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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Aug 5, 2016 13:28:08 GMT -5
They were thinking about the prophecy and ShadowClan wanted in on the action. And although Needlepaw wasn't supposed to go on the quest, she did really help and without her, Alderpaw might have never found the kits. She also wanted to be in on the prophecy. And as far as we know, her and Rowanstar didn't have any siblings, so they probably didn't understand the pain of separating them as much as Alderpaw did. It seemed like the only fair thing to do at the time was to separate them. Bramblestar went along with it because he didn't want to right with his brother-in-law and wanted to keep an eye the prophecy as well because he is the one that knows about SkyClan.
Not saying that what they did was right, and it was horrible to separate the kits, but I understand why it was done.
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Post by SurvivorDogStorm309 on Aug 5, 2016 14:07:51 GMT -5
They were thinking about the prophecy and ShadowClan wanted in on the action. And although Needlepaw wasn't supposed to go on the quest, she did really help and without her, Alderpaw might have never found the kits. She also wanted to be in on the prophecy. And as far as we know, her and Rowanstar didn't have any siblings, so they probably didn't understand the pain of separating them as much as Alderpaw did. It seemed like the only fair thing to do at the time was to separate them. Bramblestar went along with it because he didn't want to right with his brother-in-law and wanted to keep an eye the prophecy as well because he is the one that knows about SkyClan. Not saying that what they did was right, and it was horrible to separate the kits, but I understand why it was done. Some ways I do understand but at the same time I don't see how they kept on going after the kits started wailing for each other is being apart of a prophecy so you can catch up to Thunderclan in the completing prophecy thing so important that you have to stoop so low. Well to me shadowclan doesn't need anymore kits in there clan they already can't control the ones they've got. sometimes I like needlepaw and in others I don't I can relate to violet kit and Twigkt I had a brother taken from me long story eventually we were able to be united again but it is so painful so I know how these two kits feel as I said before what made it worse they were the only family they had. |
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Post by pastelpills on Aug 13, 2016 12:51:47 GMT -5
I agree, Alderpaw has the point taht it was HIS prophecy, StarClan sent the vision to HIM and Needlepaw shouldnt have gone on the journey. She is a little idiot, I hate that cat. She is from now on my least favorite character. She is annoying and makes me mad, I wish the series was without her. She doenst feel anything towards Violetkit and looks at her as an object that should fulfill the prophecy, not a young kit that has feelings and misses Lilyheart and Twigkit. I hate her so much and I hope she dies soon.
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Post by pastelpills on Aug 13, 2016 12:54:59 GMT -5
They were thinking about the prophecy and ShadowClan wanted in on the action. And although Needlepaw wasn't supposed to go on the quest, she did really help and without her, Alderpaw might have never found the kits. She also wanted to be in on the prophecy. And as far as we know, her and Rowanstar didn't have any siblings, so they probably didn't understand the pain of separating them as much as Alderpaw did. It seemed like the only fair thing to do at the time was to separate them. Bramblestar went along with it because he didn't want to right with his brother-in-law and wanted to keep an eye the prophecy as well because he is the one that knows about SkyClan. Not saying that what they did was right, and it was horrible to separate the kits, but I understand why it was done. Actually, I think his brother was Cedarheart and his mother Darkflower, because when she moved back to being a warrior from queen, two new apprentices appeared - Cedarpaw and Rowanpaw. I see what you mean and I get that they were only trying to be fair, but I dont know why exactly they chose this. From Violetkits wailing, even cats without siblings would understand imo. I just feel the kits were treated like emotionless objects that dont have their own opinion. |
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Post by pastelpills on Aug 13, 2016 12:55:37 GMT -5
The thing that makes me mad the most is probably that they dont even know the true meaning of the prophecy. Bramblestar should tell till he has time imho.
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Post by Wicked Witch on Aug 13, 2016 14:05:58 GMT -5
I agree, Alderpaw has the point taht it was HIS prophecy, StarClan sent the vision to HIM and Needlepaw shouldnt have gone on the journey. She is a little idiot, I hate that cat. She is from now on my least favorite character. She is annoying and makes me mad, I wish the series was without her. She doenst feel anything towards Violetkit and looks at her as an object that should fulfill the prophecy, not a young kit that has feelings and misses Lilyheart and Twigkit. I hate her so much and I hope she dies soon. The prophecy doesn't soley belong to Alderpaw. It belonged to all the Clans considering the prologue shows that the medicinne cats received this prophecy through a shared dream. Alderpaw was simply leading a quest to find SkyClan due to the prophecy. It doesn't make it his prophecy. Assuming you're talking about when Sandstorm told him to take a different path, then yes StarClan sent the vision to him but it was Needlepaw's ingenuity that led them to the kits; she was the one who thought of going under the Thunderpath in the first place. Doesn't seem idiotic to me. Unless that waas just meant as a random insult. She shouldn't have gone but she the questing cats agreed to it. Besides, if I remember correctly she was just following them in secret until a fox came and she helped fight it off. Um, on another thread you said you read Thunder and Shadow's excerpt {If you haven't read it yet, you might want to stop reading this post now) which shows her taking the time and risk to get Violetkit to sneak out of camp and meet her sister that she was separated from. And she also promised to bond with her more. |
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Post by pastelpills on Aug 13, 2016 14:17:32 GMT -5
I agree, Alderpaw has the point taht it was HIS prophecy, StarClan sent the vision to HIM and Needlepaw shouldnt have gone on the journey. She is a little idiot, I hate that cat. She is from now on my least favorite character. She is annoying and makes me mad, I wish the series was without her. She doenst feel anything towards Violetkit and looks at her as an object that should fulfill the prophecy, not a young kit that has feelings and misses Lilyheart and Twigkit. I hate her so much and I hope she dies soon. The prophecy doesn't soley belong to Alderpaw. It belonged to all the Clans considering the prologue shows that the medicinne cats received this prophecy through a shared dream. Alderpaw was simply leading a quest to find SkyClan due to the prophecy. It doesn't make it his prophecy. Assuming you're talking about when Sandstorm told him to take a different path, then yes StarClan sent the vision to him but it was Needlepaw's ingenuity that led them to the kits; she was the one who thought of going under the Thunderpath in the first place. Doesn't seem idiotic to me. Unless that waas just meant as a random insult. She shouldn't have gone but she the questing cats agreed to it. Besides, if I remember correctly she was just following them in secret until a fox came and she helped fight it off. Um, on another thread you said you read Thunder and Shadow's excerpt {If you haven't read it yet, you might want to stop reading this post now) which shows her taking the time and risk to get Violetkit to sneak out of camp and meet her sister that she was separated from. And she also promised to bond with her more. I guess I agree with that. My point was that the vision for the journey was for Alderpaw only. |
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