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Post by mintedstar/fur on Feb 16, 2017 1:18:22 GMT -5
Yay!
(And the answers to your more specific questions are: Yes, I would include them (and do). My opinion on hypothetical LGBTQ+ Warrior cats are that they should stop being hypothetical. I also enjoy hearing others opinions on who would work well with each other.)
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Post by John 3:16 on Feb 16, 2017 4:27:13 GMT -5
beware, my opinion may be controversial.
gay/lesbian and possibly bi cats? definitely. it occurs in species other than humans, which in my book it's absolutely fine.
but trans? non-binary? all that gender stuff? i'm iffy on that. humans are complicated beings, with advanced minds, which is why all that happens. but does it occur in cats? or nature in general outside of the human race? we have no way of knowing, and honestly i doubt it.
so my opinion is, if it occurs outside the human race, especially in cats, it's fine.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 6:13:20 GMT -5
I would say nay. I would want to keep it close to the books and keep it realistic as well. In the wild, you don't have cats like that, so I'm not going to put them in books. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 20:23:08 GMT -5
I totally would! Add a few gay/bi cats in because diversity is good and nice and LGBT+ rights are awesome
Also I'm gay so I can vent my anger with warrior cats JK JK
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Post by cricket🍂 on Mar 4, 2017 18:58:47 GMT -5
the thing about keeping it realistic and leaving.out more "advanced" concepts of gender identity and sexuality
you can say the same thing about laws, religion, hierarchal social ranks (named leader, deputy, warriors; there has been observed hierarchal social structures in cat groups & interactions), etc with warrior cats.it is called fantasy for a reason, because humans have not observed cats doing or having a concept of these kinds of things.
so... i dont know. with the amount of "intelligence" these cats display in the warriors books i cant imagine they wouldnt also be able.to think of something outside the gender binary of she-cats and tomcats
meh. ive had a couple nonbinary cat characters .
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Post by 𝘨𝘰𝘭𝘥𝘦𝘯 𝘴𝘶𝘯 on Mar 6, 2017 14:28:24 GMT -5
I mean, sexualities that differ from heterosexuality have been observed in a lot of species that aren't our own. it even has an important role to play in the survival of said species. for that reason, I don't see why having LGBT warrior cats is really that big a deal also I think bringing in more LGBT characters in children's and middle-grade literature in general is really important I'm hesitant to use the fantasy genre as a justification for any of this, but I can get behind the point that these cats are incredibly intelligent. complex concepts such as gender could also make sense in warrior cats. that being said, they are still cats. like pete said, we have no way of knowing if gender occurs outside of human societies. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing it or even writing it (if I still wrote things in the warriors universe) but I do think that's a valid point. |
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Post by cricket🍂 on Mar 26, 2017 19:43:41 GMT -5
it is just kind of all depending on if the erin hunters would feel like adding that into the warrior cats universe.
i just feel like systems for laws, religion, etc could go along with other kinds of complex, creative concepts for one's identity and sexuality. but it might be something that really isn't commonly brought up as an idea.
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Post by Mikan on Mar 27, 2017 4:30:48 GMT -5
Yeah do it, attack it, make it happen! It's just a natural phenomenon actually occurring among higher developed animals like mammals and birds. So they already included a concept like religion and a simple law system (which you actually can choose to a certain degree since ShadowCLan chose Atheism at one point of time, but you can't really choose your sexuality, its not about reason like those social topics) as in tribal communities which we may not have seen yet, but only could assume or not. Of course integrating LGBT+ as a real thing should still somehow relate to a naturally given percentage, which means in actual numbers 1 or 2 cats per clan.
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Post by photosynthesis on Apr 6, 2017 3:45:35 GMT -5
- - - Yes, definitely.
I'm saying this because in most cases, cats don't keep one mate anyway, so all of the comments about keeping the relationships straight because that's what cats do, are sort of thrown out the window as most cats will have multiple mates. That said, there have been cases of two same gender cats trying to mate- which is probably due to dominance, not homosexuality, but the books are humanized cats so to speak, so why not make it multi sexuality?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 7:50:01 GMT -5
I mean, probably. For cat's survival, it doesn't make sense, but with people's situations in the real world, it does. So it depends on which way you float.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 6:29:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd definitely add some in.
Like I wouldn't make EVERY character LGBT+/ some of the orientations (like trans for example, or demisexual) are a little hard to show with cats. But having a nice mix of straight characters and other characters would make for a more inclusive series I think.
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Post by Random on Apr 19, 2017 22:53:40 GMT -5
Why should I care about someone else's fellings, if somebody is homosexual why should I care. If somebody wants to change genders or make up fake genders let them they don't care about what you care about so you should not care about what they care about.
To all Christians that think God hates gays. Read the Bible, most Christians have never read the Bible. Most just belive what their parents tell them.
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Post by fossilfueds on Apr 22, 2017 11:50:27 GMT -5
These are cats that understand the intricate nuances of medicine and have established a complex social hierarchy so I'm not about to say they can't be of varying identities because it isn't realistic myself, but to each their own.
I'm more than willing to include LGBT+ characters in warriors fanworks.
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Post by smilii on Apr 22, 2017 15:51:22 GMT -5
Yes, I'd add gay/bi/whateversexual characters to my fics partially because diversity but mostly because I crave the gay ships, they are an addictive drug
I'd probably also have non-cis characters (agender etc.) but I wouldn't get too far into it bc one of the great things about Warriors is that this doesn't exist:
this is actually a thing apparently
Honestly I'd be more worried about writing good characters. If a character's whole personality is 'gay', they're not a good character, even for a background character. Sure, they could be overly flamboyant for comedic effect but tbh I'd find it funnier if it turned out they were straight!
And idc what people's personal views are. It doesn't affect me in any way, shape or form if you disagree with certain genders/sexualities (heck I disagree with a lot of the 'Tumblr genders' myself), as long as you treat everyone with respect and kindness then you're good in my books.
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Post by smilii on Apr 22, 2017 15:58:07 GMT -5
oh and guys my new gender is Felisgender, and my pronouns are meow/purr.
I know this isn't really the place for it, but a lot of these genders seem to simply be emotions with 'gender' slapped on the end. Like Glassgender- feeling as if your gender identity is fragile. No, that just means you're doubting yourself. And that's okay. No labels required hun.
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Post by Random on Apr 22, 2017 17:46:09 GMT -5
Sure and I split in two to reproduce.
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Post by Shrike on Apr 22, 2017 23:48:05 GMT -5
gay cats are good
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Post by Moonclaw on Jun 6, 2017 8:07:36 GMT -5
Totally! I would add a few different sexualities, ex. bi, homo etc. However, not things like trans. etc, since that isn't a sexual orientation.
Plus, I ship Tallstar and Jake and Ravenpaw and Barley.
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Post by Moonclaw on Jun 6, 2017 8:10:31 GMT -5
Split into two?
I like it. Binary fission in cats.
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Post by Cinderleaf on Jun 7, 2017 13:57:56 GMT -5
No, I wouldn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 9:24:45 GMT -5
Okay, I still believe that gay cats can and should be in Warriors, and trans and nonbinary cats too, because HEY! this series is about fictional cats! And we need to show people that being gay, trans, bi, nonbinary, or anything else is okay! AND ANYWAY WARRIORS ISN'T REALISTIC ANYWAY WHO CARES ANYMORE
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Post by neb on Jun 10, 2017 12:39:59 GMT -5
Totally! I would add a few different sexualities, ex. bi, homo etc. However, not things like trans. etc, since that isn't a sexual orientation. Plus, I ship Tallstar and Jake and Ravenpaw and Barley. this^^ |
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Post by smilii on Jun 10, 2017 15:08:37 GMT -5
i mean i'm not gonna stop anyone from writing a fic where a cat questions their gender identity or sexuality bc if done well, that sounds like an awesome coming-of-age story about accepting yourself
i wouldn't like it if cats went through gender reassignment surgery though, because even if they're feeling that anthropomorphic-animal-gender-dysphoria no vet would actually do that and no medicine cat would even try. even though this series is unrealistic compared to the real world, it's similar, and shares a lot of the rules. common sense is good.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 19:57:59 GMT -5
☁︎ out of character ☁︎ yay !
☁︎ roleplay ☁︎ |
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Post by wadevvilson on Jul 4, 2017 2:47:55 GMT -5
These are cats that are somehow dexterous enough to make things such as leg splints. Also they can talk to their dead relatives, and overall have magical powers. I don't think that cats of genders outside the binary would be too ridiculous if you wanted to include that in a story. And animals of orientations other than purely straight have been documented in real life, so there's that as well.
But yeah, I already write LGBT+ cats into my personal works.
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