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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 15:54:25 GMT -5
There has been many instances where I question Starclan's decisions. A few instances that bring this into question...
When Starclan let Onewhsker become leader when he was never deputy. Surely the pocket dimension that I theorize Starclan is in can somehow see future events or many different outcomes. That's how they get prophecies and omens. Then why did they let Onestar become leader? They should have seen the damage it would cause the minds of Windclan and how it would affect the relationship with Thunderclan (prime example: the unlawful night ambush windclan did). Why did they actively decide to doom Windclan by giving them a terrible leader?
Why do Starclan send omens when it doesn't apply to the present time and cats they show the omen to? For example, Goosefeather having an omen about the battle in Eclipse. It didn't apply to them then because it was about a different event and because they got it so early (literally years and years early) Moonflower died.
There should be more conflict in Starclan because all the clans are there and there's different generations there, but none of them are active in the books because the only Starclan cats we ever see are Thunderclan related or were in the original series only.
STARCLAN MAKES NO SENSE. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS, ANCESTORS.
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Post by Winterstorm on Aug 6, 2016 16:45:07 GMT -5
Honestly Starclan went downhill after the first series.
Also why did Starclan sent a omen to Ravenwing about the kits if they knew the future? The omen caused three innocent kittens to drown.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 18:18:30 GMT -5
Honestly Starclan went downhill after the first series. Also why did Starclan sent a omen to Ravenwing about the kits if they knew the future? The omen caused three innocent kittens to drown. That's also true. Starclan got too much for me after the os. #StarclanKilledMapleShadesKits2K16 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 18:53:21 GMT -5
I never understood them either. They seem all powerful and all-knowing but they don't know nothin. The only power they really do have is the clan's nine lives which, admittedly, yes are an important part of the clan's survival, but really, that's it. They've shown to be stable and level-headed, yes, but Mothwing was also right that most of them are probably as crazy and dumb as they were when they were alive.
I do think StarClan are good at times, but others (most) of the time they're just a bunch of dead cats. Which is a shame.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 19:07:40 GMT -5
They use the magic conch from Spongebob to make their choices
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 21:05:20 GMT -5
They use the magic conch from Spongebob to make their choices laughed harder at this than i should have |
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Post by nem on Aug 6, 2016 21:11:57 GMT -5
They use the magic conch from Spongebob to make their choices "Can the Clans have something to eat?" "No." "Sorry Clans, the Magic Conch said so." |
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Aug 6, 2016 22:02:13 GMT -5
I think they just get bored and like to mess with the living world.
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Post by John 3:16 on Aug 6, 2016 22:29:11 GMT -5
They use the magic conch from Spongebob to make their choices I'm cryign |
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Post by Cloudshadow on Aug 6, 2016 23:50:44 GMT -5
Do you think if your theory about StarClan being in a pocket dimension is true, that Goosefeather could simply have a connection to this dimension as well? Instead of getting the omen about the Eclipse battle from StarClan he actually got it straight from where StarClan gets the prophecies.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 1:20:23 GMT -5
Onewhisker legally became deputy so they had to honor that. I think Goosefeathers power was independant of Starclan Conclusion: Starclan is weak Onewhisker did NOT become deputy legally. instead of making a new thread just for that, allow me to explain this for the MILLIONTH BLEEPING TIME. Onewhisker went from warrior to leader. He was NEVER deputy. The half-butted "ceremony" tallstar did was half-butted. Onewhisker never SERVED as deputy because right after the "ceremony" tallstar died. Mudclaw did not consent to have his position be stripped away and given to someone else. No one else from Windclan was there to witness it either. SO FOR THE LAST TIME: ONEWHISKER WAS NEVER DEPUTY AND THEREFORE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LEADER. STARCLAN AND THE ERINS ARE HYPOCRITES AND SADISTS. |
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My full names are Hollyleaf;) and Snowwing™
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Post by Holly Snow on Aug 7, 2016 15:22:29 GMT -5
Onewhisker legally became deputy so they had to honor that. I think Goosefeathers power was independant of Starclan Conclusion: Starclan is weak Onewhisker did NOT become deputy legally. instead of making a new thread just for that, allow me to explain this for the MILLIONTH BLEEPING TIME. Onewhisker went from warrior to leader. He was NEVER deputy. The half-butted "ceremony" tallstar did was half-butted. Onewhisker never SERVED as deputy because right after the "ceremony" tallstar died. Mudclaw did not consent to have his position be stripped away and given to someone else. No one else from Windclan was there to witness it either. SO FOR THE LAST TIME: ONEWHISKER WAS NEVER DEPUTY AND THEREFORE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LEADER. STARCLAN AND THE ERINS ARE HYPOCRITES AND SADISTS. Regardless of it being done at the last minute and in judgement, its still legal. The Warrior Code does not have a time of service requirement for leader ascension, it only requires that you were made deputy and had an apprentice. According to the code a leaders word is law. So Onewhisker's deputyship is legal. It doesn't matter if you think it shouldn't be legal what matters is whether it is legal. |
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Post by Leonard on Aug 7, 2016 15:44:29 GMT -5
Mudclaw did not consent to have his position be stripped away and given to someone else. Why would his opinion matter? He doesn't have to agree to get kicked out. It's Tallstar who's in power to choose his deputy. |
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Aug 7, 2016 15:48:47 GMT -5
Onewhisker did NOT become deputy legally. instead of making a new thread just for that, allow me to explain this for the MILLIONTH BLEEPING TIME. Onewhisker went from warrior to leader. He was NEVER deputy. The half-butted "ceremony" tallstar did was half-butted. Onewhisker never SERVED as deputy because right after the "ceremony" tallstar died. Mudclaw did not consent to have his position be stripped away and given to someone else. No one else from Windclan was there to witness it either. SO FOR THE LAST TIME: ONEWHISKER WAS NEVER DEPUTY AND THEREFORE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LEADER. STARCLAN AND THE ERINS ARE HYPOCRITES AND SADISTS. Regardless of it being done at the last minute and in judgement, its still legal. The Warrior Code does not have a time of service requirement for leader ascension, it only requires that you were made deputy and had an apprentice. According to the code a leaders word is law. So Onewhisker's deputyship is legal. It doesn't matter if you think it shouldn't be legal what matters is whether it is legal. True |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 15:53:05 GMT -5
But it isn't legal. The point is that is unfair and last minute. no matter what you say, onestar is never leader in my eyes. end of story.
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Holly Snow
My full names are Hollyleaf;) and Snowwing™
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Post by Holly Snow on Aug 7, 2016 17:07:44 GMT -5
But it isn't legal. The point is that is unfair and last minute. no matter what you say, onestar is never leader in my eyes. end of story. legal doesn't always mean ethical or fair. I may not like that Onestar was made leader but he is leader and he fills the requirements of the law. |
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Post by ☾ Cʀᴇsᴄᴇɴᴛ ☽ on Aug 7, 2016 17:09:20 GMT -5
I never really liked Starclan much. They kind of just became an immortal clan who bickered over the living cats. So yeah, I agree with you.
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Post by Bluebell on Aug 7, 2016 18:40:54 GMT -5
I always thought StarClan got the prophecies and omens from Rock and Midnight. The two of them saw the future of the Clans reflected in the lake and were able to form the prophecies and omens, proceeding to passing it on to StarClan.
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