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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 20:02:29 GMT -5
If I make it TOO obvious it’ll kind of ruin the point of keeping it secret in the first place. That’s why I clam up any time I’m asked much over Sarastro and the Queen, as the entire point of both of them is that we only learn what they’re doing quite far into the plot. The comic schedule is the only thing that I do good at with schedules lmao. Probably because since it’s so dang HUGE overall that I don’t want it to span out for an infinite amount of time @ - Yeah, that would ruin the whole point XD Yeah, it's important not to reveal too much x3 Oml, I can't keep a schedule for the life of me, lmao. So you basically just take what you have written, sketch it, make it digital and then post it?
I usually start the pages with a didgital rough sketch in MS Paint, which looks something like this (which is for this week’s update): Then I take the very shoddy-looking result of this, ink it digitally and Photoshop, and then do the coloring. It’s a lengthy process. There’s also a script for scenes, which written in advance to me drawing them. That basically looks like a standard stage script complete with stage directions and everything lmao
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Post by prophet on Oct 31, 2017 20:59:39 GMT -5
I usually start the pages with a didgital rough sketch in MS Paint, which looks something like this (which is for this week’s update): Then I take the very shoddy-looking result of this, ink it digitally and Photoshop, and then do the coloring. It’s a lengthy process. There’s also a script for scenes, which written in advance to me drawing them. That basically looks like a standard stage script complete with stage directions and everything lmao @ - Oh, ok. (Omg, next weeks update!) Sounds like a lot of work! Omg, you wrote it like a script? I guess that makes sense, since it's drawn XD
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 4:45:54 GMT -5
I usually start the pages with a didgital rough sketch in MS Paint, which looks something like this (which is for this week’s update): Then I take the very shoddy-looking result of this, ink it digitally and Photoshop, and then do the coloring. It’s a lengthy process. There’s also a script for scenes, which written in advance to me drawing them. That basically looks like a standard stage script complete with stage directions and everything lmao @ - Oh, ok. (Omg, next weeks update!) Sounds like a lot of work! Omg, you wrote it like a script? I guess that makes sense, since it's drawn XD
Given I have to work around in Photoshop to apply all the coloring and shading, it generally takes me 2-2.5 hours to finish a page (although it varies based on panel number and what’s in it). It’s a long but rewarding process. I write every scene out usually about a month or so in advance (it varies based on my work load otherwise). Writing down the whole thing, in both acts, would take me damn near forever so I write and edit it while I go. (Although of course I do have the entire plot sorted out in my head anyway).
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Post by prophet on Nov 2, 2017 1:05:28 GMT -5
Given I have to work around in Photoshop to apply all the coloring and shading, it generally takes me 2-2.5 hours to finish a page (although it varies based on panel number and what’s in it). It’s a long but rewarding process. I write every scene out usually about a month or so in advance (it varies based on my work load otherwise). Writing down the whole thing, in both acts, would take me damn near forever so I write and edit it while I go. (Although of course I do have the entire plot sorted out in my head anyway). 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Wow, that's dedication to your craft! Ok, that sounds like a pretty good process. I write as I go too, with a general idea of how long it'll be and where the story's going
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 5:24:14 GMT -5
Given I have to work around in Photoshop to apply all the coloring and shading, it generally takes me 2-2.5 hours to finish a page (although it varies based on panel number and what’s in it). It’s a long but rewarding process. I write every scene out usually about a month or so in advance (it varies based on my work load otherwise). Writing down the whole thing, in both acts, would take me damn near forever so I write and edit it while I go. (Although of course I do have the entire plot sorted out in my head anyway). 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Wow, that's dedication to your craft! Ok, that sounds like a pretty good process. I write as I go too, with a general idea of how long it'll be and where the story's going
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codingThe reason why I manage to keep up with all of it is that Ensemble is so long that it would take almost forever to get through if I didn’t update it every Sunday with more pages. I’ve estimated the whole thing to be incredibly massive and take quite a while based on the rate I’m going at and my estimated number of pages, so of course I make it routine to update it with several pages every Sunday so it goes at a good pace. The idea of Ensemble and all its subplots and scenes is very fine-tuned in my head to the point that writing it is more like just placing the words in my head onto a document than actually writing it.
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Post by prophet on Nov 2, 2017 13:14:39 GMT -5
The reason why I manage to keep up with all of it is that Ensemble is so long that it would take almost forever to get through if I didn’t update it every Sunday with more pages. I’ve estimated the whole thing to be incredibly massive and take quite a while based on the rate I’m going at and my estimated number of pages, so of course I make it routine to update it with several pages every Sunday so it goes at a good pace. The idea of Ensemble and all its subplots and scenes is very fine-tuned in my head to the point that writing it is more like just placing the words in my head onto a document than actually writing it. 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Right, I can only imagine the length of time it would take, considering how long you told me it was XD That's pretty detailed! I can't say that I get like that; it's more like a movie playing in my head and I have to figure out how to convey it in words (since I can't draw worth a crap smh).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 14:32:04 GMT -5
The reason why I manage to keep up with all of it is that Ensemble is so long that it would take almost forever to get through if I didn’t update it every Sunday with more pages. I’ve estimated the whole thing to be incredibly massive and take quite a while based on the rate I’m going at and my estimated number of pages, so of course I make it routine to update it with several pages every Sunday so it goes at a good pace. The idea of Ensemble and all its subplots and scenes is very fine-tuned in my head to the point that writing it is more like just placing the words in my head onto a document than actually writing it. 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Right, I can only imagine the length of time it would take, considering how long you told me it was XD That's pretty detailed! I can't say that I get like that; it's more like a movie playing in my head and I have to figure out how to convey it in words (since I can't draw worth a crap smh).
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codingI do the exact same thing- it’s one of the reasons why Ensemble became a comic despite its length: I just can visualize it too well to simply write it. (The downside to this is that it takes, of course, much more time, and drawing things can be harder than it looks (snakes are a god example of that phenomenon, I find them very hard to draw)
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Post by prophet on Nov 2, 2017 14:37:12 GMT -5
I do the exact same thing- it’s one of the reasons why Ensemble became a comic despite its length: I just can visualize it too well to simply write it. (The downside to this is that it takes, of course, much more time, and drawing things can be harder than it looks (snakes are a god example of that phenomenon, I find them very hard to draw) 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Really? Yeah, a lot more complicated and a lot more work XD I think your drawing style is really good, so I'd say it's definitely worth the effort ;3 Snakes seem so simple, but they're so... snaky XD But scales, eyes, head? Pretty difficult.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 16:53:47 GMT -5
I do the exact same thing- it’s one of the reasons why Ensemble became a comic despite its length: I just can visualize it too well to simply write it. (The downside to this is that it takes, of course, much more time, and drawing things can be harder than it looks (snakes are a god example of that phenomenon, I find them very hard to draw) 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Really? Yeah, a lot more complicated and a lot more work XD I think your drawing style is really good, so I'd say it's definitely worth the effort ;3 Snakes seem so simple, but they're so... snaky XD But scales, eyes, head? Pretty difficult.
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codingSnakes are HARD like their heads, their bodies... god people think it’s easy but no it really isn’t it’s not segmented like cats are so you have to do it over and over to make it look good and mAN
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Post by prophet on Nov 2, 2017 19:27:14 GMT -5
Snakes are HARD like their heads, their bodies... god people think it’s easy but no it really isn’t it’s not segmented like cats are so you have to do it over and over to make it look good and mAN 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Snakes, the Hardest Thing to Draw since "the other eye" XD It's just some simple lines, but do they want to cooperate? No
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 20:02:08 GMT -5
Snakes are HARD like their heads, their bodies... god people think it’s easy but no it really isn’t it’s not segmented like cats are so you have to do it over and over to make it look good and mAN 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Snakes, the Hardest Thing to Draw since "the other eye" XD It's just some simple lines, but do they want to cooperate? No
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codingTheir eye-mouth ratio is also an issue why did I think snakes would be a good metaphor in Ensemble when I can’t even draw them right smh
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Post by prophet on Nov 3, 2017 19:29:41 GMT -5
Their eye-mouth ratio is also an issue why did I think snakes would be a good metaphor in Ensemble when I can’t even draw them right smh 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } Are the eyes too big? Is the mouth too big? Who knows, not me, lmao Because artists like to torture themselves to the deepest extent XD
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 21:26:26 GMT -5
Their eye-mouth ratio is also an issue why did I think snakes would be a good metaphor in Ensemble when I can’t even draw them right smh 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } Are the eyes too big? Is the mouth too big? Who knows, not me, lmao Because artists like to torture themselves to the deepest extent XD
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codingI swear Ensemble as a whole is like some strange version of Audrey II from Little Shop of Horrors- an innocent pet project that turns into a nightmare the more attention and care I put into it. Now that I’m thinking of it, the comparisons are awfully similar...
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Post by prophet on Nov 5, 2017 0:24:38 GMT -5
I swear Ensemble as a whole is like some strange version of Audrey II from Little Shop of Horrors- an innocent pet project that turns into a nightmare the more attention and care I put into it. Now that I’m thinking of it, the comparisons are awfully similar... 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Oml, lol. (Never watched it, but I understand what you're saying.) "What began as a fun rendition of opera soon made the cast's lives even more miserable, when we didn't think it was possible."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 11:58:58 GMT -5
I swear Ensemble as a whole is like some strange version of Audrey II from Little Shop of Horrors- an innocent pet project that turns into a nightmare the more attention and care I put into it. Now that I’m thinking of it, the comparisons are awfully similar... 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Oml, lol. (Never watched it, but I understand what you're saying.) "What began as a fun rendition of opera soon made the cast's lives even more miserable, when we didn't think it was possible."
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codingI’m glad Ensemble isn’t a stage production, because some of the stuff that I have the characters do...man, it would be impossible to stage lmao
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Post by prophet on Nov 5, 2017 15:11:29 GMT -5
I’m glad Ensemble isn’t a stage production, because some of the stuff that I have the characters do...man, it would be impossible to stage lmao 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Yeah, I don't think it would ever be able to be staged XD Maybe animation. It'd probably be pretty cool as an animation; a million times better than ABC lmao
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 15:36:21 GMT -5
I’m glad Ensemble isn’t a stage production, because some of the stuff that I have the characters do...man, it would be impossible to stage lmao 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Yeah, I don't think it would ever be able to be staged XD Maybe animation. It'd probably be pretty cool as an animation; a million times better than ABC lmao
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codingHonestly I’d love to do something like it if I could animate, although I’d probably do so after I finish the comic proper everything is better than the ABC animated magic flute. Even the BBC animated magic flute but that one kinda sucks too
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Post by prophet on Nov 5, 2017 15:47:27 GMT -5
Honestly I’d love to do something like it if I could animate, although I’d probably do so after I finish the comic proper everything is better than the ABC animated magic flute. Even the BBC animated magic flute but that one kinda sucks too 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Yeah, that would be a really cool thing to do, but probably tons of work XD Do you know how to do animation? Oml, BBC did one too? I'm not surprised.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 16:03:48 GMT -5
Honestly I’d love to do something like it if I could animate, although I’d probably do so after I finish the comic proper everything is better than the ABC animated magic flute. Even the BBC animated magic flute but that one kinda sucks too 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Yeah, that would be a really cool thing to do, but probably tons of work XD Do you know how to do animation? Oml, BBC did one too? I'm not surprised.
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codingNo, although I’m a buff at all Animation trivia. I know quite a bit on the subject The BBC’s one is...interesting. it looks and sounds like one of the YouTube Poops from the late 2000’s, it cuts out 3/4 of everything, and has some weird psychedelic animation. (And racism, even though it was also made in the 90’s, so yeah there’s some YIKES there). Also Papageno runs around shirtless so there’s that
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Post by prophet on Nov 5, 2017 17:23:39 GMT -5
No, although I’m a buff at all Animation trivia. I know quite a bit on the subject The BBC’s one is...interesting. it looks and sounds like one of the YouTube Poops from the late 2000’s, it cuts out 3/4 of everything, and has some weird psychedelic animation. (And racism, even though it was also made in the 90’s, so yeah there’s some YIKES there). Also Papageno runs around shirtless so there’s that 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Really? That's interesting XD How do you know so much? Did you just research it, or...? Whaaat?! Racism? Oml. And why. Just why. Ugh, sounds awful
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 18:12:32 GMT -5
No, although I’m a buff at all Animation trivia. I know quite a bit on the subject The BBC’s one is...interesting. it looks and sounds like one of the YouTube Poops from the late 2000’s, it cuts out 3/4 of everything, and has some weird psychedelic animation. (And racism, even though it was also made in the 90’s, so yeah there’s some YIKES there). Also Papageno runs around shirtless so there’s that 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Really? That's interesting XD How do you know so much? Did you just research it, or...? Whaaat?! Racism? Oml. And why. Just why. Ugh, sounds awful
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codingI research heavily into anything I’m into (thus explaining why I know so much about Mozart and his operas). Yeah, there’s a few character designs that are... unfortunate. It’s not even so awful as to just really weird and uncomfortable. (I don’t like it because it cuts out a lot of the story, yet it keeps in a good bit of the racism and sexism.) I mean at least they didn’t make Sarastro Pamina’s father in that one, because honestly I’m so sick of that being the case by this point and it’s just so contrived and really just damages both the Queen and Sarastro’s characters
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Post by prophet on Nov 5, 2017 20:08:25 GMT -5
I research heavily into anything I’m into (thus explaining why I know so much about Mozart and his operas). Yeah, there’s a few character designs that are... unfortunate. It’s not even so awful as to just really weird and uncomfortable. (I don’t like it because it cuts out a lot of the story, yet it keeps in a good bit of the racism and sexism.) I mean at least they didn’t make Sarastro Pamina’s father in that one, because honestly I’m so sick of that being the case by this point and it’s just so contrived and really just damages both the Queen and Sarastro’s characters 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Ahh, ok. I used to do that all the time, not so much anymore. Oh no. Cutting out the story is a no-no, why don't they understand that? smh. And yet they keep in the sexist and racist stuff. Wow. I forgot that was a thing, lmao. It makes no sense as to why Sarastro would want to hurt his own daughter (except that she's a woman, oml) in order to get back at the Queen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 20:22:38 GMT -5
I research heavily into anything I’m into (thus explaining why I know so much about Mozart and his operas). Yeah, there’s a few character designs that are... unfortunate. It’s not even so awful as to just really weird and uncomfortable. (I don’t like it because it cuts out a lot of the story, yet it keeps in a good bit of the racism and sexism.) I mean at least they didn’t make Sarastro Pamina’s father in that one, because honestly I’m so sick of that being the case by this point and it’s just so contrived and really just damages both the Queen and Sarastro’s characters 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Ahh, ok. I used to do that all the time, not so much anymore. Oh no. Cutting out the story is a no-no, why don't they understand that? smh. And yet they keep in the sexist and racist stuff. Wow. I forgot that was a thing, lmao. It makes no sense as to why Sarastro would want to hurt his own daughter (except that she's a woman, oml) in order to get back at the Queen.
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codingYeah it makes no sense as to why they cut what they did. Apparently scenes with suicide or a bit more plot to make it make somewhat more sense are bad but sexism isn’t. I’m as clueless as you are on this I mean, Sarastro isn’t outright killing Pamina or anything, but still he makes things quite a bit harder for her in many ways. (it’s a long story on what exactly his intent is with having her around and how he makes things harder for her, especially in Ensemble because Sarastro is at the heart of most spoilers in the story, but there’s a reason for it all be it illogical or not)
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Post by prophet on Nov 5, 2017 20:36:29 GMT -5
Yeah it makes no sense as to why they cut what they did. Apparently scenes with suicide or a bit more plot to make it make somewhat more sense are bad but sexism isn’t. I’m as clueless as you are on this I mean, Sarastro isn’t outright killing Pamina or anything, but still he makes things quite a bit harder for her in many ways. (it’s a long story on what exactly his intent is with having her around and how he makes things harder for her, especially in Ensemble because Sarastro is at the heart of most spoilers in the story, but there’s a reason for it all be it illogical or not) 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Some of that would make sense, sure, but basically they're cutting out what they don't like, smh Oh, ok. As long as it makes sense, which I know it will if it's you, and not like ABC or BBC
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 20:46:59 GMT -5
Yeah it makes no sense as to why they cut what they did. Apparently scenes with suicide or a bit more plot to make it make somewhat more sense are bad but sexism isn’t. I’m as clueless as you are on this I mean, Sarastro isn’t outright killing Pamina or anything, but still he makes things quite a bit harder for her in many ways. (it’s a long story on what exactly his intent is with having her around and how he makes things harder for her, especially in Ensemble because Sarastro is at the heart of most spoilers in the story, but there’s a reason for it all be it illogical or not) 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Some of that would make sense, sure, but basically they're cutting out what they don't like, smh Oh, ok. As long as it makes sense, which I know it will if it's you, and not like ABC or BBC
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codingThank God mine isn’t like any animated versions lmao Honestly in mine the whole thing serves as another point in the Sarastro-Queen conflict and their parallels to one another more than anything
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Post by prophet on Nov 5, 2017 21:21:39 GMT -5
Thank God mine isn’t like any animated versions lmao Honestly in mine the whole thing serves as another point in the Sarastro-Queen conflict and their parallels to one another more than anything 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Yes, thankfully XD Unlike them, i's actually good, lmao Ah, ok. So there's parallels between them, parallels between Tamino and Pamina, and Leporello and the Don.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 21:28:29 GMT -5
Thank God mine isn’t like any animated versions lmao Honestly in mine the whole thing serves as another point in the Sarastro-Queen conflict and their parallels to one another more than anything 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Yes, thankfully XD Unlike them, i's actually good, lmao Ah, ok. So there's parallels between them, parallels between Tamino and Pamina, and Leporello and the Don.
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codingThere’s a lot of parallels between everyone throughout the whole comic- it adds to the main concept of balance. Sarastro and the Queen are a lot more like each other than they’d ever want to admit
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Post by prophet on Nov 5, 2017 21:55:04 GMT -5
There’s a lot of parallels between everyone throughout the whole comic- it adds to the main concept of balance. Sarastro and the Queen are a lot more like each other than they’d ever want to admit 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Wow, nice~ That's pretty cool. Did you find that in the original opera or did you just come up with that idea?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 22:15:59 GMT -5
There’s a lot of parallels between everyone throughout the whole comic- it adds to the main concept of balance. Sarastro and the Queen are a lot more like each other than they’d ever want to admit 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Wow, nice~ That's pretty cool. Did you find that in the original opera or did you just come up with that idea?
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codingI mean there’s parallels in the original too, such as the Queen being the highest voice in the show while Sarastro is the lowest, but in Ensemble it’s far more explicit how intertwined the two of them are despite them being mortal enemies
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Post by prophet on Nov 5, 2017 22:49:43 GMT -5
I mean there’s parallels in the original too, such as the Queen being the highest voice in the show while Sarastro is the lowest, but in Ensemble it’s far more explicit how intertwined the two of them are despite them being mortal enemies 東 京 喰 種 { c h a t } @ - Ah, ok. I know I said it before, but I love your attention to detail and how deeply you go with everything. I think it's really cool to have parallels between all the characters like that, not just the main ones.
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