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Post by Mistybreeze on Aug 2, 2016 21:51:18 GMT -5
This one always baffled me. Goosefeather is described as old and near elder age in the beginning of Bluestar's Prophecy. As of Goosefeather's Curse, we know that he and Moonflower are from the same litter. What doesn't add up is that Moonflower is never described as old or a senior warrior. She seemed like she was fairly young. Since she is Goosefeather's littermate, shouldn't she be an elder or at least mentioned to be old to be having her first litter?
And what about Stormtail? He is a lot older than both of them. Shouldn't he be described as old as well? And Poppydawn is older than them. She doesn't retire until well into Bluestar's Prophecy. Addarfang, Swiftbreeze, and Smallear are all a lot older than him as well. None of them are ever called old in the beginning of Bluestar's Prophecy.
This is my theory. None of those cats were described as old because they were not old. Goosefeather's powers cause him a lot of stress. I think he aged prematurely. He isn't actually old, but he appears that way because of stress. That would mean the timeskip between Goosefeather's Curse and Bluestar's Prophecy is only a few years. That would explain why Swiftbreeze, Moonflower, and Poppydawn are all having their first litters at that time. They are between young and senior warriors and that is when most cats (at least she-cats) have their kits.
The way this theory might crumble is Sunstar. He was only a kit when Goosefeather's Curse ended. But we were shown that he was an extraordinary kit. That means he would have been an extraordinary apprentice and then an extraordinary warrior. That's why he became deputy at such a young age. He was a special cat. Of course, it could have also gone the prophecy root where StarClan sends a sign. Or even, Goosefeather claims he had a sign and he helps fulfill Sunstar's destiny.
Thoughts?
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Post by Ligerfrost on Aug 2, 2016 22:50:29 GMT -5
I think Goosefeather aged prematurely but just because Moonflower wasn't mentioned to look old doesn't mean she wasn't old.
Tigerstar was older than Whitestorm, but Whitestorm was said repeatedly in The Darkest Hour to be elderly or to look ready for the elders den. Yet Tigerstar is never once mentioned to be old he is mentioned to be fit and formidable.
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Post by ❄️Raccoonstep❄️ on Aug 3, 2016 11:38:57 GMT -5
Maybe Moon was from a later litter?
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 3, 2016 11:39:53 GMT -5
The timeline inconsistencies are the worst!
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#a3c5e6
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Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 3, 2016 11:41:39 GMT -5
Maybe Moon was from a later litter? She isn't. It's been stated many times that Moonflower was from the same litter and this is even shown in GC. Goosefeather was just apprenticed and got his full name early.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Aug 3, 2016 12:11:26 GMT -5
I think Goosefeather aged prematurely but just because Moonflower wasn't mentioned to look old doesn't mean she wasn't old. Tigerstar was older than Whitestorm, but Whitestorm was said repeatedly in The Darkest Hour to be elderly or to look ready for the elders den. Yet Tigerstar is never once mentioned to be old he is mentioned to be fit and formidable. While you do have a point, I found it kind of odd that three she-cats who were supposed to be close to elder age all having their first litter at the same time. And the oldest one had another litter later on too. They could actually be that old, but all of them would be very old to be having their first kits. They always make a big deal out of an old queen. It was done with Speckletail, Squirrelflight, Brightflower, and Fernshade. All of them were said to be old to be having a litter of kits. And if they really are that old, wouldn't that have been mentioned? Three old she-cats having kits would a big deal.
There are other things supporting my theory. The elders are incorrect as well. Larksong and Mumblefoot were warriors when Goosefeather was a kit. By that logic, they should be either dead or mentioned to be very old. They weren't and it was during Whitestorm's apprenticeship that Mumblefoot died of old age. Larksong held on even longer. There is also the fact that none of the apprentices in GC are elders. I could understand if a few of them continued on, but all of them? Every apprentice who appeared in both books were still warriors at the start of BP.
Oh, and I forgot about Windflight. He was a warrior at the start of GC, he doesn't retire until well into BP. (Right before Bluestar had kits correct?) He should have been absolutely ancient by the time of BP. But he wasn't.
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Post by McFlurry on Aug 3, 2016 21:08:55 GMT -5
i gave up on trying to comprehend the timeline after the untimely death of heavysteap, the tragic death of heavystep and the terribly sad death of heavystep
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Post by nem on Aug 3, 2016 21:46:06 GMT -5
There was this ShadowClan cat who was an apprentice before Tigerheart was born.
In Battles of the Clans, Tigerheart is shown teaching that apprentice a battle move.
Poor Owlpaw.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 21:53:44 GMT -5
Apparently Maoleshade's vengeance wasn't that far in the past.
Look up Nettlebreeze.
Nettle breeze ties everything together.
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Post by Jaysnow on Aug 3, 2016 22:33:10 GMT -5
Apparently Maoleshade's vengeance wasn't that far in the past. Look up Nettlebreeze. Nettle breeze ties everything together. It wasn't, but it should have been.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 22:52:13 GMT -5
Apparently Maoleshade's vengeance wasn't that far in the past. Look up Nettlebreeze. Nettle breeze ties everything together. It wasn't, but it should have been. Look up Nettlebreeze. She's Nettlepaw in Mapleshade's vengeance but was an elder in goosefeather's curse.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 22:52:29 GMT -5
Or he. Apparently it's a boy.
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Post by Jaysnow on Aug 3, 2016 22:53:03 GMT -5
It wasn't, but it should have been. Look up Nettlebreeze. She's Nettlepaw in Mapleshade's vengeance but was an elder in goosefeather's curse. I already know this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 22:56:57 GMT -5
Look up Nettlebreeze. She's Nettlepaw in Mapleshade's vengeance but was an elder in goosefeather's curse. I already know this. Okay then....
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Post by Jaysnow on Aug 3, 2016 22:59:15 GMT -5
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Post by Bluebell on Aug 4, 2016 8:45:18 GMT -5
The ghosts wanted to be one with the Goose. But he resisted and aged.
No GooseGhost.
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