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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Feb 17, 2017 20:18:44 GMT -5
During Bramblestar's leader ceremony in The Ultimate Guide, I was really pretty annoyed that Hollyleaf didn't give him one of his lives. Like he gets these lives from cats he never knew, who were mostly relevant to Firestar, but not from the cat he had raised as his child????
Idk. This just really bothered the heck out of me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 20:52:35 GMT -5
IKR. Maybe Hollyleaf was still holding a grudge about Bramble and Squirrel but I doubt it.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 17, 2017 20:54:55 GMT -5
Yeah, it was kind of annoying. She wasn't even mentioned. Apparently she didn't give him a life for "obvious reasons".
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 17, 2017 20:59:25 GMT -5
IKR. SORRELTAIL GAVE HIM A LIFE BUT NOT HOLLYLEAF. Maybe Hollyleaf was still holding a grudge about Bramble and Squirrel but I doubt it. She wasn't holding a grudge anymore by then and Hollyleaf never held one against Bramblestar anyway, not even when the truth came out. And Sorreltail never gave Bramblestar a life. The cats who gave him his lives were: Firestar Goldenflower Bluestar Mousefur Lionheart Ferncloud Cinderpelt Feathertail Ravenpaw
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 21:02:49 GMT -5
IKR. SORRELTAIL GAVE HIM A LIFE BUT NOT HOLLYLEAF. Maybe Hollyleaf was still holding a grudge about Bramble and Squirrel but I doubt it. She wasn't holding a grudge anymore by then and Hollyleaf never held one against Bramblestar anyway, not even when the truth came out. And Sorreltail never gave Bramblestar a life. The cats who gave him his lives were: Firestar Goldenflower Bluestar Mousefur Lionheart Ferncloud Cinderpelt Feathertail Ravenpaw Oh I thought she did whoops
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 21:03:42 GMT -5
Also its rlly annoying to see Ravenpaw give Brambleclaw a life when hes like met Ravenpaw 4 times in his life. Erins really messed up there.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 17, 2017 21:18:27 GMT -5
Also its rlly annoying to see Ravenpaw give Brambleclaw a life when hes like met Ravenpaw 4 times in his life. Erins really messed up there. Well, I think it was because Ravenpaw still technically played a significant role in his life, especially considering that he was the one who told Bramblestar about the sun-drown place in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 22:00:57 GMT -5
well....if i were to say which cats could give him lives....
Firestar Goldenflower Bluestar Mousefur Hollyleaf Ferncloud Cinderpelt Feathertail Ravenpaw
i literally would just replace lionheart with hollyleaf. i dont even remember if lionheart even was in his life that much....so why him and not hollyleaf?
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Feb 17, 2017 22:09:52 GMT -5
Bramblestar didn't even know Lionheart. He was long dead before he and Tawnypelt were born. Goldenflower was still nursing Swiftpaw and Lynxkit when Lionheart was killed.
So why he got priority over Hollyleaf really irks me. Especially since Bramblestar spent a good bit of his SE mourning over her. Like really? He loved Hollyleaf as his daughter, even after he knew she wasn't his. And they were fairly close when they both thought they were related.
So it really just bothers me. Hollyleaf could've given him a life of Forgiveness or Understanding, because it would have been so significant. But no.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 17, 2017 22:13:01 GMT -5
well....if i were to say which cats could give him lives.... Firestar Goldenflower Bluestar Mousefur Hollyleaf Ferncloud Cinderpelt Feathertail Ravenpaw i literally would just replace lionheart with hollyleaf. i dont even remember if lionheart even was in his life that much....so why him and not hollyleaf? Lionheart died way before Bramblestar was even born, but maybe it was because Lionheart is his uncle? That's really the only explanation I can think of other than the Erins just picked a random cat. Not all cats who give nine lives have to be significant though, but still...
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Feb 17, 2017 22:15:36 GMT -5
well....if i were to say which cats could give him lives.... Firestar Goldenflower Bluestar Mousefur Hollyleaf Ferncloud Cinderpelt Feathertail Ravenpaw i literally would just replace lionheart with hollyleaf. i dont even remember if lionheart even was in his life that much....so why him and not hollyleaf? Lionheart died way before Bramblestar was even born, but maybe it was because Lionheart is his uncle? That's really the only explanation I can think of other than the Erins just picked a random cat. Not all cats who give nine lives have to be significant though, but still... Lol since when do the Erins actually pay attention to that though? Knowing them, they probably completely forgot tbh. Idk. It just bothers me a lot. Every cat who has had their nine lives ceremony each had cats who meant something to them during their life. So why not Hollyleaf? It would have been great to see her in StarCla.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 17, 2017 22:32:04 GMT -5
Lionheart died way before Bramblestar was even born, but maybe it was because Lionheart is his uncle? That's really the only explanation I can think of other than the Erins just picked a random cat. Not all cats who give nine lives have to be significant though, but still... Lol since when do the Erins actually pay attention to that though? Knowing them, they probably completely forgot tbh. Idk. It just bothers me a lot. Every cat who has had their nine lives ceremony each had cats who meant something to them during their life. So why not Hollyleaf? It would have been great to see her in StarCla. Not all of them. In fact, the only nine lives ceremonies where the soon-to-be leaders personally knew all the cats who gave them their lives were Firestar's, Bluestar's, Mistystar's, and I guess Windstar's as well. But yeah, I see what you mean. Even Ashfur or Sorreltail would've made more sense than Lionheart.
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Post by Pyropelt on Feb 18, 2017 18:25:34 GMT -5
I don't get why Mousefur, Ravenpaw, and Lionheart gave him lives. I get that Lionheart was his uncle, but Brambleclaw didn't really know him. It irked me that Mousefur and Ravenpaw gave him a life and not Hollyleaf. Especially since she sacrificed herself in the battle with the Dark Forest.
Hopefully Hollyleaf will come to Bramblestar in a dream, since he was her foster father. He loved her like his own biological kit.
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Post by Kibui on Feb 18, 2017 18:56:46 GMT -5
I wished that both or either Hollyleaf or Ashfur had given him a life - Ashfur mainly 'cause we'd finally have a chance of possibly seeing a small glimpse of what he's like in StarClan or how his current thoughts are (plus I'd have loved to see an interaction between Bramblestar and Ashfur) and Hollyleaf, well, it's made pretty clear that Bramblestar truly loved her as a daughter so why shouldn't she give him a life? (other than that "obvious reason" that funnily enough no one seems to know what it's supposed to be)
Other leader ceremonies show that it's actually pretty rare for a leader to get their nine lives solely from cats s/he knew but come on Bramblestar has more than nine options yet still a cat like Lionheart - that died before he was even born - gives him one? Swiftpaw or even Brindleface would make more sense (the latter if not by much)
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Post by уυησ gαѕαι on Feb 19, 2017 9:14:49 GMT -5
I would of done this:
Firestar Goldenflower Bluestar Mousefur Flametail Ferncloud Ashfur Feathertail Hollyleaf
Also, the Cinderpelt life is just... her spirit is in Cinderheart. They are eachother. If Cinderpelt gives a life, Cinderheart died and became alive again in AVOS.
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Post by Owlmoon on Feb 19, 2017 16:12:26 GMT -5
Also its rlly annoying to see Ravenpaw give Brambleclaw a life when hes like met Ravenpaw 4 times in his life. Erins really messed up there. Shoulda been Holly. Erins just put him in there, so that we could see how he was in StarClan after his novella. That was it.
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