now look at what happened. She's crawling back to him, now that he's in ThunderClan. But I won't fully judge him once I read his POV.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 14:54:41 GMT -5
Goodness where do I start? Mapleshade isn't the greatest character ever that people say she is. She was good in CP, and I even liked her in SH because she was back to her cruel self I enjoyed reading about in CP, but her character went downhill when MV came out. It was predictable, imo she should have had a SE to explain all of the plot holes they never described. Why was Birchface such a big deal? Is he like Stormtail, well respected yet supportive to his leader? Why did Frecklewish suddenly stop loving the kits when she found out the truth and blamed them? This book, through Mapleshade's POV, everyone was potrayed as a jerk. She blamed everyone, having the nerve to believe that she's done nothing wrong despite killing 3 cats. Murder is disgusting, no matter how everyone sees it. So what if she had a hard life? That justifies nothing. She chose her fate the moment she killed Ravenwing, who was only doing his job, btw. He had to tell the truth.. if he never did then Oakstar, being the ignorant beast he is, would've exiled him too. Ravenwing couldn't lie to his Clanmates. As for Frecklewish.. people forget thst Birchface was her brother. She was annoying about it, sure, but considering we haven't seen their mother around in the book, she probably lost her too. Mapleshade did lie. She admitted it herself, that she didn't lie "out loud". She has betrayed her best friend by making her believe in a false lie, that Birchface was her mate, but he wasn't, it was Appledusk who was her mate. Appledusk was the father of the kits, and when the truth came out she was horrified. Not to mention Frecklewish was already suicidal enough after losing her brother, it's only natural she'd be awful to Mapleshade, who has betrayed her. Mapleshade brought everything upon herself. And there was even a bridge she could have crossed while the river was flooding, yet she decided to swim? Three kits, who were already stressed out and tired from their previous swim, had to cross a raging river. Just because they loved swimming doesn't mean they were strong enough to make it through a storm, why couldn't Mapleshade have just used the bridge? The kits might have had a higher chance of making it. The only time I felt sorry for her was when Appledusk lied to her and when she was thrown out twice by Darkstar and Oakstar. Darkstar showed no sympathy for her, a mother who just lost her entire family and children, and even I don't believe that Oakstar should have punished her in such a harsh way. But my sympathy for her was gone the moment she killed Ravenwing and decided to throw the pity party by blaming others for what she's done, by lying to her Clan, betraying her best friend and falling for Appledusk.
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Post by jaybay021 on Jul 17, 2017 16:36:13 GMT -5
jayfeather
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