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Post by 𝕡𝕖𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕥 on Apr 11, 2017 16:02:04 GMT -5
I'm back, after an unplanned hiatus! Anyway... So. The bonus scene. Here's a condensed summary, as well as the pictures. Needless to say, it's a bit of a . . . disappointment. It's also rather spoilery. Summary: Dovewing is the narrator. (Ugh. I know). This scene takes place the morning after the argument that prompted Twigpaw to run away. She confronts Ivypool about the argument she had made. (She had argued against sending out a quest to find Twigpaw's kin, AKA SkyClan.) After debating the situation, Ivypool implies that she made her argument publicly due to Tigerheart volunteering to help, and that Dovewing should be able to find happiness from within the Clan. Notably, she said this right as Bumblestripe walked in. Dovewing storms off, and Bumblestripe hurries after her.
He offers to take her hunting, and she reluctantly agrees. They work together to catch a squirrel, and Bumblestripe makes a remark about how they "make the best team". Dovewing is understandably embarrassed, and she briefly thinks about getting back together with him, feeling confused. She gets annoyed after he interferes with her next hunt to make the catch himself, and accuses him of treating her like a kit. She quickly apologizes, but insists on going back to camp. They walk in just in time to witness Purdy's death.
Dovewing is upset by this. Unable to process his death, she leaves the vigil to be by herself, but is followed by, you guessed it, Bumblestripe. He asks her whether she remembers the time she boosted Seedpaw's confidence while they were hunting during the Great Storm. Dovewing nods, and is rather puzzled at this. Bumblestripe continues, saying that afterward he had told her that she was going to be a great mother one day. He says that they should "try again", because life is short and she's the one thing he wants most. Basically, he wants her to have his kits.
Dovewing is taken aback by this, considering what had just happened. Angrily, she says that Darktail is still out there, and that she wouldn't be able to support the fight against him if she were pregnant. She states that bringing new life into the Clan at this point in time would only result in heartbreak and loss, and that she would not go through a kitting just to give Darktail more victims. Bumblestripe insists that new kits would give the Clan more to fight for, and produce more fighters, and that she should really think about this.
Later, Dovewing is sitting vigil, when she is approached by Tigerheart. He can tell that there's something more to her distress than Purdy's death. He adds that he wouldn't repeat anything she said. So Dovewing tells him about her conversation with Bumblestripe, and Tigerheart is supportive of her opinion. He comments that they're at "that age", the age when they start having kits. Dovewing isn't sure how she feels about that.
They resume the vigil. Dovewing overhears the beginning of Alderheart's conversation with Bramblestar. It's soon announced that they believe Twigpaw may have gone to search for SkyClan. Tigerheart volunteers to search for her, and Dovewing realizes that Bumblestripe is definitely not volunteering. She requests to go as well; it's implied that she was going solely because of the opportunity to be with Tigerheart, and to be away from camp and Bumblestripe. Molewhisker accompanies them, and they leave. As they walk through the entrance, Dovewing thinks about how she feels like she's exactly were she's supposed to be, at Tigerheart's side.
Then it just . . . ends. Pictures: My thoughts: They just had to waste this scene, didn't they? I hate how Dovewing keeps getting shoehorned into the books. Her arc is over. Leave her be. Also, I repeatedly got the feeling that Dove x Tiger was being shoved down our throats here in preparation for Tigerheart's Shadow . . .
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Post by Lightflame on Apr 11, 2017 16:07:06 GMT -5
Kill me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 16:07:25 GMT -5
THIS IS SO HORRIBLE. i hate dovextiger. this makes me hate it more and it makes me dislik dovewing even more too!! NOOO. i told you guys she didnt mature. she still holds onto tigerheart instead of moving on with her life like a mature adult with other life goals. like are YOU KIDDING ME!?!?
i hate this so much.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 16:07:37 GMT -5
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Apr 11, 2017 16:09:41 GMT -5
I feel like they're purposely making Bumblestripe look creepy so he eventually becomes Ashfur 2.0. There's rumors that the next arc may revolve around Dove's kits. In all honesty, they need to leave Dove alone. It they really want a character to give birth to the next heroes, then just continue with IvyxFern or use Cinderheart's second litter. The fandom is honestly getting tired of Dovewing.
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Post by Amber on Apr 11, 2017 16:15:41 GMT -5
Not sure if this exactly counts as a spoiler, but I do agree with Rainleaf that it seems they're trying hard to make Bumblestripe an Ashfur 2.0. Why can't they just leave them be and have Bumblestripe get together with Rosepetal and Dovewing to either get with a new tom or no one at all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 16:17:53 GMT -5
this makes me so angry...they ruined my hope for dovewing to mature and move on with her life...they ruined bumblestripe by trying too hard to turn him into ashfur 2.0. JUST LET BUMBLE GET WITH ROSE ALREADY. RUMBLE IS OTP ANYWAYS
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Post by 𝕡𝕖𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕥 on Apr 11, 2017 16:23:54 GMT -5
Tbh I honestly couldn't care less about Dovewing's love life at this point. Bumblestripe has been ruined to make Tigerheart look more desirable, probably because the latter isn't that appealing on his own. The fact that Dovewing's being dragged into all of this makes me like her less and less. I don't care how this dumb love triangle is resolved, only that it ends soon. Not to mention, it's irrelevant to the actual plot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 16:25:36 GMT -5
𝕡𝕖𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕥too true...they ruined my poor baby bumble...im sad.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 11, 2017 16:28:02 GMT -5
It seems fine on its own, but I don't think it should've been a bonus scene, especially since Dovewing has gotten an arc and a novella told from her PoV already. I get that they might be foreshadowing TS, but it just comes off as annoying. And if they still wanted to write a TigerxDove bonus scene, then at the very least, have it told from Tigerheart's PoV.
And another thing, here I thought that Bumblestripe had moved on from Dovewing. It's been seasons since their break up and he suggests kits now, at a time when Darktail was still a huge threat? And just after Purdy died, too. Honestly, Bumblestripe. Just let it go already! I swear, this is just like Ashfur, but without the murderous vengeance. Tigerheart is seeming better in comparison, and I don't even like TigerxDove.
Oh, the Erins better not do that thing where a character seems really nice and then completely out of nowhere, said character becomes a total jerk just to make another character look better by comparison. I hate it when writers do that (looking at you, Sarah J. Maas! Not that I liked her books to begin with.) and I feel this is what they're going to do with Tigerheart and Bumblestripe. Well, I guess they've kind of been doing it already, but I mean I get the feeling it's going to be done more than before now, especially in TS.
As for the bonus scene itself, I feel like they should've chosen another character. Squirrelflight getting TAQ I kind of get since she's Alderheart's mother and I definitely get Needletail getting TAS since she's a main character, but Dovewing getting SS? Come on! If not getting to read more about Darktail and/or his backstory, I was really hoping for Pebbleshine to get it, but noooooo! We can't have nice things, can we?
Seriously though, this does seem to be setting up TS, at least somewhat.
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 11, 2017 16:30:48 GMT -5
Meh! I still want to know what Dovewing and Tigerheart were talking about at the end of SS.
Anyways...yeah. I did like Dovewing's novella.
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Post by 𝕡𝕖𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕥 on Apr 11, 2017 16:32:18 GMT -5
Meh! I still want to know what Dovewing and Tigerheart were talking about at the end of SS. Anyways...yeah. I did like Dovewing's novella. I bet she got pregnant while they searched for Twigpaw, or something like that.
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 11, 2017 16:41:08 GMT -5
Meh! I still want to know what Dovewing and Tigerheart were talking about at the end of SS. Anyways...yeah. I did like Dovewing's novella. I bet she got pregnant while they searched for Twigpaw, or something like that. I never thought of that... 0_0"
I remember someone once asked Kate on he4r blog if she can give them kits, but Kate said that it would be problematic. And besides, Molewhisker was with them. Would they really risk this?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 16:57:17 GMT -5
I just puked a little bit.
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Post by Moonrose on Apr 11, 2017 17:04:46 GMT -5
I feel that if Dovewing and Tigerheart are going to be together, they should either move to SkyClan or go on as loners.
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Post by 𝕡𝕖𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕥 on Apr 11, 2017 17:08:34 GMT -5
Pictures are now up!
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Post by Moonblazer on Apr 11, 2017 17:14:24 GMT -5
I want to slam my head in a door
Dovewing, Tigerheart and Molewhisker...ughhhh. Twigpaw wasn't even Shadowclan! Dovewing needs to be left alone, I even feel bad for her at this point!
Send other warriors for once. My god. Whitewing, Molewhisker, Brightheart, mix it up! I want other characters to actually do something!
I highly dislike TigerXDove...
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 11, 2017 17:32:46 GMT -5
Thanks for the pictures! It was an interesting bonus scene, albeit surprising. So... Ivypool wants Dovewing and Bumblestripe to get back together? That's what it felt like to me.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 11, 2017 17:38:00 GMT -5
Thanks for the pictures.
But I'm really beginning to dislike Bumblestripe by this point. Like come, dude!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 18:26:07 GMT -5
God dammit Erins. I liked her! And now you're making her go back to him? All of the effort of her trying to move on was for NOTHING. Dovewing, I am disappointed in you.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 11, 2017 18:39:58 GMT -5
God dammit Erins. I liked her! And now you're making her go back to him? All of the effort of her trying to move on was for NOTHING. Dovewing, I am disappointed in you. To be fair though, when you try, that doesn't always guarantee you'll succeed and while clearly still loves Tigerheart, she's done a better job at handling their break up than Tigerheart has. Heck, Tigerheart himself is doing a better job than Bumblestripe. At least he isn't suggesting they have kits right after a cat dies and during such a dangerous time too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 19:04:50 GMT -5
God dammit Erins. I liked her! And now you're making her go back to him? All of the effort of her trying to move on was for NOTHING. Dovewing, I am disappointed in you. To be fair though, when you try, that doesn't always guarantee you'll succeed and while clearly still loves Tigerheart, she's done a better job at handling their break up than Tigerheart has. Heck, Tigerheart himself is doing a better job than Bumblestripe. At least he isn't suggesting they have kits right after a cat dies and during such a dangerous time too. I suppose you're right, but it's still disappointing how they're bringing back a pointless forbidden love couple.
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Post by *Faith* on Apr 11, 2017 19:09:31 GMT -5
Oh, Bumblestripe. There are other she-cats you know, not just Dovewing. But he really wants her to have his kits. Hm. ._."
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Apr 12, 2017 0:13:11 GMT -5
I....wow.
Hm. So Ivypool is trying to look out for her sister so she doesn't repeat the same mistake twice, by breaking the warrior code and getting with Tigerheart again. But then feels guilty and blames herself after for Twigpaw leaving.
On the other hand Dovewing is still be a fickle selfish brat, oh my god, and here I thought she finally matured, apparently not. She considers getting back with Bumble again, why??? Even for a moment, why??? When you're the one that broke up with him in the first place?? Then another moment she wants to be with Tiger, and I just??????????
Pushing her annoying behavior aside, Bumblestripe is just as annoying, constantly being clingy SITLL, you'd think he'd be over her by now????????????? Apparently not. Are kits the only thing on this toms mind? Wha??
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Apr 12, 2017 0:19:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the pictures! It was an interesting bonus scene, albeit surprising. So... Ivypool wants Dovewing and Bumblestripe to get back together? That's what it felt like to me. It feels more like Ivypool just wants to keep Dovewing away from Tigerheart, and I agree. The more time those two spend together, the more likely they seem possible again. Ivypool is probably happy as along as she finds happiness INSIDE the clan, because we all know how forbidden relationships end up...*side glances a few* When you think about it, I wouldn't blame her if she did want her to get back with Bumble. From her view she's basically saying, "If you want to be single, sure that's fine. But if you're so eager to jump into a forbidden relationship, why do that when there's a cat willing to be with you already in ThunderClan.". Dovewing either getting with Bumble, or another cat, or just staying single, can prevent so much drama tbh. You also have to remember that Ivy and Bumble, surprisingly, are very good friends. On a posts I did once, noting Bumble's moments, he interacts with Ivypool a lot, enough for them to be able to confide in one another. So as Dovewing's sister, she'd probably want what's best for her, her getting a mate in the clan, an that can also possibly be one of her close friends. It's no wonder she'd approve of it. But I don't think she's aware of how "creepy" ....Bumble is getting.
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Post by Jei-Dinofelini on Apr 12, 2017 6:30:01 GMT -5
Thank you!!!! *reads*
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Post by Jei-Dinofelini on Apr 12, 2017 6:42:40 GMT -5
I just read it. Well I prefer Tiger Dove to be honest I'm not a fan of BumblexDove at all.... i dont know they just don't seem right together to me.... :/
Bumbles tripe seems getting creeper and creeper... DX
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 1:40:47 GMT -5
I am in the 1% that actually doesn't mind this. I always liked Tigerheart and Dovewing together as well as individual characters, plus Tigerheart's Shadow comes out next before The Darkesr Night if I recall correctly, so it makes sense to give Dovewing the bonus scene.
Also, people complain that their relationship is rushed and immature, well by spending time together they can work things out and form a real relationship.
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